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    Sayyaf nominated as presidential candidate | Pajhwok Afghan News

    KABUL (PAN): Renowned jihadi leader Abdul Rab Rassoul Sayyaf would contest the presidential vote, with Qaseem Fahim and Mohammad Mohaqiq named as his running mates, a well-placed source said.
    The decision was taken at a meeting of the National Coalition of Afghanistan at the residence of Fahim on Monday evening. Water and Energy Minister Ismail Khan, Abdullah Abdullah, Younus Qanuni and other jihadi leaders attended.
    The nomination of Sayyaf was finalised and Fahim and Mohaqiq named as his deputies. Dr. Abdullah and Qanuni were asked to support the nominations, a member of the coalition said on condition of anonymity.
    But aides to Sayyaf and Mohaqiq said they were unaware of the decision. Abdullah refused to accept the decision and said it had to be endorsed by the coalition, the source said.
    myn/mud
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

  • #2
    Why cant the Taliban do an istishhaadi on him? He deserves it more than anybody else.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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    • #3
      Although I hate all Jahidis with passion and his dispatch won't be a bad thing ,you salafi got cheek to ask others people sons to die for your twisted ideology, while you yourself live in kaffirs country ,if you r so passionate and impatient for your 62 virgins then do it yourself .
      Last edited by Niazi; 07-16-2013, 08:50 PM.
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      • #4
        LOL this santa doesn't have a chance.

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        • #5
          i am calling it now, sayyaf will be president.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
            i am calling it now, sayyaf will be president.
            this must be the lamest joke ever.
            sayaf and his new gang are just regrouping ,they want to defend their hard earned dollars and stolen lands.

            sayaf and co should simply retire and do community work for a couple of years, that would be good treatement.

            they should also sign a statement saying that they will never take part in politics ever and give 87% of their wealth to the people.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
              this must be the lamest joke ever.
              sayaf and his new gang are just regrouping ,they want to defend their hard earned dollars and stolen lands.

              sayaf and co should simply retire and do community work for a couple of years, that would be good treatement.

              they should also sign a statement saying that they will never take part in politics ever and give 87% of their wealth to the people.
              not a joke, probably the most realistic scenario. he is close to karzai and close to his opposition, he is a pashtun with a well known name and power base. him being elected is far more realistic than another northern alliance figure or another karzai.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                If this article is true than it looks like the NA wants Sayaf and the US wants Ashraf Ghani. so its going to be between these two.

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                • #9
                  i don't think the west is naive enough to think that ashraf ghani has a chance. they should know that he has no power base and no real connections. he only got 3% of the votes last election.
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    In Ramadan quiet, Afghans jockey for post-Karzai era

                    KABUL (Reuters) - For the devout, the Islamic holy month of Ramadan is a time of prayer and introspection, but this year, for Afghanistan's warlords and powerbrokers, it is time to decide on a successor to President Hamid Karzai.

                    Gunmen-escorted convoys of armored cars race around Kabul toward the end of the day as politicians and other leaders gather for the ritual breaking of the Ramadan fast at dusk - and also to set aside rivalries and form alliances which they hope can take them to power in the divided and war-torn nation.

                    This week, Abdul Rab Rassoul Sayyaf, a former Islamist warlord reputed to have invited Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda to Afghanistan, was being spoken of as a consensus presidential candidate of an opposition alliance. Underscoring confusion, he was also being talked of as Karzai's preferred candidate, but neither rumor could be confirmed.

                    "Kabul is a cauldron of suspicion and rumor at the moment, which we expect will last throughout the elections period," said a top international community official in the Afghan capital, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of his position.


                    Elections are to be held on April 5 next year to replace Karzai, who came to power in 2001 after U.S.-led forces toppled the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban government. Karzai is not eligible to stand for a third term and his replacement will have to negotiate an end to the insurgency as Western troops leave after a 12-year war with the Islamic radicals.

                    Dismissing fears that the Taliban could sweep the nation after the withdrawal of foreign troops, many Afghans say the elections will be an essential part of bringing in peace.

                    With Washington seen as keen to push peace talks with the Islamist insurgents, any government in Kabul may have to reach a settlement with them or continue the war.

                    Ramadan ends around Aug 8 with Eid al-Fitr, Islam's biggest festival. Candidates for the elections will be registered between Sept 16-Oct 6.

                    Sayyaf, a white-bearded man in his sixties from the same majority Pashtun ethnic group as Karzai, was a much-feared leader of the mujahideen coalition that fought the Soviet Union's occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s. Later, he was one of few hardline Islamic commanders to oppose the Taliban as part of the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance.


                    Sayyaf, now a Kabul MP who presents himself as a voice of wisdom, has not commented on speculation he may stand for president. His supporters say Karzai often consults him, flying by helicopter to Sayyaf's home from his garden palace.

