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    The man lay on the floor beneath colored quilts, his leg in a homemade splint tied with rags. He says he was attacked by ethnic Uzbek fighters, and he is just one of hundreds of Pashtun villagers who say that Uzbek troops are looting, raping and kidnapping under the guise of disarming Pashtuns in northern Afghanistan.

    ''They beat me with a wooden club and they stabbed my leg two times with the bayonet of a rifle,'' said the man, Mohammedin, 30. ''I fainted and fell down and they smashed my leg with the club.''

    He said he was beaten by two Uzbeks whom he knew by sight, Commander Wali Jan and Commander Ali, after he refused to give them money they had demanded.

    Both are from Faryab Province, where his own village, Chilgazi, lies, and are commanders under Abdul Rashid Dostum, an Uzbek general who is the main ally of American forces against the Taliban in northern Afghanistan.

    Thousands of Pashtuns from the provinces of Balkh and Faryab have fled their villages in recent weeks, as news has spread of the punitive raids the Uzbeks have been conducting. They have abandoned their homes and moved their families west into the area controlled by the Tajik commander Ismail Khan, who appears to be treating the Pashtuns more fairly.





    The combined forces of the Northern Alliance conducted a disarmament campaign in Pashtun villages in December, particularly in areas where Taliban fighters were thought to be still active. But General Dostum's troops have continued the operation into areas where there remained little apparent threat by the Taliban, and villagers are complaining that the Uzbeks are using the opportunity to loot and extort money and even empty the area of Pashtuns altogether.

    Approximately one million Pashtuns live in northern Afghanistan scattered across most of the northern provinces, and concentrated around the two agricultural cities of Balkh and Kunduz. The largest ethnic group in Afghanistan, they are a minority in the north, but enjoyed great security under the Taliban, since it was a Pashtun-dominated movement. Since the Taliban's fall, they have become victims of reprisals from ethnic groups who suffered under the Taliban.

    Amir Jan Naseri, the Pashtun governor of the town of Balkh, which lies just west of the northern capital, Mazar-i-Sharif, said he has been receiving a constant stream of villagers and elders with complaints since mid-December. During a recent interview in his home in Mazar-i-Sharif, he produced a written list of villages that have been subjected to violence, mostly by Uzbek troops, but also by troops of another ethnic minority, the Hazara.

    ''It is all marked here,'' he said. ''Twenty-five days ago they attacked the village of Qara Barga in Chemtal district. Twenty-two people were killed. They killed and looted houses, cars, tractors, carpets, windows and they kidnapped seven girls. You can go and check.''

    ''Yangi Qala, three people were killed, all of the homes looted, nothing left. Qare Nausharotaki, completely looted.'' He read on down the list. ''Qare Kakrak, the women. . .'' and suddenly he stopped. ''No, I cannot tell you about this,'' he said, folding up the list. For Pashtuns, the rape of their women is a shame that can never be mentioned.

    Farther west, Pashtun villagers said alarming stories of girls being kidnapped and women being raped and thrown down wells made them leave. In Chilgazi, Mr. Mohammedin said, families hired a truck to flee to this town in the neighboring province of Badghis. Only a few men remained in the village, among them Mohammedin and his elderly father, Sher Mohammed.

    The men who stayed behind said that when the Uzbek soldiers came they looted the whole village, taking even the doors and window frames from houses. Mr. Mohammedin said the soldiers took his family's stock of wheat and hay. After the attack, the few men who had stayed behind fled here.

    The villagers said the Uzbeks had not come to disarm them, but appeared to be trying to scare the Pashtuns into leaving the region forever. ''We did not have any weapons because the Taliban had already disarmed us,'' said the village headman, Abdul Mohammed. ''They do not like Pashtuns. They say this is Turkestan and Pashtuns should not live here.''

    The Uzbeks are a Turkic people, and together with the Turkmens, Tajiks and Hazaras, dominate Afghanistan's north. Pashtuns in the region readily admit that other ethnic groups suffered under the Taliban.

    ''The Taliban did not treat the Uzbeks well, but that was not our problem, that was the Taliban,'' said Turjan, 35, a Pashtun driver, who said that Uzbek soldiers stole his truck in the village of Ghormach. ''No one was Taliban in our village. If we were, why did we not escape with the Taliban?''

    [United Nations officials in Herat said they had raised objections over the behavior of the Uzbek troops with the central government in Kabul, which in turn raised the issue with General Dostum. Now deputy defense minister, General Dostum issued a statement saying his troops were working to ensure security. United Nations officials said they hoped it was a sign that he would put an end to the worst violence.]

