Afghanistan burning of schools

[BarakzaiAbdali]

1 - Wrora did that really happend or did the reporter try to make that up? after all it was him that said it without any proof.

2 - when was this interview or aljazeera programe? was it AJ arabic or english? was it one of those AJ special series?

thats because it was already a business to some in the military indutrial complex.

This was in that famous Refsdahl documentary called "Behind the Masks." with Commander Dauran.

Taliban - Behind the Masks - 26 minute documentary - trailer - YouTube

Refsdal actually was blasted in the Western media by people like Anderson Cooper for being "sympathetic to the Taliban."

He tried his best to be an honest broker.

Its at the end of that documentary, where he is embedded with Commander Dauran, discusses how Dauran's wife and children were killed and then he goes on to discuss the issue with your Omar.

But even then, he acknowledges earlier on that Omar was a very very good fighter and its not that Dauran didnt want him on the team, its just that he was hard to control.

He also makes it clear that at the end when Dauran insisted, Omar let him go.

But I think it was a reliable documentary, dont you?

I tried to find the other Al jazeera documentary, and it actually also had Dauran in it and shows him forgiving a lot of young ANA soldiers he captured etc and riding in the back of a truck he captured. I will look again and see if I can find it.


And I agree with you, I am not saying AT ALL that Westerners can use this as justification to stay. My point was that they complain about radicalization, Islamicization etc. But at the end of the day, their very hand and very actions are causing these things to exacerbate.

Every Army has this sort of issue too. Even the Americans, with their technology and rigorous criteria/books/manuals don't all observe protocol in their 200,000 man army.

So I actually think its unfair to expect a guerilla movement to have complete control lock step over every single person. In some of these units you will have jassussaan, less well trained people, older people, younger people etc. Its natural that these differences may express themselves.

And also not every insurgent is Talib, some of them are Hizbe etc.

[khushal]

Refsdal actually was blasted in the Western media by people like Anderson Cooper for being "sympathetic to the Taliban."

He tried his best to be an honest broker.

That whole sympathetic label is emotional black mail. it is designed to cover the truth from being spread. Any one who humanizes the enemy will be blasted for it. Look how Jesse is attacked when he talks against torture. I mean it doesn't take a genius to realize that torture is wrong.
http://www.pashtunforums.com/hujra/38222.htm

[khushal]

This report says that its done by addicts and thieves:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...hed/index.html

[khushal]

http://protectingeducation.org/news/...ions-committee

Afghanistan’s report does not, however, acknowledge that schools have also been used for military and police purposes, such as bases, checkpoints, and barracks—a practice that has been shown to disproportionately affect girls and women negatively.[2] The presence of military actors in schools, and the resulting shift in gender balance, often discourage parents from sending their girls to such schools. In addition to concerns that parents might have for both boys and girls due to the risk of belligerent forces attacking the armed force or armed group inside the school, parents of daughters may additionally fear the possibility of their children becoming victims of gender or sexual based violence, or being subject to sexual harassment.[3] Moreover, when the security force using a school keeps toilet and sanitation facilities for their own use, it can discourage school attendance by girls, particularly girls following puberty. [4]

FURTHER READING:

During the reporting period, international military forces, Afghan National Security Forces, national and local police, and opposition Taliban militants have all used schools for military purposes, including as bases, firing positions, and detention centers.

Also this was the Taliban reason for not having enough girl schools during their time.

The last decade has seen a tremendous increase in the number of educational institutions in Afghanistan, and women have benefited from this substantially. However, as Afghanistan’s report acknowledges, one of the most important reasons for girls’ low attendance in some areas of the country is lack of security

[khushal]

Adnan Rashid also wrote in the letter to malala that the army uses schools as military installations and when the TTP attacks them, the army tells the media that the TTP are attacking schools and here is the proof.

what happened to the old school style wars when opposing armies met each other in the battle field(maidon). Today you have opposing sides hide in schools, bomb indiscriminately from planes, use suicide bombers, call innocents collateral damage dehumanizing the victim, etc. The world has lost its ghyrat.

[MostafaM]

Lack of security in Kandahar was the problem?

People left their shops open to go to prayer and when they came back everything was still there and there was a lack of security?

Security was the only thing the Taliban provided in the best quality and quantity in the history of Afghanistan so that arguement is somehow not valid.

[khushal]

Lack of security in Kandahar was the problem?

People left their shops open to go to prayer and when they came back everything was still there and there was a lack of security?

Security was the only thing the Taliban provided in the best quality and quantity in the history of Afghanistan so that arguement is somehow not valid.

I was referring to the beginning of the regime, but later they were changing their stance.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ut-afghanistan

Myth #8. The Taliban were by far the worst government Afghanistan has ever had
A year after the Taliban seized power, I interviewed UN staff, foreign aid workers and Afghans in Kabul. The Taliban had softened their ban on girls' education and were turning a blind eye to the expansion of informal "home schools" in which thousands of girls were being taught in private flats. The medical faculty was about to re-open for women to teach midwives, nurses, and doctors since women patients could not be treated by men. The ban on women working outside the home was also lifted for war widows and other needy women.
Afghans recalled the first curbs on liberty were imposed by the mujahideen before the Taliban.

See the bold Mostafa, those same people are in power today that first brought in the bans. So the whole stance that the US is there to free shackled women are lies because their partners are referred in that last bolded sentence.

[khushal]

that whole banning girls education was a reaction to the rampant rapes and other abuses that were done to women and girls during the chaotic years 92-96 and it was done before the taliban.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I have female relatives who worked as teachers for girls during taliban in Kabul. I have no reason to doubttheir account of what taliban were like.