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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    Let me ask you another question: have you already tried to apply for asylum in America because after 2014 you won't be able to live in Afghanistan anymore.

    I know a few high ranking officers in the security services applied for asylum in Europe recently while still in office in Kabul. Have you too?
    Can you please name few? Will you be in Afghanistan after 2014? I survived the war with my two little brothers and one sister for the last 20years. All other family members died at the same day when I was 11. Stop bluffing. You live in the west. You have no idea. The only victory you will have are cells in some parts in the south.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      When the Americans leave Afghanistan, the next stage is to support the Muslims of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.

      Soon, the governments there will fall, mujahideen will take over and will be taken Russian women there as slaves.

      a very beghairat thing to say.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        Let me ask you another question: have you already tried to apply for asylum in America because after 2014 you won't be able to live in Afghanistan anymore.
        Will you go to Afghanistan after 2014 if your buddies will be in power?

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        • #19
          seriously people I am totally angry right now; I don't know how we can even acknowledge the legitimacy of anyone who is gloating about the possibility of victimizing women.

          disgusting; I think that's more serious than any political rant here. That's not what Islam or the Shari'ah is about. No wonder we face so much resistance from secularists; we have these cretins who pretend they want our deen but do everything to make it look like a cadre of desperate thugs with rape fantasies.

          I have lost any semblance of respect for Shamlawar that I may have believed I had. Go back to being an Atheist Rapper in Holland please; at least then you weren't a total ****bag.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #20
            it´s not his fault. It´s our tradition that is very strict toward women. The role of women in islamic societies is weak due non-islamic traditions

            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
            seriously people I am totally angry right now; I don't know how we can even acknowledge the legitimacy of anyone who is gloating about the possibility of victimizing women.

            disgusting; I think that's more serious than any political rant here. That's not what Islam or the Shari'ah is about. No wonder we face so much resistance from secularists; we have these cretins who pretend they want our deen but do everything to make it look like a cadre of desperate thugs with rape fantasies.

            I have lost any semblance of respect for Shamlawar that I may have believed I had. Go back to being an Atheist Rapper in Holland please; at least then you weren't a total ****bag.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bost Bastan News View Post
              Can you please name few? Will you be in Afghanistan after 2014? I survived the war with my two little brothers and one sister for the last 20years. All other family members died at the same day when I was 11. Stop bluffing. You live in the west. You have no idea. The only victory you will have are cells in some parts in the south.
              Did you stay because you couldnt leave?

              I can move to Afghanistan when ever I want. I am not waiting for 2014. When ever I am ready to do hijra I will do so because hijra is an act of worship. It has its requirements.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #22
                Taking kaafiras as slaves is what happens when Muslim conquer territories. Apparently rtr things its beghairat to follow the sunnah of prophet and sahaba.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                  Will you go to Afghanistan after 2014 if your buddies will be in power?
                  My buddies are in charge in south/east afg, parts of yemen, somalia, syria and Iraq.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                    being arrested, jailed, tortured, dead, does nothing for a movement. may Allah give the ikhwan strength in egypt.
                    may allah give them some brain and especially humanity
                    faye's chauffeur

                    Pashton's girlfriend

                    I'm a Pashtun Princes


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      Did you stay because you couldnt leave?

                      I can move to Afghanistan when ever I want. I am not waiting for 2014. When ever I am ready to do hijra I will do so because hijra is an act of worship. It has its requirements.
                      Our men and women will wait for you

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                        Taking kaafiras as slaves is what happens when Muslim conquer territories. Apparently rtr things its beghairat to follow the sunnah of prophet and sahaba.


                        I don't recall any Hadith where Nabi(saw) and the sahaba akram (ra) were gloating about the prospect of capturing women as slaves.

                        Please enlighten me on that one.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #27
                          are you guys stupid? There are plenty of mujahideen all over Khorosan (central asian +afg pashtunistan)

                          this is from Kazakistan

                          (Decided not to post this video)


                          mujahideen have went from kazakhistan and have joined the Syrian jihaid movement.

