Talebs in Tajikistan?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Various members from USA on different forums have testified that RTR is a stalker and is known for harassing women. And here he is pretending to be a champion of womens rights.

Whats wrong? Is the police on to you for another case of stalking or harassment? Is this why you are trying to change your image online?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

EVen if any of were true; WHICH NONE OF IT IS .Nothing there demonstrates someone who expressed any desire to coerce women into sexual intercourse; violating and ruining their lives and causing them harm.

So you can save your Gossip column about what someone alleged to have done. Both you and this Khorosani guy are dangerous to society's well being as you pose a danger to yourselves and others, particularly women; You victimize or plan on victimizing women.. The Police should be onto you though; I mean you're talking about going to a foreign country to rape women; that surely must have some criminal repercussions.

It's strange when you were a dope Smoking Atheist Rapper, you actually had morals; now as a Salafi pretending he's a pious Muslim, you have none. I'm not a champion of women's rights; Just basic human dignity.

[Almas]

It's strange when you were a dope Smoking Atheist Rapper, you actually had morals...

LOL what? Do go on...

[Almas]

are you a muslim or a non muslim?

Are you literate or illiterate?

Because you spelled "Khorasani" wrong.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I must admit, I am so glad shamlawar and scimitar at fighting again. It was so awkward when they joined their two man army of douchbaggary .

[RevolutionThroughReason]

We have people on this forum who are cheering on the possibility of women being raped after battle and your concern is forum alliances; get a set of priorities. Clearly you've been needing a "douche" for awhile.

[DaZahroJaam.]

The very fact that you always run to the subject of women and their rights to redeem yourself says the world about you, sir. Having said that, I would like to inform you that the post that I have piste above was posted in the duration of a red traffic light and that had it not been for the morbid traffic jam that I was stranded in, you would have been deprived of even that bit of attention from side.
And pardon me not for my lack of interest in pretending to be fascinated with the bull**** that the two of you have been tossing back and forth at each other in the course of the last three years. It's pretty obvious that the two of you are better off fighting for your own rights rather than worrying about others or women for that matter. The way things work in life is not according to the beliefs of two morons who join in forces at their own convenience and then go back to bashing each other's families and go back to their original state of being when they no longer see a purpose in that decision.
Beware of the man who forgets and forgives easily.

[Khorosani]

Total strawman

I asked you where is there ahadith where men can sit around and gloatfully discuss the capturing of women as their prize.

Instead you talked about the permissibility of capturing slaves in the contexts of Muhammad(saw)'s battles. Something my past posts already stressed knowledge of. The context and situation of those events were very distinct and specific. The things you're claiming as knowledge are just the brainwashings of people who see things from a distorted lense; None of these suffice in demonstrating your claims about the actual Directives pr Allowances of Islam.

the Shari'ah definition of Rape is Zina Bil Jabr, Jabr means coercion and coercion means non-consenting. So Shari'ah definition matches the Engish one. Rape is understood as rape; coercion; and this happens by intimidation, by assault, by threats by fear. All of it is coercion.

Study Islamic History before you peddle the brainwashing you were taught in your child molestation camps that you wrongly call an Islamic School.

Knights Templars were killed WHILE in Combat; You cannot capture and then coerce the Knights Templar into a sexual relationship in Islam nor can you do that to a woman. You're excuse here is irrelevant since Shamlawar's comment did not stipulate KILLING Women IN COMBAT, but capturing Russian women; not specifically stated to be involved in combat. But simply Russian women.

All you're doing now is searching for excuses for your disgusting , predatory character as well as Shamlawar's.

If you see it as gloating that is your own interpretation, the fact is if Muslims go to war at the moment they can still go out and take women as prisoners of war, a fact. Shamalwar was only stating that russian women would be taken as pow's and didn't say anything more, its or own interpretation adding a further context.

Furthermore the knight templars were killed AFTER the battle and they were the only ones that were executed by salluhdeen, around 80 of them.

And the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) executed 2 women after the conquest of mecca.

as for the person who mentioned illiteracy for spelling something different or wrong you've proven your childish and ignorance. You've shown that you don't what illiterate means because someone illiterate is someone who can't read or right AT ALL, a mistake doesn't prove that. And your childish because you can't answer a simple question.

move along.

[Khorosani]

EVen if any of were true; WHICH NONE OF IT IS .Nothing there demonstrates someone who expressed any desire to coerce women into sexual intercourse; violating and ruining their lives and causing them harm.

So you can save your Gossip column about what someone alleged to have done. Both you and this Khorosani guy are dangerous to society's well being as you pose a danger to yourselves and others, particularly women; You victimize or plan on victimizing women.. The Police should be onto you though; I mean you're talking about going to a foreign country to rape women; that surely must have some criminal repercussions.

It's strange when you were a dope Smoking Atheist Rapper, you actually had morals; now as a Salafi pretending he's a pious Muslim, you have none. I'm not a champion of women's rights; Just basic human dignity.

Look bro, I'm speaking about taking POW's not raping or having sex (sex of course is permissible there are scholars who find raping is haram point blank such as the SALAFI shiekh Muhammad Hassan). Shamalwar was simply stating the possible outcome after the mujahideen (insha'Allah) take over Tajikstan from the RUSSIANS (hence russian women) that are based there. Of course i take the opinion of Khattab (THE SALAFI Mujahid rahimhullah) forbade his soldiers to take russian women as slaves after battle, of course the amir of the mujahideen have more of a right to determine what they do with their POW's as shiekh ibn nuhaas has stated and i've mentioned the quote below,which you've totally ignored.

