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  • #31
    Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
    Turkey is in Europe yet it isn't a part of EU.

    I understand what you trying to say, but from geographic standpoint all Islamic countries are connected. Iraq to Iran, Iran, to Afghanistan and Balochistan, Afghanistan and Balochistan to Punjab, Punjab to India. Islamic countries is like one big chain.

    So basically if each one had his own Nation(like Afghanistan, Iran, Balochistan, Punjab etc), then Islamic union is possible both economical and political. In the other hand if countries like Pakistan exist who oppress and who try to erase culture/language of other people, then Islamic unity will never happen.
    Pakistan is the only Muslim country born on the name of Islam. All other countries are either republics, or nation states or monarchies or totalitarian.

    If Islam could not unite Pakistanis together and a nation state was born in the name of Bangladesh then how Islam can be a base for uniting 58 states?

    Pakistan is member of UN, recognized by all states of the world including Afghanistan, then how can you call it Punjab? Punjab or Baluchistan are not the names of any country otherwise Pakistanis can respond by creating Tajikistan, Pashtunistan, Uzbekistan , Turkmenistan and Balochistan within Afghansitan.

    Turkey is not in Europe. Only a part of a city is in Europe. Europe has its standards and once Turkey fulfills those conditions no one will bar Turkey to be part of EU.
    Religion is not the base of EU otherwise many Christian African countries can become its members.

    India can be a better example for economic unity than a unity between Somalia and Afghanistan. Geopgraphy between Afghansitan with Pakistan, India come first than thinking about the chain of countries from Morocco to Indonesia. In between many Non Muslim countries like India, Thailand, Sri lanka, Armenia, Ethiopia etc also come.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      Think about kurds, baloch and even Pashtuns in Pakistan. There is even worse examples but these will do.
      My point is uniting under one country will eventually erase culture and language and Pakistan is a good example.

      I personally don't want to unite all Islamic countries under one country, but rather unite them under an Islamic union just like EU.

      Each individual country can have their own culture, teach their own language and have their own army/police. Yet, because of the union we will not have borders, there will be free trade and any person from an Islamic country can became citizen in another Islamic country.

      This way we will be united and still have independence.

      Another thing I am not trying to offend you, but you are the reason why people wont even consider an unified Islamic countries.
      A moment ago you said, you will use an Afghan flag as toilet paper... If one cannot respect his own country, his own people, then he deserve no respect at all. You basically contradict yourself...
      Pakistan and Turkey are two secular Western creations just like Syria, Iraq and others alike.

      The problem of a marxist nationalist seperatist Kurdistan did not exist before. It is a product of secularism and nationalism that replaced Islam in the ME.

      Baloch as a minority have a similar case as the Kurds.

      You are using the negative consequences of secularism and nationalism to object against Khilafah.

      Saying that people dislike Islamic unity because I compare flags with toilet paper is like makeenmaseed on PF saying he left Islam because of me.

      People are led astray due to their own moral corruption. Not because of me or anybody else.

      If a person dislikes khilafah because I compare a flag with toilet paper it means that that particular person is a kaafir for replacing the love for Islam with love for a flag.

      Khilafah is part of Islam. Not wanting it for whatever reason is disbelief.

      I just say things to prove my point. These people are all kufar. Thats why they worship a nationalist symbol.

      Every sensible person understands that i am not really planning to wipe myself with the flag.

      So all this drama is just comedy.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #33


        This is the real flag of Afghanistan

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        • #34
          Do you feel that it's background should remain black even in peace time?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by کیش View Post


            This is the real flag of Afghanistan
            More like the flag of the Taliban LOL!
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #36
              While. Your bin baaz and al albani where kissing saudi ass and your saudi daddies where joining hands with british island monkeys , ghazi amanullah khan was fighting the british .

              I know why you hate afghanistan ( you refer your self khurusani ) and pashtuns while you love their enemies and foreigners.

              You know if you hate afghans and pashtuns and afghan history sooo much , just stay in holland live off wellfare and stay quiet , you turkmen-tajoke farsisaban troll have no right to talk about afghan heros .

              Unlike your mullah omar or dirty ass arabs amanullah khan didnt need help of saudis or pakistanis who their self are american and british vasal states and who only want to have people under theirself even they ate the lowest of the low .

              You are not a muslim but an american loving liar and bigott .

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              • #37
                Amanullah Khan was a student of Kemal Atta Turk, the enemy of Islam. Another teacher of Amanullah Khan was Mahmood Tarzi, the Illuminati British spy.

                Amanullah Khan himself never even fired a gun at the British and used noble tribal people and when he achieved his goal he sold out our brothers to the British just like his grand dad Abdurrahman Khan did.

