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  • Why The Kuffar Brought Us Nationalism?

    Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 08-31-2013, 09:03 AM.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    Do you even know what nationalism is? And even more importantly, can you define nationalism for me.
    From my point of view you hate the word nationalism. To be honest you just post random stuff that indicate hatred toward nationalism, but you haven't actually ever defined nationalism. Which making me assume that you hate it not for any particular reason, but for the sole purpose to be apart of something. Basically you just jump in the bandwagon.
    Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

    People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

    ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
    Ronald Reagan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

    Pashto dictionary:
    http://thepashto.com/index.php

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
      Do you even know what nationalism is? And even more importantly, can you define nationalism for me.
      From my point of view you hate the word nationalism. To be honest you just post random stuff that indicate hatred toward nationalism, but you haven't actually ever defined nationalism. Which making me assume that you hate it not for any particular reason, but for the sole purpose to be apart of something. Basically you just jump in the bandwagon.
      You are just emotional like every other nationalist.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
        Do you even know what nationalism is? And even more importantly, can you define nationalism for me.
        From my point of view you hate the word nationalism. To be honest you just post random stuff that indicate hatred toward nationalism, but you haven't actually ever defined nationalism. Which making me assume that you hate it not for any particular reason, but for the sole purpose to be apart of something. Basically you just jump in the bandwagon.
        Yes I know, no one can define nationalism except nationalists themselves,no one understands nationalism except nationalists, blah blah etc. Our Prophet referred to nationalism on many occasions [search hadith on asabiyyah]. Lets all dress up as women and go dance and wave flags in the street with a horde of greasy moustached men in red topis, only THEN will we truly reach the level of understanding that DSM has achieved.
        * if you do know what I'm referencing above you dont want to know

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
          You are just emotional like every other nationalist.
          I am not emotional, I simply asked you a question which you apparently ignored.
          I am not an ignorant person, what I seek is knowledge and I asked you a question to understand you and your intentions.
          As I said before from my point of view it seems like you just jumping on the bandwagon. It simply because wherever I see these kind of posts they never make it clear what defines nationalism.
          I personally don't describe myself as anything solely because I act depending on the logic.
          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
          Ronald Reagan

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

          Pashto dictionary:
          http://thepashto.com/index.php

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
            I am not emotional, I simply asked you a question which you apparently ignored.
            I am not an ignorant person, what I seek is knowledge and I asked you a question to understand you and your intentions.
            As I said before from my point of view it seems like you just jumping on the bandwagon. It simply because wherever I see these kind of posts they never make it clear what defines nationalism.
            I personally don't describe myself as anything solely because I act depending on the logic.
            You didnt really ask a question. You answered your questions with your own assumptions about me.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shabi Khel View Post
              Yes I know, no one can define nationalism except nationalists themselves,no one understands nationalism except nationalists, blah blah etc. Our Prophet referred to nationalism on many occasions [search hadith on asabiyyah]. Lets all dress up as women and go dance and wave flags in the street with a horde of greasy moustached men in red topis, only THEN will we truly reach the level of understanding that DSM has achieved.
              * if you do know what I'm referencing above you dont want to know
              First of all I don't know you, so if you even have a little honor then speak with some manners. Secondly read the Quran and understand it before you even speak. Your manners and your way of speaking to others are far from what our prophet have taught us. So next you write to me, make sure you have completed your school, since what you wrote is incomprehensible and directly hypocritical.
              And for the second part of what you wrote, I to be honest didn't get what you were referring to nor did I get the point of it, and even more importantly why my username was in the same context as that. I don't know what part of the world you are from and nor do I care what kind of kinky stuff you do with your family, but whatever you do, do not involve me in your family business.
              Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

              People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

              ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
              Ronald Reagan

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

              Pashto dictionary:
              http://thepashto.com/index.php

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                You didnt really ask a question. You answered your questions with your own assumptions about me.
                I was simply implying what other people and me may think of you, if you don't define something before declining it.
                Simply put, how would I know if I can agree or disagree with you, if I don't know what you are referring to.
                That is why I asked you to define nationalism, because otherwise people will think you just jumping on the bandwagon.
                Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

                People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

                ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
                Ronald Reagan

