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  • #31
    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    No, I'm talking about the gloating about victimizing women; as if you have it pre-meditated on what you're going to do.

    I'm fully aware of what Nabi(saw) did and none of that can even remotely be compared to what you're intending to do. The Muslims were being oppressed and persecuted by the people they enslaved. Not targeting women who were simply not Muslim but happened to fall under their control; As Shamlawar's post suggests.

    Banu Quraydha was concocting a plan to exterminate Muslims; he enslaved them to restrict their ability to rise up again. Muhammad(saw) did not premeditate the prospect of capturing their women for himself; he fought them, captured them and then decided, not decided that getting some Russian women.

    you and Shamlawar are perverts. a REAL pervert, the one that has sick thoughts of harming people with sexual violence. People like you hide behind religion for your own twisted agenda.

    These western Jihadis won´t survive two days in Afghanistan. Let them. In Syria you see Hazara and these Taliban monkies fighting and two days later all of them dying. Not much places or caves to hide in Syria like they have in Afghanistan

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
      These western Jihadis won´t survive two days in Afghanistan. Let them. In Syria you see Hazara and these Taliban monkies fighting and two days later all of them dying. Not much places or caves to hide in Syria like they have in Afghanistan
      I'm not a jihadi, I'm a muslim and so is my brother Shamalwar.

      I find it quite hypocritical that the likes of people like you and other western pashtuns are also talking and not joining the ANA or the arbaki's or any other dying ideological group in AFG. You aren't any different than anyone else talking on the internet about the battlefield, you just happen to be on the other side. I dare you to go even 10 killometres out of kabul and join the Afghan army, mili urdus, arbakis, or the police. You'd piss your pants at pulli charkhi.

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      • #33
        on another note, Shamalwar wasn't gloating about taking Russian women as slaves, he was only stating the probable reprucussions that may happen if the Taliban/jihadis and insurgents invade Russian invaded countries.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
          on another note, Shamalwar wasn't gloating about taking Russian women as slaves, he was only stating the probable reprucussions that may happen if the Taliban/jihadis and insurgents invade Russian invaded countries.
          there are many probably repercussions, why does he have to specifically mention that one, even though its only his own fantasy. it has nothing to do with Islam. why are you going out of your way to defend a perverted munafiq.

          Islam is about defending women, not raping them.
          Last edited by khushal; 10-19-2013, 08:14 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            there are many probably repercussions, why does he have to specifically mention that one, even though its only his own fantasy. it has nothing to do with Islam. why are you going out of your way to defend a perverted munafiq.

            Islam is about defending women, not raping them.
            your the one mentioning the rape of women, he didn't. Have you thought why did he mention RUSSIAN women and not turkmen or uzbek? Its because russian female soldiers are based in Central asian countries. Islam is about defending women but not when they themselves are holding guns to kill you. It is legal in Islam to take women as captives in war, this is the issue in hand stop diverting it and deal with this.

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            • #36
              he made a stupid joke and i don't think he was serious about it.

              if i was a salafi, i would dive head first into this and find some precedent that says he is a kafir or something but come on, let it go.

              lets say shamwow was stupid for his comments and move on to the next intellectually worthless argument.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #37
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                he made a stupid joke and i don't think he was serious about it.

                if i was a salafi, i would dive head first into this and find some precedent that says he is a kafir or something but come on, let it go.

                lets say shamwow was stupid for his comments and move on to the next intellectually worthless argument.
                what a strawman, salafis are actually known for their murjia and lack of takfir, just because they say something is kufr doesn't mean they believe you are a kafir. Sometimes i agree with their lack of takfir and sometimes i don't.

                Stop overexaggerating, Salafis don't make that much takfir on such minuscule issues.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                  what a strawman, salafis are actually known for their murjia and lack of takfir, just because they say something is kufr doesn't mean they believe you are a kafir. Sometimes i agree with their lack of takfir and sometimes i don't.

                  Stop overexaggerating, Salafis don't make that much takfir on such minuscule issues.
                  Dont argue with him about Islam. He cant even read a verse of quran. Total jahi murakab who thinks taking women as right hand posession is a joke.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                    your the one mentioning the rape of women, he didn't. Have you thought why did he mention RUSSIAN women and not turkmen or uzbek? Its because russian female soldiers are based in Central asian countries. Islam is about defending women but not when they themselves are holding guns to kill you. It is legal in Islam to take women as captives in war, this is the issue in hand stop diverting it and deal with this.
                    No he mentioned it, read his post again. He is gloating and bragging the same way Prince Harry was bragging about killing Afghans as though it was some kind of a game. He mentioned Russian women because PF member Halo is Russian, it was directed at her. His intention is to use Islam to insult her dignity which is a violation of the Quran. The guy is a pervert and a munafiq. It has been proven. You trying o defend him makes you the same.

                    As for your second comment, why does he have to mention women at all, why does he not say soldiers. Why does he have to mention slavery. The guy is a poster child for people who want to defame Islam and your helping him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      No he mentioned it, read his post again. He is gloating and bragging the same way Prince Harry was bragging about killing Afghans as though it was some kind of a game. He mentioned Russian women because PF member Halo is Russian, it was directed at her. His intention is to use Islam to insult her dignity which is a violation of the Quran. The guy is a pervert and a munafiq. It has been proven. You trying o defend him makes you the same.

                      As for your second comment, why does he have to mention women at all, why does he not say soldiers. Why does he have to mention slavery. The guy is a poster child for people who want to defame Islam and your helping him.
                      he can mention it if he wants, its permissible, and i re read the comment no mention of rape. That is your own interpretation.

                      you can have sex with slaves without raping them.

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                      • #41
                        Taking women as war booty is considered rape by the same people who believe democracy is not shirk.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                          he can mention it if he wants, its permissible, and i re read the comment no mention of rape. That is your own interpretation.

                          you can have sex with slaves without raping them.
                          where did you get that from. tell me where it says its permissible.

                          do you even know what the definition of rape is?
                          Last edited by khushal; 10-21-2013, 05:15 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            Taking women as war booty is considered rape by the same people who believe democracy is not shirk.
                            shirk this, apostate that. what else you got.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                              on another note, Shamalwar wasn't gloating about taking Russian women as slaves, he was only stating the probable reprucussions that may happen if the Taliban/jihadis and insurgents invade Russian invaded countries.

                              Which is gloating considering he considers them his allies

                              please stop trying to rationalize disgusting behavior and NEVER compare your motives to Nabi(saw).. Nabi(saw) had reasons and princples behind what he did. Shamlawar is just a closet rapist.

                              HUGE difference.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                                Taking women as war booty is considered rape by the same people who believe democracy is not shirk.
                                taking women as war booty is considered rape because women are not consenting to be taken as war booty, and thus any sexual intercourse would be based on fear or coercion and hence rape. BY THE DEFINITION of rape.

                                see right there in the dictionary.

                                rape1 [reyp] Show IPA noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
                                noun
                                1.
                                the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
                                2.
                                any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
                                Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 10-21-2013, 06:42 PM.
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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