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  • #61
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    Yet you believe in fantastic stuff you have not seen but you doubt the words of Nabi sal allahu alayhi wasalam because it doesnt seem realistic to you?




    In Islam, generally we differentiate between the linguistic and the shar'i definition of words.

    Linguistically, yes you have commited acts of deception. Deceiving comes from lack of faith and fear of Allah.

    Shari'i dajjal is a person who deceives people in matters of religion.
    1) I don't doubt the words of Nabi sal allahu alayhi wasalam, I just am not sure whether they (the Hadith) are actually his words, since no one can prove it.

    2) OK.

    3) I am a badman.

    4) OK.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by El Camello View Post
      1) I don't doubt the words of Nabi sal allahu alayhi wasalam, I just am not sure whether they (the Hadith) are actually his words, since no one can prove it.
      How can you prove that Quran is actually that what was revealed to Prophet sal allahu alayhi wasalam? How can you prove it?
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by کیش View Post
        My dad's mom did jado against us. She sent Jinns to my apartment to terrorize us for years. The Jinns stole thousands of dollaea from my sad. Most of my moms jewelry, and 300 of my rare dollar coins.My moms mom has been caught wetting the stair case so either my cousin or my aunt trip and hurt themselves. Sometimes she opens the door so pet birds could fly away and gey lost. Among others.
        The Jinns can't posses me. All they do is try to bother me.

        Jinns look like a shadow like figure. In case if you havent seen one before.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by کیش View Post
          The Jinns can't posses me. All they do is try to bother me.

          Jinns look like a shadow like figure. In case if you havent seen one before.
          Now you are talking to yourself and claiming you can't be possessed. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by کیش View Post
            My dad's mom did jado against us. She sent Jinns to my apartment to terrorize us for years. The Jinns stole thousands of dollaea from my sad. Most of my moms jewelry, and 300 of my rare dollar coins.My moms mom has been caught wetting the stair case so either my cousin or my aunt trip and hurt themselves. Sometimes she opens the door so pet birds could fly away and gey lost. Among others.
            That's so messed up, I don't even know what to say.

            I know that Jinns are real, so are ghosts, demons, spirits and others.

            What do you think of Lucumi/Santeria/PaloMonte/Mayombe/Vodun, etc.?
            A few people in Boricua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominicana believe in these old African/Yoruba religions.
            They believe that God doesn't intervene in our daily lives, so they look towards spirits/saints for guidance and help.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by کیش View Post
              The Jinns can't posses me. All they do is try to bother me.

              Jinns look like a shadow like figure. In case if you havent seen one before.
              Sometimes I used to think I was possessed, I used to be 3 different people.

              Now I am one.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                How can you prove that Quran is actually that what was revealed to Prophet sal allahu alayhi wasalam? How can you prove it?
                He was illiterate and uneducated so he couldn't have written it himself.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                  He was illiterate and uneducated so he couldn't have written it himself.
                  Written what exactly? What is it that we are talking about? What is your definition of what is the Qur'an?
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                    That's so messed up, I don't even know what to say.

                    I know that Jinns are real, so are ghosts, demons, spirits and others.

                    What do you think of Lucumi/Santeria/PaloMonte/Mayombe/Vodun, etc.?
                    A few people in Boricua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominicana believe in these old African/Yoruba religions.
                    They believe that God doesn't intervene in our daily lives, so they look towards spirits/saints for guidance and help.
                    Never heartd of them.

                    Mr. jealous Kafir caller,

                    I was adding more points to that post.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                      Written what exactly? What is it that we are talking about? What is your definition of what is the Qur'an?
                      The Qur`an!

                      I know the Prophet didn't write it all himself physically, the compilation took place later on but I meant the words of the Qur`an, the Prophet couldn't have possibly made them up if he was uneducated. The words of the Qur`an are clearly divinely inspired, so the Qur`an was indeed revealed to him by Allah.

                      My definition of the Qur`an is that it is the word of God as dictated to Mohammad.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        Never heartd of them.
                        It's what White people call "voodoo".

                        There are some Santeros in NY too.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                          The Qur`an!

                          I know the Prophet didn't write it all himself physically, the compilation took place later on but I meant the words of the Qur`an, the Prophet couldn't have possibly made them up if he was uneducated. The words of the Qur`an are clearly divinely inspired, so the Qur`an was indeed revealed to him by Allah.

                          My definition of the Qur`an is that it is the word of God as dictated to Mohammad.
                          How was the Quran compiled and by whom?
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            How was the Quran compiled and by whom?
                            I see where you're going with this

                            Early Muslims memorized the word of God as it was revealed to the Prophet, then it was later written down by scribes. The Prophet dictated the order of the verses to the scribes as new verses came along. The entire Qur`an was recorded during the Prophet's lifetime, but it wasn't in book form. After the death of the Prophet, Abu Bakr ordered to whole Qur`an to be recorded in one place. The Qur`an was later made easier for non-Arabs to read under the Caliph Usman.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Now you are talking to yourself and claiming you can't be possessed. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
                              if you have a strong will the jinns can't posess you. even if u are a transgressed person, if you are strong and have a strong will not to be possessed, no jinn no devil can even touch you. try it yourself. jinns are pussyy creatures, if you show them whos boss they wont harm you

                              Originally posted by El Camello View Post
                              That's so messed up, I don't even know what to say.

                              I know that Jinns are real, so are ghosts, demons, spirits and others.

                              What do you think of Lucumi/Santeria/PaloMonte/Mayombe/Vodun, etc.?
                              A few people in Boricua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominicana believe in these old African/Yoruba religions.
                              They believe that God doesn't intervene in our daily lives, so they look towards spirits/saints for guidance and help.
                              my grandpa used to play with the jinns. he tells me stories about how he used to play with his friends. and one night when he was with his friends on a marriage ceremony somewhere near kandahar, he told me that one of his friends used to become tall all of a sudden and become short all of a sudden, like boom tall! and boom back to normal! he said all his friends saw it and at that time they were all kids so they didnt think it was abnormal and they were kids, untill now he realised that it was jinns. also he said that they never used to talk, if you talk to them they would never respond and keep quiet, jinns kids.

                              also i was possesed by a "little jinn" when i was a kid. its a long story. they are real and i can tell many stories about them.

                              @Khurasani

                              good ole khurasani testing el camilo on islam lol
                              جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
                              G wa tra Baloch , Balochistan Zindabad

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                              • #75
                                you are brainwashed too


                                before the foundation of israel arabs and jews lived peacefully together
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