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

                Pashto dictionary:
                http://thepashto.com/index.php

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                  I was simply implying what other people and me may think of you, if you don't define something before declining it.
                  Simply put, how would I know if I can agree or disagree with you, if I don't know what you are referring to.
                  That is why I asked you to define nationalism, because otherwise people will think you just jumping on the bandwagon.
                  nationalism devides people into nations while Islam says we are all one Ummah.

                  maybe you are confusing patriotism and loving your own country with nationalism , i find these two to be different things.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                    Do you even know what nationalism is? And even more importantly, can you define nationalism for me.
                    From my point of view you hate the word nationalism. To be honest you just post random stuff that indicate hatred toward nationalism, but you haven't actually ever defined nationalism. Which making me assume that you hate it not for any particular reason, but for the sole purpose to be apart of something. Basically you just jump in the bandwagon.
                    I dont have any problem with being nationalistic. As long as we dont harm anyone else. Nationalism to me means loving oners culture, language and history and ensure to propogate the same in your next generation. For exmaple, i am proud of being a pathan, but that should not stop me from being unjust to others. I dont think i am better than Tajiks or punjabies, but i will make sure that they dont harm the pathans
                    What really drives me hazy is it me or are the others crazy

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                      First of all I don't know you, so if you even have a little honor then speak with some manners. Secondly read the Quran and understand it before you even speak. Your manners and your way of speaking to others are far from what our prophet have taught us. So next you write to me, make sure you have completed your school, since what you wrote is incomprehensible and directly hypocritical.
                      You don't want to know me, I can assure you of that.
                      Originally posted by DSM0305
                      for the second part of what you wrote, I to be honest didn't get what you were referring to nor did I get the point of it, and even more importantly why my username was in the same context as that. I don't know what part of the world you are from and nor do I care what kind of kinky stuff you do with your family, but whatever you do, do not involve me in your family business.
                      Sample of what I was referencing -> www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgX1su7ilR0
                      Beyond that, all that other rubbish you wasted your energy typing, I think you need to log off, you're far too sensitive and intolerant to opposing ideas to be playing on the Internet.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tiger Khan View Post
                        I dont have any problem with being nationalistic. As long as we dont harm anyone else. Nationalism to me means loving oners culture, language and history and ensure to propogate the same in your next generation. For exmaple, i am proud of being a pathan, but that should not stop me from being unjust to others. I dont think i am better than Tajiks or punjabies, but i will make sure that they dont harm the pathans
                        Hint: anyone who claims himself as "pathan" is hardly Pashtun. The mere fact alone that someone refers to himself as a pathan is testament to the fact that this man was not raised in Pashtun tribal culture but in Pakistani "national" culture. Majority of people in south Waziristan that have never left tribal areas aren't even familiar with the term.

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                        • #13
                          I don't think you can overuse the word "kuffar" much more then you already do.
                          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                          -Old Pashtun proverb




                          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                          • #14
                            Why are so weak that Kuffar do what ever they want to do with you. They bring you nationalism, secularism. They intervene in your lands. They introduce democracy in your countries. They bring you modern education, their dress, culture, fashion, language every thing and you like a child just weep, cry , whine, complain, ask questions like this! You are so miserable and pitiable. All my condolences may kindly be accepted.

                            Even the language you use here is the language of Kuffar and the computer you are using is an invention of Kuffar. What you have to offer instead? fatwas of declaring others kuffar, complaining against Kuffar, sectarianism, terrorism and extremism. What else you have?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                              Why are so weak that Kuffar do what ever they want to do with you. They bring you nationalism, secularism. They intervene in your lands. They introduce democracy in your countries. They bring you modern education, their dress, culture, fashion, language every thing and you like a child just weep, cry , whine, complain, ask questions like this! You are so miserable and pitiable. All my condolences may kindly be accepted.

                              Even the language you use here is the language of Kuffar and the computer you are using is an invention of Kuffar. What you have to offer instead? fatwas of declaring others kuffar, complaining against Kuffar, sectarianism, terrorism and extremism. What else you have?
                              Its because we have too many munafiqeen like you who serve as mules to carry your masters into our land and spread corruption.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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