Pakistan needs a name change!

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Bismillah

As Salaamu Alaykum,

Brothers and sisters! I am not writing this to insult anybody or to hurt anybody's feelings. Please have patience and read carefully.

Pakistan is a country where the Muslims have decided to distinguish themselves from the polytheist Hindus. In Pakistan, there is a general misconception that Hindus are physically impure. Therefore, Pakistanis assume that since they are not Hindus, they are pure.

"Pak" is a farsi word for pure and clean. Hence, Pakistan stands for the land of the pure or the land of the clean.

The Qur'anic verse used as reference by Pakistanis to claim purity is explained by the Hanafi scholar Imam Abu Bakar al Jasas ar-Razi:

The usage of the word, filth with regards to polytheists is because the polytheist believes that which much be avoided, just as filth and dirty matters must be avoided. This is why they were named filthy. (Jassas, Tafsir Ahkam al-Quran, 3.130)


Since polytheism as a belief system is considered impure, one cannot claim that Hindus are all physically impure. After all, all human beings are children of of Adam and Allah has created mankind not be an impure being. Everybody can become a monotheist and leave state of impurity. So impurity in this sense is not physical.

It is the ideas and beliefs which are impure. Therefore, when one's thoughts and ideas are impure one cannot claim to be "Pak".

Pakistan is a country where the consitution and the whole legal system is based on British man-made laws. Choosing another lawgiver other than Allah is polytheism. Therefore, the Pakistan as a country is constitutionally polytheist.

Furthermore, Pakistani religion is that of worshipping graves. Almost every village in Pakistan has a grave site where people go to to beseech other than Allah.

We all know that beseeching other than Allah is polytheism. Therefore, it is more appropriate to say Pakistan is a polytheist society except those who do not engage in polytheism.

In conclusion we could say that since both religious practice and the legal system is polytheistic, one cannot claim that Pakistan is Pak.

So I advice the sincere brothers and sisters of Pakistan to change the name of the country to Shirkistan or Murdaristan. Because these names are more appropriate.

Alternatively, you could try to change the country and its religious practices by getting rid of polytheism. But I am afraid that it won't be possible in foreseeable future. Therefore a name change for the country seems more appropriate.

Note, I am your benefactor. I mean no harm. I am just giving you a sincere advice.

Wasalaam

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Well Pakistanis are growing up and the new generation of Pakistanis are not like the previous.

they are educated and secular.as per studies 70% of the youth is educated.

may be the likes of ayub khan and similar considered Hindus as impure.But we dont

As a Secular Muslim.I only consider them non muslim.

To me A pakistani hindu is more closer than a indian muslim..

Being 20 years older i find many.May be majority.to be secular and thinking similar to me those having age similar to me.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

panjabistan

daalistan

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

panjabistan

daalistan

well they are now trying to divide provinces at divisional level
The govt is very seriously looking into this idea.

there are 28 divisions in Pakistan.hence 28 states will be created.

to bring All the pakistanis under 1 identity

Other than this even baloch nationalist leaders has also given green signal for a possible pashtun province being made out of Balochistan.

if the divisions plan didnt made it

Than the older plan is

Balochistan into 3 provinces
1-A pashtun province with different name
2-Gwadar to be made a seperate province with adjoining smaller areas.also giving autonomous state status to gwadar similar to hong kong
2-Older balochistan with kalat as capital.

KPK=

1-older kpk
2-hazara

Punjab
1=Older punjab
2=saraikistan
3=South punjab with bahawalpur as capital

Sindh
1=Again karachi witha adjacent areas a seperate province
2=Older sindh without karachi and hyderabad being part of it also the coastal regions


Hence total 10


though 1 another in sibbi balochistan named daalistan as proposed by you for people like you.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

well they are now trying to divide provinces at divisional level
The govt is very seriously looking into this idea.

there are 28 divisions in Pakistan.hence 28 states will be created.

to bring All the pakistanis under 1 identity

Other than this even baloch nationalist leaders has also given green signal for a possible pashtun province being made out of Balochistan.

if the divisions plan didnt made it

Than the older plan is

Balochistan into 3 provinces
1-A pashtun province with different name
2-Gwadar to be made a seperate province with adjoining smaller areas.also giving autonomous state status to gwadar similar to hong kong
2-Older balochistan with kalat as capital.

