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    WARNING GRAPHIC: "Taliban" torturing a man because of Shujai's crimes

    This is a video where allegedly Taliban fighters are torturing a Hazara from Norway and accusing him of working for the Hazara warlord Shujai.


    WARNING GRAPHIC


    Initially it looked like its a set up, but after further examination I have concluded that the torture is real. The question is, who are the men torturing him? Are they Taliban or local people not necessarily associated with the Taliban?

    The people from Uruzgan are known for wearing big turbans. So anybody could be seen as Taliban.

    However, if you pay close attention, the guy in beige clothes is wearing an extremely short tunic. Taliban are very strict with regards to dress code. Men are not suppose to wear short tunics.

    The guy in black clothes is wearing his trousers below his ancles. As we all know, Taliban, being the strict deobandis that they are, do not wear their trousers below their ankles.

    Likewise, it doesn't make sense for the Taliban to make a video like this.

    One wonders what benefit they see in making this video and then distributing it around?

    From a PR perspective, this will only harm them.

    What do you think?
    Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 09-01-2013, 04:24 PM.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
    Tags: crimes, graphic, man, shujai, taliban, torturing, warning
  • #2
    The guy says that he only took a picture with Shujai and he is by no means supporting him.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #3
      Why do you care about hazaras? Worry about what the taliban will do to your own people Mr. Tajik.
      "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

      -Old Pashtun proverb




      "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
        Why do you care about hazaras? Worry about what the taliban will do to your own people Mr. Tajik.
        I care for justice.

        Shujai killing and torturing Pashtuns does not mean we should go and beat up people like this.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Bokhdinews website has a farsi article on this man.

          http://www.bokhdinews.com/human-rights/14679-%25D8%25B4%25DA%25A9%25D9%2586%25D8%25AC%25D9%2587-%25DB%258C%25DA%25A9-%25D8%25B4%25D9%2587%25D8%25B1%25D9%2588%25D9%2586%25D8%25AF-%25D9%2586%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D9%2588%25DA%2598%25DB%258C-%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B2-%25D8%25B3%25D9%2588%25DB%258C-%25D8%25B7%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25A8%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586-%25D8%25AF%25D8%25B1-%25D9%2588%25D9%2584%25D8%25A7%25DB%258C%25D8%25AA-%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25B2%25DA%25AF%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            More on the Hazara warlord Shujai http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2013/08/25...-arrest-shujai
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              I think you should be more worried about your tajik warlord Atta who wants to prosecutes Pashtuns in the north.
              "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

              -Old Pashtun proverb




              "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                Why do you care about hazaras? Worry about what the taliban will do to your own people Mr. Tajik.
                The Tajik from Balkh who can't speak Pashto is calling an Ahmadzai from Paktia a Tajik
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  The Tajik from Balkh who can't speak Pashto is calling an Ahmadzai from Paktia a Tajik
                  Not surprised you come to the defense of this bloke.

                  His mother is a tajik and he identifies himself as a tajik. Oh and i am Pashtun from Balkh city, funny thing is that this is coming the uzbek looking pashtun like someone on here said about you LOL.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                    Not surprised you come to the defense of this bloke.

                    His mother is a tajik and he identifies himself as a tajik. Oh and i am Pashtun from Balkh city, funny thing is that this is coming the uzbek looking pashtun like someone on here said about you LOL.


                    Even if he identified himself was Zibabwean his dad being Babakar Khel makes him Pashtun and he speaks Pashto really well.

                    You can't even compose a full sentence of Pashto without botching it up completely.

                    AND you're from an Area predominantly TAJIK. Who is more likely to be a Tajik Pashtun wannabe? a guy from an area predomiantly Tajik area and suffered massive repression by Pashtuns ....or a guy who actually is from the pashtunj heartland and legit connection to Pashtuns? It's pretty clear.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kushan
                      , funny thing is that this is coming the uzbek looking pashtun like someone on here said about you LOL.

                      You're not even Pashtun so that's not even an insult.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        Even if he identified himself was Zibabwean his dad being Babakar Khel makes him Pashtun and he speaks Pashto really well.

                        You can't even compose a full sentence of Pashto without botching it up completely.

                        AND you're from an Area predominantly TAJIK. Who is more likely to be a Tajik Pashtun wannabe? a guy from an area predomiantly Tajik area and suffered massive repression by Pashtuns ....or a guy who actually is from the pashtunj heartland and legit connection to Pashtuns? It's pretty clear.
                        Balkh district is actually mostly Pashtun along with Chahar Bolak. It's only mazar that is mostly tajik. I don't expect a brain dead Yemeni like yourself to know that Abdur Rahman settled tons of Pashtuns in the north. And how do you know his father is a babakarkhel, do you stalk him or something?
                        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                        -Old Pashtun proverb




                        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          Balkh district is actually mostly Pashtun along with Chahar Bolak. It's only mazar that is mostly tajik. I don't expect a brain dead Yemeni like yourself to know that Abdur Rahman settled tons of Pashtuns in the north. And how do you know his father is a babakarkhel, do you stalk him or something?


                          That's total b.s. you're from a Tajik region; you're a Tajik; the end; that's all I need to know. stop posing because you have an inferiority complex. You're the conquered, not the conqueror
                          Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 09-03-2013, 12:24 AM.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            That's total b.s. you're from a Tajik region; you're a Tajik; the end; that's all I need to know. stop posing because you have an inferiority complex. You're the conquered, not the conqueror
                            LOL this is coming from the guy who is from Ghazni, which has a lot of Hazaras. Wait why am i even arguing with you over this guy? He's a damm nobody.
                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                            -Old Pashtun proverb




                            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                            • #15
                              Most districts of Ghazni are Pashtun populated. Only an illiterate or an ignorant person would claim otherwise.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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