If you can't comprehend this simple point of mine than i have no desire of discussing this subject.

[Khorosani]

I do not believe in any Islam where women by default become slaves! I hate such an evil Islam.

In the five pillars of Islam there is no enslavement of women in war as religious obligation.

nobody said its default, and nobody said its obligatory. It is permissible as stated in the book below.

[Khorosani]

Total strawman

I asked you where is there ahadith where men can sit around and gloatfully discuss the capturing of women as their prize.

Instead you talked about the permissibility of capturing slaves in the contexts of Muhammad(saw)'s battles. Something my past posts already stressed knowledge of. The context and situation of those events were very distinct and specific. The things you're claiming as knowledge are just the brainwashings of people who see things from a distorted lense; None of these suffice in demonstrating your claims about the actual Directives pr Allowances of Islam.

the Shari'ah definition of Rape is Zina Bil Jabr, Jabr means coercion and coercion means non-consenting. So Shari'ah definition matches the Engish one. Rape is understood as rape; coercion; and this happens by intimidation, by assault, by threats by fear. All of it is coercion.

Study Islamic History before you peddle the brainwashing you were taught in your child molestation camps that you wrongly call an Islamic School.

Knights Templars were killed WHILE in Combat; You cannot capture and then coerce the Knights Templar into a sexual relationship in Islam nor can you do that to a woman. You're excuse here is irrelevant since Shamlawar's comment did not stipulate KILLING Women IN COMBAT, but capturing Russian women; not specifically stated to be involved in combat. But simply Russian women.

All you're doing now is searching for excuses for your disgusting , predatory character as well as Shamlawar's.

how can raping your own wife/right hand possess be considered zina? I'm not saying that raping your wife/right hand possess to be permissible but if done it certainly would not be zina, zina has its own hadd.

[Badlun]

In our deen when a land goes under war the kuffar of that land are turned into slaves.

Even if they are not combatants in our religion women can be taken as prisoners of war and subsequently turned into your slaves. This has been practiced by the Sahaba and throughout history.




• The ruling on women and children POWs is that they become slaves by default.
• If a Muslim kills a POW, the Amir has the right to punish him by Ta’zeer (a punishment less than the least punishment of a major sin. Usually it is less than 10 lashes)
• If a man is taken as a POW along with his wife some scholars say that the marriage contract becomes null while others say it remains. The same is said when the husband alone falls into captivity. But if a woman is taken as a POW then if she is married her marriage contract is nullified.

How cruel is this Islam that a murderer is punished by 10 lashes. Women become slaves by default and to make her slave the marriage contract becomes null and void. And as it is the practice of the prophet and sahaba so automatically it becomes obligatory.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

How cruel is this Islam that a murderer is punished by 10 lashes. Women become slaves by default and to make her slave the marriage contract becomes null and void. And as it is the practice of the prophet and sahaba so automatically it becomes obligatory.

Nabi Muhammad (saw) was Rahmatul 'Alamin; the things they disgustingly attribute to Nabi(saw) were the inventions of the 'Ummayah. Captured women were never forced into sexual relationships and when such a relationship arose it was through honor and marriage and most of all consent.

A Prophet of Allah(swt) can never do such heinous acts against the weaker of our society; even IF she joins in battle against Muslims.

The Salafi Manhaj needs to be abolished without mercy.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Nabi Muhammad (saw) was Rahmatul 'Alamin; the things they disgustingly attribute to Nabi(saw) were the inventions of the 'Ummayah. Captured women were never forced into sexual relationships and when such a relationship arose it was through honor and marriage and most of all consent.

A Prophet of Allah(swt) can never do such heinous acts against the weaker of our society; even IF she joins in battle against Muslims.

The Salafi Manhaj needs to be abolished without mercy.

Damn those saudis using the petrol dollars to send their scholars back in time 1000 years ago to write books of hadith and fiqh. Indeed what a horrible crime.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

The very fact that you always run to the subject of women and their rights to redeem yourself says the world about you, sir. Having said that, I would like to inform you that the post that I have piste above was posted in the duration of a red traffic light and that had it not been for the morbid traffic jam that I was stranded in, you would have been deprived of even that bit of attention from side.
And pardon me not for my lack of interest in pretending to be fascinated with the bull**** that the two of you have been tossing back and forth at each other in the course of the last three years. It's pretty obvious that the two of you are better off fighting for your own rights rather than worrying about others or women for that matter. The way things work in life is not according to the beliefs of two morons who join in forces at their own convenience and then go back to bashing each other's families and go back to their original state of being when they no longer see a purpose in that decision.
Beware of the man who forgets and forgives easily.

So let me get this straight; instead of paying attention to the road and being fully aware of and in control of your vehicle; you were checking the internet so you can post your asinine commentary about something you claimed you have no interest in; Despite the obvious danger that not being fully attentive behind a vehicle (even at a stop light) poses to yourself and others?

This is precisely what I mean by a warped sense of priorities. You're such a small minded and despicably parasitic attention seeker, you're willing to disregard anything that has important social consequences just to inject your resentment, even if it pertains to the welfare of others. What you failed to realize; what is being discussed here is an alarming idea being propagated by people claiming to fight for Islam and it manifests itself in REAL TIME variables where actual women are subject to sexual victimization. Your rants are really a projection of what you hate inside yourself most; what you perceive is a mirror of you. How do does it feel to see your own ugly reflection? Feel free to write back in some desperate attempt at overcompensation.