KPK=

1-older kpk
2-hazara

Punjab
1=Older punjab
2=saraikistan
3=South punjab with bahawalpur as capital

Sindh
1=Again karachi witha adjacent areas a seperate province
2=Older sindh without karachi and hyderabad being part of it also the coastal regions


Hence total 10


though 1 another in sibbi balochistan named daalistan as proposed by you for people like you.

no matter what it is, pakistan will always be ruled by Punjabis since the capital is in panjab, everything is panjab and panjabis despite having so many divisions. If someone talks to you about "Pakistan" they are talking about panjabis. when Pakistanis go to Uk/London or USA, if you go to their community culture center in Uk/London or USA their culture promotes Panjabi culture since pakistan is a majority panjabi ruled country and even if baloch or pashtun live there, they have no identity since pakistan is panjabis and you can evne witness it in foreign country. Go to any foreign country and visit Pakistani culture center, only panjabis are there, only panjabis or muhajirs and all they play is panjabi songs and all their crap.

Once again let me make this clear to you, there was no gay Pakistan 60 years ago. This is a new state made by muslim indians (panjabi muslims). This state is ruled by panjabis and made by Qaid ezam (the gay dude). There was no Pakistan 60 years ago, even my grandfather is older than Pakistan. Pakistan has nothing to do with afghanistan or balochistan (afghanistan/balochistan were already INDEPENDENT nations) after pakistan FORCEFULLY occupied them. Balochistan existed before Pakistan (when there wasn't even such name as Pakistan). It existed in historical context and if you are educated enough to read some books it will mention very clearly that 1948 Pakistani army occupied and seiged The KALAT (Capital) and had an agreement with the khan of kalat. Since then Panjabis (Pakistanis) have been eating our recourses, not giving us rights, education, etc. On top of that they are killing Baloch people in massive ammounts which you have no idea about since they dont cover that in news. It was reported that more than 4000 Baloch were killed in the past 5 years in Balochistan. They have torned Balochistan apart and made it warn torn like Afghanistan.

Now when we want our original Independent land back, you call us traitors. Traitors to what?? fk Pakis and their Panjabi culture, it has nothing to do with us. Why are you calling me daal khor. I am not a daal khor. You should be with our side instead of blending in and aborbing Pakistani panjabi culture.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

no matter what it is, pakistan will always be ruled by Punjabis since the capital is in panjab, everything is panjab and panjabis despite having so many divisions. If someone talks to you about "Pakistan" they are talking about panjabis. when Pakistanis go to Uk/London or USA, if you go to their community culture center in Uk/London or USA their culture promotes Panjabi culture since pakistan is a majority panjabi ruled country and even if baloch or pashtun live there, they have no identity since pakistan is panjabis and you can evne witness it in foreign country. Go to any foreign country and visit Pakistani culture center, only panjabis are there, only panjabis or muhajirs and all they play is panjabi songs and all their crap.

Once again let me make this clear to you, there was no gay Pakistan 60 years ago. This is a new state made by muslim indians (panjabi muslims). This state is ruled by panjabis and made by Qaid ezam (the gay dude). There was no Pakistan 60 years ago, even my grandfather is older than Pakistan. Pakistan has nothing to do with afghanistan or balochistan (afghanistan/balochistan were already INDEPENDENT nations) after pakistan FORCEFULLY occupied them. Balochistan existed before Pakistan (when there wasn't even such name as Pakistan). It existed in historical context and if you are educated enough to read some books it will mention very clearly that 1948 Pakistani army occupied and seiged The KALAT (Capital) and had an agreement with the khan of kalat. Since then Panjabis (Pakistanis) have been eating our recourses, not giving us rights, education, etc. On top of that they are killing Baloch people in massive ammounts which you have no idea about since they dont cover that in news. It was reported that more than 4000 Baloch were killed in the past 5 years in Balochistan. They have torned Balochistan apart and made it warn torn like Afghanistan.

Now when we want our original Independent land back, you call us traitors. Traitors to what?? fk Pakis and their Panjabi culture, it has nothing to do with us. Why are you calling me daal khor. I am not a daal khor. You should be with our side instead of blending in and aborbing Pakistani panjabi culture.

Delusions mr Baloch Delusions

Do you want me to invite my baloch friends to the forum so that they can abuse you in return and rather call you a afghan?

in my life i have never met a anti pak baloch.
99.9% of them believe me are more patriotic than me or any other Pakistani.

the rest of your Post show your hatred for Pakistan.
Pakistan is not punjabi.i beg to differ.even Punjab is not punjabi

In punjab 20% of population alone makes the saraiki people.and there are other smaller groups.