                          Turkestan has a lot of mujahideen due to the conflict they have with china

                          Uzbekistan Mujahideen are the most strongest group, they operate in afg, pak, and uzbekistan in the tribal places.

                          However Turkmenistan, having a lot of customers from their area, i'm well aware of their reality, are far from Islam and dont have any mujahideen their.

                          Tajikstan has a history of insurgency, so to think that their is no mujahideen there is to be in denial.
                          Last edited by Khorosani; 10-16-2013, 01:41 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            I don't recall any Hadith where Nabi(saw) and the sahaba akram (ra) were gloating about the prospect of capturing women as slaves.

                            Please enlighten me on that one.
                            your talking about victimizing women, not about gloating.

                            Its permissible to make prisoners of wars into your slaves, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did it and nobody should be blamed for doing so.

                            However, those prisoners of war are counted as ghanema, and Muslims should never fight jihad for the sake of ghanema rather for the sake of Allah and the cause of Allah.

                            *i know of at least 2 wives of the Prophet (pbuh) who were captured as war booty and than the Prophet (pbuh) married them. One of the jewish women of banu quraydah was also his slave and he offered to marry her but she refused.
                            Last edited by Khorosani; 10-16-2013, 01:39 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                              your talking about victimizing women, not about gloating.

                              Its permissible to make prisoners of wars into your slaves, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did it and nobody should be blamed for doing so.

                              However, those prisoners of war are counted as ghanema, and Muslims should never fight jihad for the sake of ghanema rather for the sake of Allah and the cause of Allah.

                              *i know of at least 2 wives of the Prophet (pbuh) who were captured as war booty and than the Prophet (pbuh) married them. One of the jewish women of banu quraydah was also his slave and he offered to marry her but she refused.


                              No, I'm talking about the gloating about victimizing women; as if you have it pre-meditated on what you're going to do.

                              I'm fully aware of what Nabi(saw) did and none of that can even remotely be compared to what you're intending to do. The Muslims were being oppressed and persecuted by the people they enslaved. Not targeting women who were simply not Muslim but happened to fall under their control; As Shamlawar's post suggests.

                              Banu Quraydha was concocting a plan to exterminate Muslims; he enslaved them to restrict their ability to rise up again. Muhammad(saw) did not premeditate the prospect of capturing their women for himself; he fought them, captured them and then decided, not decided that getting some Russian women.

                              you and Shamlawar are perverts. a REAL pervert, the one that has sick thoughts of harming people with sexual violence. People like you hide behind religion for your own twisted agenda.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                No, I'm talking about the gloating about victimizing women; as if you have it pre-meditated on what you're going to do.

                                I'm fully aware of what Nabi(saw) did and none of that can even remotely be compared to what you're intending to do. The Muslims were being oppressed and persecuted by the people they enslaved. Not targeting women who were simply not Muslim but happened to fall under their control; As Shamlawar's post suggests.

                                Banu Quraydha was concocting a plan to exterminate Muslims; he enslaved them to restrict their ability to rise up again. Muhammad(saw) did not premeditate the prospect of capturing their women for himself; he fought them, captured them and then decided, not decided that getting some Russian women.

                                you and Shamlawar are perverts. a REAL pervert, the one that has sick thoughts of harming people with sexual violence. People like you hide behind religion for your own twisted agenda.
                                Loool i don't know why your are saying that i am saying we should take russian women or w.e i haven't spoken about taking any women as slaves. I'm only speaking about the permissibility. Ali, Abu Bakr and Umar (may Allah be pleased with all of them) each took a daughter of the kisra as a slave (can't remember if they married them or not) and they all bore children for them. How did they take such women has slaves except through them falling as booty of war?

                                Open our history books, any place we conquered we took people as booty of war, from the time of the sahaba right until the ottoman rule. However the objective of jihad is not to take women as booty of war rather to make the word of Allah the highest. Booty of war is just what comes with the jihad, if it comes alhamdulillah if not alhamdulillah.
                                Last edited by Khorosani; 10-16-2013, 03:02 PM.

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