                    "Sayyaf is very influential and he is known to everyone. President Karzai and his deputies have met him twice at his residence to discuss important agendas," says Farhad Sediqi, also a Kabul MP who knows him well.

                    He could be a bridge between Islamists, ethnic Pashtuns and members of the government, trusted on all sides, although his appeal may be limited with voters weary of warlords, and women worried about a rollback of recent freedoms.

                    ALSO IN THE MIX

                    Other prominent names being talked of as potential presidential candidates also hark back to the anti-Soviet mujahideen era, including Atta Mohammad Noor, who commanded 20,000 Northern Alliance fighters.


                    But Noor, an ethnic Tajik with vast wealth and influence as Balkh province governor, may yet prefer to steer events rather than position himself as a presidential candidate.

                    Other ex-warlords retaining serious clout, like Uzbek General Abdul Rashid Dostum, Karzai's current Vice President Mohammed Qasim 'Marshal' Fahim and powerful Hazara leader Mohammad Mohaqiq are also likely to push forward candidates.

                    Karzai, a wily dealmaker despite occasional erratic behavior that infuriates even his supporters, has yet to anoint a preferred successor. His reticence lends support to a theory he may somehow try to extend his grip on power.

                    "We are very worried he will postpone the election, citing security worries, climate reasons or political reasons, which would be in breach of the constitution," said Amrullah Saleh, former head of Afghanistan's intelligence service and now a political opposition activist.

                    Behind closed doors, according to diplomats in the city, Karzai says "all the rights things" and shares their concern that not to leave on time would set a bad precedent for the country's fledgling democratic process.



                    Karzai's businessman brother Qayum is sometimes spoken of as a successor, although that risks signaling business as usual for both jaded Afghan voters and Western donors wanting change.

                    Other names in Karzai's inner circle include the urbane ambassador to Pakistan, Umer Daudzai, a former chief of staff who helped sway opponents to back Karzai in the 2009 elections.

                    Education Minister Farooq Wardak, powerful Finance Minister Omar Zakhilwal and Economy Minister Abdul Hadi Arghandiwal are seen as cabinet members likely to run.

                    Some of them could form alliances to form a president-vice president ticket.

                    For the international community, a popular president would be Ashraf Ghani, a former Karzai adviser and finance minister who heads Afghanistan's security transition body.

                    "At the end of the day there will likely be three agendas, the old, and the new and a conglomerate in between," says Faizullah Zaki, an adviser and spokesman for Dostum's Jabha-e-Milli party.

                    For Zaki, the old equates to Karzai's circle, while the new is the opposition coalition, while those in the middle are Ghani and some senior ministers yet to show their hand.

                    "There will be those supporting the incumbent agenda, there will be those wanting an alternative vision for the country beyond old ethnic rivalries, and there will be around a dozen in the middle with their own agenda," Zaki says.
                    Last edited by randolph85; 07-21-2013, 05:29 AM.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #11
                      as far as I understand from reading articles. The US has 3 potentials, Ghani, Karzai's brother and Khalilzaid. I very much doubt Khalilzaid can make it because of his lack of grassroots support and he will be considered more of an American than an afghan, he would be a complete failure.
                      Karzais brother would make it look more like a monarchy.
                      Ghani who is a Karzai family favorite and has been going around the country making a name for himself and would make it look like its truly democratic. he is currently the chairman for the institute for State effectiveness who with that position has been able to meet many of the local power brokers

                      In 2009 he came in fourth after Karzai, abdullahx2 and basherdost. but this time he is backed by the Karzai family and the US, also Abdullahx2 is out and basherdost does not have the money or the support of the US because the US feels that a non Pashtun would make thing s worse and unstable although he is a better choice than all of them.
                      Last edited by khushal; 07-21-2013, 05:47 AM.

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                      • #12
                        My favorite is ramazan bashardost. I really want him to win. Great man.
                        Originally posted by Firdousi
                        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                        • #13
                          Without any money bashardost came out 3th that means even with all the fraud he still got all those votes.
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                            not a joke, probably the most realistic scenario. he is close to karzai and close to his opposition, he is a pashtun with a well known name and power base. him being elected is far more realistic than another northern alliance figure or another karzai.
                            he is also a wahabi which has nothing to do with Afghan public.
                            Also he is a not as a big player as you make him to be.

                            he is in no way fit or acceptable for leadership neither does he have real back up. In most quarters of the country people wont like him.
                            even in his home town of paghman he is actively grabing people's lands.

                            i think they are doing this to revive the northern alliance as these guys arent putting down their weapons and are willing to defend their "hard earned" properties. Offcourse they need him because he is a "pashtun" , and they wont be labeled anti pashtun that way.

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                            • #15
                              Bashardost was the only guy to dare and go to Kunar to campagne.
                              he also didnt have a single bodyguard and went there in his little car.
                              thats why he also got votes from Kunar, the rest were too scared to go.

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