I remember you said you are from Quetta?so you had run away or still living in Pakistan?

[NiMade Olga]

well they are now trying to divide provinces at divisional level
The govt is very seriously looking into this idea.

Once we were sitting with friends and discussed this matter and came to opinion that there might come a day when to go from Islamabad to Peshawar and back (or any other location, let's say to Multan, for instance) you will need to get a visa. It sounds so nonsense and unbelievably funny, but it is really sad. If country will start being divided more and more, it will bring us to separating whole states and making new countries. Is it what we really want? To have a separate country of KPK and separate country of Sind, and all just not to be together with punjabian? Even Shazein who is leading thousands of Balochis doesn't think of it!


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[M17ArnoBaloch]

Delusions mr Baloch Delusions

Do you want me to invite my baloch friends to the forum so that they can abuse you in return and rather call you a afghan?

in my life i have never met a anti pak baloch.
99.9% of them believe me are more patriotic than me or any other Pakistani.

the rest of your Post show your hatred for Pakistan.
Pakistan is not punjabi.i beg to differ.even Punjab is not punjabi

In punjab 20% of population alone makes the saraiki people.and there are other smaller groups.

I remember you said you are from Quetta?so you had run away or still living in Pakistan?

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY KIDDING ME????

I LIVED ALL MY LIFE IN QUETTA I HAVE NEVER SEEN 1 BALOCH WHO LIKE PAKISTAN. BRING ME 1 BALOCH WHO LIKES PAKISTAN.

It's the exact opposite what you are saying. Your making things up. I have never seen 1 baloch in favour of their occupied nation. Bring me 1 Baloch. Bring him call him up as you said you have tons of them. Bring is (just dont make a fake account pls). You are seriously misguided, who ever baloch told you that, your obviously making things up. 99.9%? LOOOOOOOOLLL

You crossed the limit, it's the exact opposite, you have no exposure. And obviously faking everying. More patriotic than panjabis? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

you made my day sir.

no one likes gay pakistan

[NiMade Olga]

Go to any foreign country and visit Pakistani culture center, only panjabis are there, only panjabis or muhajirs and all they play is panjabi songs and all their crap.

But this is what YOU guys can change.
You know, reputation of Russians in Pakistan is very bad, but we have a community who lives decent life and showing with their own example how are real Russians are. If we will keep quite and will hide our origin, or if we will say "ok all bad people gave bad name to our nation so let's just refuse our origin" then our reputation will never get good. And that is what you guys do: instead of solving, you are just pretending that the problem doesn't have to do anything with you.


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[M17ArnoBaloch]

Delusions mr Baloch Delusions

Do you want me to invite my baloch friends to the forum so that they can abuse you in return and rather call you a afghan?

in my life i have never met a anti pak baloch.
99.9% of them believe me are more patriotic than me or any other Pakistani.

the rest of your Post show your hatred for Pakistan.
Pakistan is not punjabi.i beg to differ.even Punjab is not punjabi

In punjab 20% of population alone makes the saraiki people.and there are other smaller groups.

I remember you said you are from Quetta?so you had run away or still living in Pakistan?

Bro seriously don't fake things up. 99.9 just exposed everybody on how bias and how you faked the number. Why dont you like afghanistan? why do you hate it. WHy do you love pakistan? Just why? All pashtuns are afghans and hating afghanistan is like hating your own dad and being embarassed to call your dad, Dad. Why bro, afghanistan is so nice, the peple and everything, why do you like daalkhor panjabis (from india)?

[M17ArnoBaloch]

But this is what YOU guys can change.
You know, reputation of Russians in Pakistan is very bad, but we have a community who lives decent life and showing with their own example how are real Russians are. If we will keep quite and will hide our origin, or if we will say "ok all bad people gave bad name to our nation so let's just refuse our origin" then our reputation will never get good. And that is what you guys do: instead of solving, you are just pretending that the problem doesn't have to do anything with you.


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Baloch/Pashtuns are not Pakistanis. They were forced into occupation, Just like chechniya. Chechnia is different from Russians. We are occupied, so Pakistan is not our origin since it never existed in history (only 60 years ago), they forced us into occupation and took our land. So how is it our origin?

