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  • #16
    being wrong is not an insult.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sangar View Post
      being wrong is not an insult.
      How could you declare all Hanafis kafirs. Have some shame man.
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pakistani
        Sangar I am hanafi how am i wrong?
        you need to re-read what I have said in the beginning.

        Mujib attacks anyone who does not follow Hanafi madhab and claims they are all telling falsehood.

        The reason why he does that is because he does not allow Muslims to base their religion on Quran and Sunnah. He rather see people following the mullahs blindly and practice sufism.

        And this is a common problem among Hanafis. The do not wish to follow evidence from quran and hadith on how to pray and how to do wudu etc. They just do as they are told by mullahs.

        And while they do that, they abuse the name of Imaam Abu Haneefah rahmatullahi alayhi.

        Because Imaam Abu Haneefa never said nor desired people to follow mullahs blindly. His famous statement was, that anything from him that is in contradiction with quran and sunnah should be rejected.

        Yet the modern day hanafis reject ahadith that contradict their fiqh. They claim that the ahadith are irrelevant and since their forefathers always practice Islam as such, they should also refrain from correcting themselves.

        This is why hanafis are wrong.

        But every group among Muslims has its own flaws and wrong aspects.

        Important thing is, that we should be open minded people and accept the truth when we find it.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
          How could you declare all Hanafis kafirs. Have some shame man.
          I did not declare hanafis as kaafirs you filthy liar.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sangar View Post
            Mujib attacks anyone who does not follow Hanafi madhab and claims they are all telling falsehood.
            I agree, but don't you do the same?

            Originally posted by Sangar View Post

            The reason why he does that is because he does not allow Muslims to base their religion on Quran and Sunnah. He rather see people following the mullahs blindly and practice sufism.
            Yes, I agree he does do that. However, you do the same. When Quranic verses are shown to you it does not change your stance. You rather follow your own scholars.

            Originally posted by Sangar View Post

            And this is a common problem among Hanafis. The do not wish to follow evidence from quran and hadith on how to pray and how to do wudu etc. They just do as they are told by mullahs.
            Are you sure about this?

            Originally posted by Sangar View Post

            Yet the modern day hanafis reject ahadith that contradict their fiqh. They claim that the ahadith are irrelevant and since their forefathers always practice Islam as such, they should also refrain from correcting themselves.

            This is why hanafis are wrong.

            But every group among Muslims has its own flaws and wrong aspects.

            Important thing is, that we should be open minded people and accept the truth when we find it.
            Brother, please include yourself in this also.
            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pakistani
              some ahadith are weak.

              wror dont you are not a scholar to say we are all wrong. this is ur form of Islam.

              This is what I am trying to say here to everyone: everyone has their own interpretation of Islam. Everyone should just watch out for themselves.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                I did not declare hanafis as kaafirs you filthy liar.
                If you are telling everyone that they are wrong, what does that mean? It means don't follow Hanafis, otherwise....? You said they are deviant. What does that mean? That we should still follow them?

                What is the difference between calling someone deviant and wrong and a kafir?
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pakistani
                  some ahadith are weak.

                  wror dont you are not a scholar to say we are all wrong. this is ur form of Islam.
                  You are correct. I am not a scholar.

                  But the irony in this case is that I have pleaded for following authentic ahadith.

                  Yet Hanafis have many of their jursiprudence based on weak ahadith.


                  While this is exactly what Imaam Abu Haneefa spoke against.

                  LOL
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