                Who ever loves Amanullah Khan and the stupid flag is against Islam and unification of Pashtuns. Because this flag and Amanulah Khan are the nails on the cofin of greater Afghanistan.
                Originally posted by Firdousi
                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                  the flag represents the land and its people. If you compare it to toilet paper, you can't be having very high regards for the land or the people.
                  While we are at it, how dare you call me a hippie and a secularist one too?? And I happen to have remembered how our first argument in this forum ended so I will leave you with a sore ego that will leave you suffering for the next ten years if you don't mind what you say to me from now on.
                  what do you have a jinn or something? No wonder you don't like the sharia!

                  Your a hippie because you want there to be peace and security without a realistic strategy or a practical law/constitution/ standard of norms like a hippie.

                  Your a secularist because you believe in the separation of the Masjid and state.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                    While. Your bin baaz and al albani where kissing saudi ass and your saudi daddies where joining hands with british island monkeys , ghazi amanullah khan was fighting the british .

                    I know why you hate afghanistan ( you refer your self khurusani ) and pashtuns while you love their enemies and foreigners.

                    You know if you hate afghans and pashtuns and afghan history sooo much , just stay in holland live off wellfare and stay quiet , you turkmen-tajoke farsisaban troll have no right to talk about afghan heros .

                    Unlike your mullah omar or dirty ass arabs amanullah khan didnt need help of saudis or pakistanis who their self are american and british vasal states and who only want to have people under theirself even they ate the lowest of the low .

                    You are not a muslim but an american loving liar and bigott .
                    I swear pashtun forum is the funniest forum on the internet, its one of the only forums that you can deviate history and nobody calls you out on it but rather thanks you and celebrates your posts.

                    you need to remember this verse

                    [49:13] Saheeh International
                    O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                      More like the flag of the Taliban LOL!
                      That just goes to show how little you know about true Islam. Lol!!!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Khorosani View Post
                        what do you have a jinn or something? No wonder you don't like the sharia!

                        Your a hippie because you want there to be peace and security without a realistic strategy or a practical law/constitution/ standard of norms like a hippie.

                        Your a secularist because you believe in the separation of the Masjid and state.
                        actually, you are right. hippie because i refuse to live with a rusted mind full of fungus, living with the same old "strategies" that have failed the society over and over again due to the pattern of limited thinking and believing anything that isn't already in practice or has not been tried before is unrealistic and a secularist because according to you, anyone who allows themselves the liberty to think for them self and decide not to be ruled over by failures who not only are incapable of coming up with new ideas but also refuse to allow others the freedom to live according to their own values, either.
                        heck, i would rather be shot dead on spot than be found in agreement or associating myself with the likes of you, anyhow.

                        ...so, i don't know where you got the urge to call me a free thinker from but thank you very much. have a nice day now.

                        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                          In the other hand if countries like Pakistan exist who oppress and who try to erase culture/language of other people, then Islamic unity will never happen.
                          countries do not erase the culture of the people, it is the people themselves who forget where they belong from.
                          Za REHMAN da aagha ilm a pannah ghwarham…
                          Che la deena la mazhaba wee sewa…

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                            actually, you are right. hippie because i refuse to live with a rusted mind full of fungus, living with the same old "strategies" that have failed the society over and over again due to the pattern of limited thinking and believing anything that isn't already in practice or has not been tried before is unrealistic and a secularist because according to you, anyone who allows themselves the liberty to think for them self and decide not to be ruled over by failures who not only are incapable of coming up with new ideas but also refuse to allow others the freedom to live according to their own values, either.
                            heck, i would rather be shot dead on spot than be found in agreement or associating myself with the likes of you, anyhow.

                            ...so, i don't know where you got the urge to call me a free thinker from but thank you very much. have a nice day now.
                            Everybody is a free thinker, being a free thinker doesn't mean you are a smart one.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              I think i am going to order toilet paper from china in black red and green colour from china. A whole container of it.
                              This flag has the shahada and takbir written on it, toilet paper!? Astaghfirullah

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tor_khan View Post

                                @Ahmad Abdul-Rahimzai - look at the flag again. I can't see why you are confusing it with Christianity.
                                Look at my post again. I can't see why your confused.

                                The first flag I posted is the fake flag made by a group in Europe which has a cross on both pillars of the mosque in the emblem. It has spread throughout the Internet and many people don't realize that its not the official flag. The official flag used by the Karzai government doesn't have any cross on it.

                                The whole point of the thread was to get information about this and the REAL flags of previous governments, I can't be the only person who noticed this here.

                                Maybe we have seen so many flags come and go in our lifetime that we don't care anymore or we don't want to hear about it, but ignorance can't be bliss forever.


                                OFFICIAL FLAG



                                FAKE FLAG



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