Also keep in mind baloch are not just in Pakistan, about 4 million in Iran (sistan va Baluchestan province), Oman, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan. A small population also lives in Syria and Lebanon (land of origin of Baloch).

Also there are Russian Baloch. Baloch who happen to live in Russia (around 3000). However, they are not in their true form as they have become "white" mixing with the locals there. However, they still retain their last name "Baloch". Or Beloch, Beluch, Baluch, whatever way you wanna call it.

Same with the Kurds, they are widespread in places like Iraq, Syria, Iran and Lebanon.

[NiMade Olga]

Baloch/Pashtuns are not Pakistanis. They were forced into occupation, Just like chechniya. Chechnia is different from Russians.

Oh please let us not to touch the Chechnya topic as you know everything just from the proamerican tv programs!
And I hope one day you will understand what you've just wrote and will get shocked by it.


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[M17ArnoBaloch]

Oh please let us not to touch the Chechnya topic as you know everything just from the proamerican tv programs!
And I hope one day you will understand what you've just wrote and will get shocked by it.


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I was just giving you an example. Just to tell you of the situation. Obviously I dont know much about Chechniya whatever. But it was just an example. Pakistan occupied us and forced us into their nation. Pakistani people are originally indians (but muslim, muslim indians). Baloch/Pashtun who happen to live in Pakistan is because their land has been occupied. KPK was originally Afghanistan's land and Balochistan was an independent country which was occupied in 1948. Half of Balochistan was occupied by Pakistan and the other half was occupied by Iranis. Balochistan was sliced in half by these two countries. Also some parts of Balochistan are in Afghanistan (Helmand province).

Iran still hasn't changed their province name (Sistan va baluchestan) for some reason.

[NiMade Olga]

I was just giving you an example. Just to tell you of the situation. Obviously I dont know much about Chechniya whatever. But it was just an example. Pakistan occupied us and forced us into their nation. Pakistani people are originally indians (but muslim, muslim indians). Baloch/Pashtun who happen to live in Pakistan is because their land has been occupied. KPK was originally Afghanistan's land and Balochistan was an independent country which was occupied in 1948. Half of Balochistan was occupied by Pakistan and the other half was occupied by Iranis. Balochistan was sliced in half by these two countries. Also some parts of Balochistan are in Afghanistan (Helmand province).

Iran still hasn't changed their province name (Sistan va baluchestan) for some reason.

Ok, now what in your opinion should be done to make you happy? To separate Baluchistan from Pk? And then the question: what next? Do you think you will stay as a separate country? For how long then? - till America will get a reason to put their nose and army onto your land claiming that all roots of terrorism are growing from there! (You know all these bull**** stories which their president always tells to idiots around) Or will you connect to Afghanistan - a country which will not be able to come into a normal condition for decades? And I'm sure you will be not feeling happy to become a part of Iran. So tell me please, what Free Republic of Balochistan will do after getting its independence?


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[M17ArnoBaloch]

Ok, now what in your opinion should be done to make you happy? To separate Baluchistan from Pk? And then the question: what next? Do you think you will stay as a separate country? For how long then? - till America will get a reason to put their nose and army onto your land claiming that all roots of terrorism are growing from there! (You know all these bull**** stories which their president always tells to idiots around) Or will you connect to Afghanistan - a country which will not be able to come into a normal condition for decades? And I'm sure you will be not feeling happy to become a part of Iran. So tell me please, what Free Republic of Balochistan will do after getting its independence?


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This is a typical Paki thinking.

Anyways, did the US invade Bangladesh? Did India occupy Bangladesh since India was the one who didnt allow Pakistan airforce to go to Bangladesh. Since it was apparent that India wanted to seperate Bangladesh and India was seen as a Land eating country or a country hungry for Land (Kashmir, etc) It should've occupied Bangladesh (the newly free Country), but did it? No, it did not.

Leave the future alone. Nothing will happen to it. No one will occupy Balochistan since Afghanistan is too poor to even support it own self, do you think they will go to war with Balochistan? For what?. They won't. They are poor already and already economically destroyed. Also Iran won't occupy Balochistan either, since No country can occupy another country in this modern world. With contract with the United Nations, no country can occupy another country. It won't happen. Just like India didn't occupy Bangladesh. It didn't. Same like that,

I suggest not worring about what will happen to the Future. Don't worry about the Future. JUST GIVE OUR LAND BACK. That's it.