    The Tajik governor of one district in Badghis confirmed the Pashtun complaints. He said Uzbek forces took control of his district for 15 days after the Taliban had left and before he had returned from exile. ''They killed six Pashtuns and took one girl and they looted,'' he said. Now they have gone back to Faryab province and his own men are in charge, he said.


  • #2
    Uzbeks should go back to their country honestly. They seem to be causing more problems to pashtuns along with their tajik brethren's who very racist. They have no history in afghanistan and the north was NEVER considered turkestan.
    "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

    -Old Pashtun proverb




    "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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    • #3
      Uzbeks have a history in the North. Only a small fraction of them are immigrants. But then again, Pashtuns are immmigrants as well in the north. Stop being such a fascist Kushan Prince.
      Originally posted by Firdousi
      Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
        Uzbeks have a history in the North. Only a small fraction of them are immigrants. But then again, Pashtuns are immmigrants as well in the north. Stop being such a fascist Kushan Prince.
        Umm no they don't have any history in the north. Uzbeks didn't arrive in Afghanistan until the 1880's. My family is from the north and nobody sees us immigrants there.

        stop trolling please.
        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

        -Old Pashtun proverb




        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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        • #5
          Kushan Prince, what is your tribe?
          Originally posted by Firdousi
          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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          • #6
            ^That's none of your'e business.

            Worry about your own people Mr. tajik.
            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

            -Old Pashtun proverb




            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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            • #7
              Come on, please tell me. Lets see what you are made off.
              Originally posted by Firdousi
              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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              • #8
                Stop deriving the topic. You don't know anything.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #9
                  You diverted the subject by lying and saying all uzbeks are immigrants and then you lied by claiming Pashtuns are not immigrants in the north. I asked you to which tribe you belong from the north and you are avoiding to answer me. Do you have something to hide?
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #10
                    first of all his tribe is AFGHAN AKA PASHTUN , he has got every right to call mazar , badakhshan or any part of afghanistan his own !

                    AFGHAN =PASHTUN

                    today it means more than just pashtun
                    but the core meaning is AFGHAN = PASHTUN

                    really funny , how to are against tribalism and NATIONALISM if it is about our own national interessts and integrity .

                    but how fast you change and ask what TRIBE , you dont even use the proper afghan word for it QAUM but tribe ,which is not a proper translation at all , if it is to defend Arabs , uzbeks and daal eaters and other trash .

                    as if they would have any right to be in afghanistan .lol

                    you are not even funny .

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                    • #11
                      Uzbeks and Tajiks have a big conflict and hate even outside Afghanistan.
                      Mainly on Samarqand and Bukhara.
                      Even their presidents, whom i both dislike, have been fighting some 2-3 times. Once Nursultan Nazarbaev has diveded them.
                      If you would know a bit of russian you could see how many hate postings you find on the internet between both people.
                      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                      Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                      • #12
                        By knowing his tribe we know where his anvestors originally from. There are no native Pashtuns in Mazar. The rest of your usual rant doesnt even need a response.



                        Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                        first of all his tribe is AFGHAN AKA PASHTUN , he has got every right to call mazar , badakhshan or any part of afghanistan his own !

                        AFGHAN =PASHTUN

                        today it means more than just pashtun
                        but the core meaning is AFGHAN = PASHTUN

                        really funny , how to are against tribalism and NATIONALISM if it is about our own national interessts and integrity .

                        but how fast you change and ask what TRIBE , you dont even use the proper afghan word for it QAUM but tribe ,which is not a proper translation at all , if it is to defend Arabs , uzbeks and daal eaters and other trash .

                        as if they would have any right to be in afghanistan .lol

                        you are not even funny .
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #13
                          That news is very old. I think from 2003 or 2004. Things have changed

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                            first of all his tribe is AFGHAN AKA PASHTUN , he has got every right to call mazar , badakhshan or any part of afghanistan his own !

                            AFGHAN =PASHTUN

                            today it means more than just pashtun
                            but the core meaning is AFGHAN = PASHTUN

                            really funny , how to are against tribalism and NATIONALISM if it is about our own national interessts and integrity .

                            but how fast you change and ask what TRIBE , you dont even use the proper afghan word for it QAUM but tribe ,which is not a proper translation at all , if it is to defend Arabs , uzbeks and daal eaters and other trash .

                            as if they would have any right to be in afghanistan .lol

                            you are not even funny .
                            Well said bro.

                            This guy always comes to the defense of non pashtuns and rants on how he hates nationalism and tribalism. What a bore.
                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                            -Old Pashtun proverb




                            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                            • #15
                              its from 2002
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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