The Pashtunization of Pakistani Punjabis

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

oh and punjabi, you cant even communicate in pashto. Mufti Abu Zar Birmi of TTP speaks better Pashto than you do.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

impeccable trolling my man

Na na bhaijana

just showing right place to a shia influenced tajik

[Bengal_Tiger]

[QUOTE=Da Bannu Mazdigar;704357]

Lol not Pakistanis but TTP and other terrorist groups.They are not Pakistani or may be not anymore similar like the bengali are no more pakistanis?

Yes the death rate in karachi is huge and again that is not since the Re formation of Pakistan in 1947 but since less than a decade before.
But do you know the population of karachi is more than 20millions or more like 70% or above the total population of afghanistan combined

Such internal problems exist.i hate mahajirs but i admire mahajirs like our Dear COAS Kiyani the Boss to be replaced by Tariq Khan in near future



sectarian violence.nothing to do with ethnicities.And this happen in almost every muslim countries.where either of them is minority.


yes the hazara shia.not the hindko hazara but the real hazara of central asia and afghanistan.

as i said earlier this has more to do with sectarian violence


Whether you know or not but i study in Abbottabad.having friends from battagaram.i was discussing the potential hazara province with him.All he said neither we nor the kohistani would ever merge into hazara province.he said abbasin division would be created soon.
the abbasin division include torghar,kohistan,battagram and parts of mansehra
this means the remaining hazara division/potential province would be of abbottabad,half mansehra and smaller haripur.this is equal to an average size city.let them create such an small province for them.

in return our demand for merging pashtun majority cities of balochistan into kpk with the formation of greater kpk will get stronger and eventually A greater KPK will be formed upto the kalat city of balochistan by absorbing 55% of today balochistan into greater kpk making it the largest province of Pakistan.




really?what is your username in def.pk?
other than this pakistan is a diverse country with 180million population and everyone is entitled to his opinion.

brainwashed?you are a bengali.may be this is a enough insult to you.Though i respect majority of Bengali people as they do have some influence of Martial race aka the pakistanis

A pashtun is a pashtun neither a shia influenced like majority of afghan pashtuns nor a sunni influenced Pakistani pashtun



Pakistan is bound to get stronger and stronger.



i can show you such videos of afghan cutting the throats of each other.does it mean afghan are divided?

every tribe even within the pashtuns are to some extent divided.but for a external threat they are one.

we pakistani let suppose even if are divided.for a external threat we are united.

remember the last time afghan checkposts were bombed by local tribes close to the border for killing a Pashtun FC

1. Pakistan is a country with two insurgencies, i.e. it is a country at war.

One of these wars is a separatist war for freedom by Balochis.

2. Pakistan has at least 1 million internal refugees maybe 2 or more.

3. Pakistan has less in its foreign reserve than even war-torn Afghanistan, $5 billion as of now (if I'm correct).

4. The federation of Pakistan has been broken before, when Bengalis won their freedom in 1971 it can break again.

Last year the former prime minister spoke about organizing a referendum for Balochi independence.

5. The federation is facing electricity shortages, two wars (militants and Balochi nationalists), debt, political instability and many other problems. The federation is far from stable.

Even yesterday, the federation saw its biggest city and commercial centre and main port closed, shut down in a strike.

6. There is violence and terrorism all around the federation including the massacres of Shias.

The Shia-Sunni violence of the 90s initiated by Sipah i Sahaba is unique to Pakistan and not found in other places such as Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi, Yemen etc where there are big Sunni and Shia populations.

There maybe discontent, political instability but no Shias killing Sunnis vice versa (though that is the case in Iraq, but that is due to the American agenda of destabilizing Iraq).

7. Afghanistan is older than Pakistan, which is younger than the Coca Cola company. I have met Afghans and I have met Pakistanis and the ethnic differences between Afghans is far less than between Pakistanis.

There are various reasons for this.

8. Defence.pk is a hate site where a "Bangladesh" subforum exists controlled by razakars, Jamaatis and war-criminal supporters.

Go to other Bangladeshi forums or go to a random Youtube video and you will see Bangladeshis as a whole hate war-criminals and Jamaatis.

There have even been calls for defence.pk to be banned in Bangladesh.

The individual that created defence.pk also created a forum called "Pashtuns forum". A Punjabi creating a forum for Pashtuns?

Imagine Admin Khan, a Pakhtoon, started a forum called "Punjabis forum"?

Defence.pk is also full of low-quality uneducated people like uber-nationalistic Pakistani "journalist", Jana who says things such as "Pakistani Pashtuns don't say "Pashtun" as they exclusively say sheen not kha like Afghans".

What nonsense!

Pashtuns of Pakistan say both kha and sheen, Pashtun and Pakhtun depending on the region and dialect.

How can anyone take a circus like defence.pk seriously?

9. "Pakistanis" kill each other every day in Karachi and it is not comparable to Pashtun/Afghan tribal feuds (badal) because that happens now and again and due to an event or cause, killings in Karachi are daily and are motivated by ethnic politics.

Sindhi nationalists have threatened war if Karachi is made a separate province.

I could go on and on.

At the end of the day whether Pakistan survives or not is up to Allah ta'ala (I personally pray that this British-created state which has killed and raped more Muslims than Israel is destroyed and broken up) and in the future Pakistan could become a south Asian version of Japan, a successful economic state.

However you seem to be totally blind to the unfortunate realities of the "Land of the pure".


Anyway Punjabis are not becoming Pashtunized in Pakistan. They are not speaking or writing in Pashto, Pashtuns are in fact forgetting how to write in their own mother tongue.

Pashtuns are losing their language and homes in "Pakistan" (land of the pure) with over 1 million Pashtun refugees in Pakistan.

