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Why is muslim blood cheap?
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Learn from those whose blood is not cheap!
Put aside the religion to your private lives and run your political and economic affairs by professional politicians and economists and make your defense strong.
Do not spread hate against Shias and other sects and schools. Most of the time Muslims kill other Muslims because of extremism and sectarianism.
Pakistan is now a nuclear power so India cannot shed her blood but Taliban and sects are killing each other. Let the foreign forces go from the grand Afghanistan and make your own national police and army strong.
No body will then dare to shed your blood.
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It means capitalism...more and more capital is the solution. Religion will only guide you on spiritual, metaphysical, ontological and ethical lines but will not teach you how to make wealth. Often religion is against worldliness and focus more on life after death not this life.Originally posted by khushal View PostActually the blood of the poor is cheap. the blood of the poor is shed all over the world.
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Its the capitalists without ethics who are shedding the blood of the poor. Who cares about making wealth if you have no ethics. Religion is not against worldliness, it just considers it not a priority.Originally posted by Badlun View PostIt means capitalism...more and more capital is the solution. Religion will only guide you on spiritual, metaphysical, ontological and ethical lines but will not teach you how to make wealth. Often religion is against worldliness and focus more on life after death not this life.
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If rich kill poor then poor has to be rich and to be safe from killing. I do not see any other way out. If you want to rule the jungle then you must be a lion otherwise you will be devoured. You cannot tell lion please save me do not kill me or just keep on blaming the lion for killing you and giving him moral lessons.Originally posted by khushal View PostIts the capitalists without ethics who are shedding the blood of the poor. Who cares about making wealth if you have no ethics. Religion is not against worldliness, it just considers it not a priority.
The biggest ethical formula is deterrence. Be strong and no body will harm you and the ethics will function automatically.
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Badlun those countries that are strong and wealthy in your eyes are actually due to their brutalities on poor nations. They exploite their resources. They are war mongsters. Do you want muslim countries to become like that ?Originally posted by Badlun View PostIf rich kill poor then poor has to be rich and to be safe from killing. I do not see any other way out. If you want to rule the jungle then you must be a lion otherwise you will be devoured. You cannot tell lion please save me do not kill me or just keep on blaming the lion for killing you and giving him moral lessons.
The biggest ethical formula is deterrence. Be strong and no body will harm you and the ethics will function automatically.
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No. This is called realism, balance of power and real Politik. Strength in everything to defend yourself not to attack. Strength in arms but also in economy, culture, media, technology, science, education, standard of life, health etc. Muslim world is weak on all these fronts.Originally posted by Friend View PostBadlun those countries that are strong and wealthy in your eyes are actually due to their brutalities on poor nations. They exploite their resources. They are war mongsters. Do you want muslim countries to become like that ?
Today the fate of Syria is decided by US and Russia , both non Muslims because both are strong. Arab league, OIC etc are paper tigers. Saudi defends itself with US. Afghansitan need US to crush Taliban. Syria needs Russia to be strong. Mali needs France to defeat the Islamists.
Every Muslim wants to be the citizen of the non Muslim world. very few non Muslims would love to live in Muslim lands.
Gone are the days of colonialism. Today US is spending billions in its wars in Afghanistan and spent billions in Iraq. They are not exploiting . its the other way round spending in Afghanistan. Giving not receiving.
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Your last paragraph, so Americans are so good or stupid that they are spending on Afghans ?Originally posted by Badlun View PostNo. This is called realism, balance of power and real Politik. Strength in everything to defend yourself not to attack. Strength in arms but also in economy, culture, media, technology, science, education, standard of life, health etc. Muslim world is weak on all these fronts.
Today the fate of Syria is decided by US and Russia , both non Muslims because both are strong. Arab league, OIC etc are paper tigers. Saudi defends itself with US. Afghansitan need US to crush Taliban. Syria needs Russia to be strong. Mali needs France to defeat the Islamists.
Every Muslim wants to be the citizen of the non Muslim world. very few non Muslims would love to live in Muslim lands.
Gone are the days of colonialism. Today US is spending billions in its wars in Afghanistan and spent billions in Iraq. They are not exploiting . its the other way round spending in Afghanistan. Giving not receiving.
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This is a very relevant question. But the decision to spend or invest in Afghanistan is taken by the concerned authorities of the US. They do every thing in their national and strategic interest. I do not think they are stupid because a super power cannot be run by stupids.Originally posted by Friend View PostYour last paragraph, so Americans are so good or stupid that they are spending on Afghans ?
If you have been to US you will see they have an ideal society. Every thing is almost perfect. Economy, development, markets, jobs, cleanliness, rule of law, human rights and standard of life. They are also feeding millions of people of other nations. Once you enter legally or even illegally after some formalities they declare you citizen.
They will never discriminate you by your religion, culture, color etc. I have never been stopped by any authority and has asked me my identity. Muslims practice their religion without any hindrance.Stupids cannot establish such a great system.
For them security is first and Taliban is threat to their security and thus this huge investment in Afghanistan.Last edited by Badlun; 09-12-2013, 11:35 PM.
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Your argument is a strawman fallacy. No one said the rich kill the poor. Warren Buffet and Bill gates are not mass murderers. The lion is a bad metaphor for your argument. The lion only kills when he is hungary and leaves what he can not eat to other animals, he does not have a refrigerator to store the meat for future use.Originally posted by Badlun View PostIf rich kill poor then poor has to be rich and to be safe from killing. I do not see any other way out. If you want to rule the jungle then you must be a lion otherwise you will be devoured. You cannot tell lion please save me do not kill me or just keep on blaming the lion for killing you and giving him moral lessons.
The biggest ethical formula is deterrence. Be strong and no body will harm you and the ethics will function automatically.
The biggest ethical formula is balance of power to make it difficult for an individual(s) or small group(s) to abuse it.
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The fate of Syria and the rest of the middle east is decided by the five perm members of the UN because they won the war against the defeated powers of Germany, Italy, Japan, Austria/Hungary, Ottomans, India. They have put military bases in the first 4 and have divided up the later 2 into small weak states run by incompetent warlords who are busy fighting each other to prevent them from rising to their former selves.Originally posted by Badlun View PostToday the fate of Syria is decided by US and Russia , both non Muslims because both are strong. Arab league, OIC etc are paper tigers. Saudi defends itself with US. Afghansitan need US to crush Taliban. Syria needs Russia to be strong. Mali needs France to defeat the Islamists.
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