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  • #31
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    Shura is defined as consultation

    Mehsud was elected through consultation so he was chosen as a leader by voting via democracy per the above definition

    just in case you don't know what the definition of voting is:

    Vote : the official choice that you make in an election, meeting, etc., by casting a ballot, raising your hand, speaking your choice aloud, etc.
    I dont see you refering back to quran or hadith or at least a senior imam for your definition of shura.

    You are using the same method the captain of team shirk, Badlun always uses.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
      I dont see you refering back to quran or hadith or at least a senior imam for your definition of shura.

      You are using the same method the captain of team shirk, Badlun always uses.
      Shura is an Arabic word, look it up in the dictionary if you have doubt of what it is.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Shura is an Arabic word, look it up in the dictionary if you have doubt of what it is.
        I dont need the linguistic definition. I need the legal definition.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          Do all members of team shirk accept this as a single un-ambiguous definition?

          [MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] [MENTION=4934]RevolutionThroughReason[/MENTION]
          yeah sounds about right; does team Brainwashed by Saudis concur?
          Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 10-10-2013, 09:46 PM.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #35
            [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION] since you happen to be such a linguistic genius, please tell me what is the Arabic root word of Shura.
            Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 10-10-2013, 09:41 PM.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
              I dont need the linguistic definition. I need the legal definition.
              do you also want the scientific definition?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                yeah sounds about right; Brainwashed by Saudis concur?
                Since you mu'tazilis are such good linguists I am sure you can tell me what the root word for Shura is, right?
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  do you also want the scientific definition?
                  Miskin, you dont even know what a legal definition is, do you?
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #39
                    Shamlawar is very educated within Islam. I end up agreeing with him on a lot of things.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
                      Shamlawar is very educated within Islam. I end up agreeing with him on a lot of things.
                      all he does is name calling and copying and pasting from Wahhabi scholars.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pakwatan View Post
                        Shamlawar is very educated within Islam. I end up agreeing with him on a lot of things.
                        Actually you are wrong. I am not much educated and I am often wrong. I believe democracy is shirk and I kindly asked them to convince me otherwise but in stead they play games.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                          Since you mu'tazilis are such good linguists I am sure you can tell me what the root word for Shura is, right?
                          uh the root word of Shura is Shur. ....and??
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            Actually you are wrong. I am not much educated and I am often wrong. I believe democracy is shirk and I kindly asked them to convince me otherwise but in stead they play games.
                            oh if this is about convincing you, then who cares.

                            forget it then. we don't need to convince you; you need to convince us we're in violation of Islam; a bunch of Saudis peddling their agenda driven interpretations is not enough.
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                              all he does is name calling and copying and pasting from Wahhabi scholars.
                              Well, I am a Wahabi. There are 99 names for Allah swt, and Wahab is definitely one of them. We Wahabis are Muslim too. We do not believe in praying on people's graves, like Shia Muslims sometimes do, nor do we believe in clergy. Meaning, no mullah can dictate me. My faith is between me and my creator. I don't judge anyone else for their practice, but I have obligations as a Muslim. I must pray, give zakhat, and help spread knowledge across the masses of the world.
                              Last edited by Pakwatan; 10-10-2013, 09:59 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                                Miskin, you dont even know what a legal definition is, do you?
                                more name calling, that does not work on me. Just ask RTR, he is far better at name calling than you are.

                                So back to topic. Is mehsud who you think should be ruler guilty of Shirk in your Saudi brainwashed mind because he was elected or not and why not?

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