Waziris have lost their homes and their ability to write in their mother language.



Pashtuns losing their homes and language in "Pakistan" ("land of the pure").

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

You are the one who keeps saying a.s

It seems you are loosing your temper now. First you said farsi is a shia language.

When I pointed out that your national anthem and even the name of your country is farsi, you quickly changed your tactic and started speaking more garbage.

It seems you are a spineless slave of Punjab.

Kabuli = Khurasan. Khurasan is where the army of the Muslims will be when "Hind" will be conqured. You are a Hindi. So you are going to be conquered by Khurasani Muslim army.

I am not influenced by punjabi but i do respect them more than shia farwand like you.

as i said earlier.Pakistan can justify persian as we have 40 millions shia in Pakistan.what about you?

if i had to choose between a shia farsiwand and a sunni punjabi.i will choose the sunni punjabi

but even if i had to choose between a sunni farsiwant and a shia punjabi.i will choose the sunni farsiwand.

but if i have to choose between a shia influenced sunni kabuli and a shia farsiwand than i will choose the shia farsiwand as atleast unlike kabuli they are not playing the double game

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

oh and punjabi, you cant even communicate in pashto. Mufti Abu Zar Birmi of TTP speaks better Pashto than you do.

and you can?lol

may be you have forgotten pashto because of the shia influence like karzai who cant even speak proper pashto

[DSM0305]

and you can?lol

may be you have forgotten pashto because of the shia influence like karzai who cant even speak proper pashto

If I wanted to kill myself I'd climb your ego and jump to your IQ

[Smarty]

[MENTION=10678]Da Bannu Mazdigar[/MENTION]
Instead of dancing to Pashto music and stuffing their stomachs with pashtun food, it could have been better if punjabis had adopted the regularity in nimaz and fasting from pashtuns.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

[MENTION=10678]Da Bannu Mazdigar[/MENTION]
Instead of dancing to Pashto music and stuffing their stomachs with pashtun food, it could have been better if punjabis had adopted the regularity in nimaz and fasting from pashtuns.

Pathan janay ramzan janay

[Smarty]

I must insist it is useless talks, who is getting punjabized or who is getting persianizd, this blame games and rediculing each other has made us laughing stock for others. The forum is reeking of racism and name callings. Too much nationalism is harmful and is not encouraged in islam.

[rednwhite99]

Though this is said in humour, there is a degree of truth in this.

Prior to the artificial entity that is called "Pakistan", the "Punjabi Muslims" never had any:

- Independent state
- Strong identity
- Strong literary tradition

Both the Pashtuns/Afghans and Sikhs had all three of the above, which the Punjabi "Muslims" did not.

However with the British creating Pakistan and Punjabis taking over, the Punjabi "Muslim" has his first - and probably only ever - taste of the limelight.

In the future Pakistan will probably collapse and Punjabi "Muslims" will at the least abandon militarism and have their own Punjabi state concerned with making money, or they will once again revert to being satellites of Pashtuns and/or others.

lol..pakistan will collapse and bngladesh will become new york isnt it??...in 1971 banghladesh seperated n thats the best moment in pakistans history.. dnt wrry abt pshtuns punjbis sindhis hindkos....worry abt bengalis bhalo bhashy

[M17ArnoBaloch]

...in 1971 banghladesh seperated n thats the best moment in pakistans history..

in 2014 balochistan will seperate n that will also be best moment in pakistans history..

[Bengal_Tiger]

in 2014 balochistan will seperate n that will also be best moment in pakistans history..

1. Balochi freedom will be good news for all Muslims and for humanity in general, as the world will see a people escape from oppression.

2. Bangladesh since 1971 has been much better and Bangladesh is making laptops, DVD players, motor bikes, ships, smartphones and soon cars.

We have on average 6% economic growth per year, and our foreign reserve is about $16 billion, Pakistan's is three times less at aroun $5 billion.

However Balochistan can become more prosperous than Bangladesh in a shorter time as Balochistan is resource rich (oil, gas, minerals) and with a small population.

Hopefully Bangladesh and Balochistan will become good allies and friends as two brother Muslim countries.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Balochistan will not become independent because Balochistan does not have a leader and Baloch are internally divided and weak. Besides there are many Balochis who are sell outs. They serve the interests of the highest bidder.

What Balochistan needs is a new generation of leaders. Away with the old one. Less tribalism and less srcularism. More unity and long term goals.

[M17ArnoBaloch]

Balochistan will not become independent because Balochistan does not have a leader and Baloch are internally divided and weak. Besides there are many Balochis who are sell outs. They serve the interests of the highest bidder.

What Balochistan needs is a new generation of leaders. Away with the old one. Less tribalism and less srcularism. More unity and long term goals.

[rednwhite99]

in 2014 balochistan will seperate n that will also be best moment in pakistans history..

LOL..not all the balochs in balochistan are like u ..the balochs who are protesting are like those sikhs who are sitting in uk and crying for khalistan movement. Same goes for balochs who want freedom are the ones that are sitting in UK and crying for freedom.
So mate first come to balochistan and then talk abt freedom and if more than half of balochs in balochistan vote against pakistan in a proper election kind of thing not under the bugty sardar where they are afraid of the sardars, then i dont think we have any reason to keep balochistan but if balochs in balochistan vote for pakistan in such an election and that is carried out fairly (m pretty sure the brainwashed ones are less or are in foreign countries.) then the balochs like u in uk or other foregn countries should be banned to come to other cities of pakistan. Raise money and make a new airport for urself in any corner of balochistan where u guys have support and then land there not in islamabad peshawar karachy..
Or ask balochs like jamali, zardary and leghary what they did for u guys and wht did bugty do for u ..