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    Dirty ISI Stalks Poor CIA, Again

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    A dirty program is underway in Afghanistan where poor elements within Pakistani religious groups are recruited to conduct senseless mass murders and bombings in Pakistani cities. Terror outposts in South Waziristan are used as conduits but the puppeteers hide inside outposts along the Afghan border.

    A Washington Post story today, titled, 'CIA and Pakistan locked in aggressive spy battles', accuses ISI of trying to penetrate CIA outposts inside Pakistan.

    The thrust is that Pakistan and ISI are paranoid and that the poor CIA agents are doing nothing wrong and yet are being harassed [remember the US media stories last year about Pakistan 'harassing' US diplomats? Well, now we're harassing CIA agents!].

    But there is, however, a self-serving half-sentence innocently buried in the 1,467-word report. This half-sentence is supposed to provide a reason for Pakistani suspicions.

    That half-line says, 'The CIA has repeatedly tried to penetrate the ISI and learn more about Pakistan's nuclear program.'

    That's all. The tone of the author of the report is that it is ok for the CIA to try to penetrate ISI and 'learn' about Pakistan's nuclear program but that it is wrong for the ISI to counter this unwarranted meddling and protect Pakistan's interests.

    Rest of the report is a sap story about how the bad ISI is trying to spy on CIA.

    This is not the first report of its kind published by the US media. There have been several stories like this during the past three years. They coincided with rising voices in Pakistan about CIA playing double games with Pakistan. In plain words, CIA has been deceiving Pakistan from the start of Washington's 2002 Afghan adventure, courting Pakistan while empowering anti-Pakistan forces in the region.

    This attack against ISI is part of an effort to drown out Pakistani complaints. The United States has shown that it is adept at managing media and info wars. Pakistan is no match.

    The truth is that ISI cooperated honestly with CIA after 9/11 but the Americans played a double game with Pakistan and turned the Afghan soil into 'Anti-Pakistan Central' and generally made life miserable for Pakistan and Pakistanis in their own neighborhood. And now when Washington's game is up the Americans are trying to atone for their sins through aid programs and generous public praise.

    Nevertheless, dirty American games against Pakistan continue unabated. Terrorists claiming to represent Pakistani Baloch continue to find safe havens in Kabul and Kandahar, and money and weapons continue to flow from Afghanistan to terrorists who use them to kill Pakistanis by the dozens. There is also a dirty program underway in Afghanistan where poor elements within Pakistani religious groups are recruited to conduct senseless mass murders and bombings in Pakistani cities. Terror outposts in South Waziristan are used as conduits but the puppeteers hide inside outposts along the Afghan border.



    These bombings are then linked to the Afghan Taliban and the Kashmiri groups. And if that doesn't fly the Americans and their allies inside the Pakistani government link the terrorists to low-level Pakistani sectarian groups in order to justify a military operation in areas of the Punjab province where pro-Kashmiri groups are based.

    The net result of all this is to pressure Pakistan into stopping the promotion of its vital interests in Afghanistan and Indian-occupied Kashmir.

    The list of Pakistani grievances against US activities in Afghanistan is long. Reports such as the one published by WashPost will not browbeat the Pakistanis and ISI into submission. They will only serve to make Pakistan more inhospitable for the US government than it is today.

    Here is the point that Washington's overt and covert media managers are missing: These kinds of reports might help you win international sympathy, but inside Pakistan each report like this one increases hostility for the US presence. For the first time in Pakistan's modern history, disapproval of US actions and presence has seeped into the upper echelons of the Pakistani ruling elite. This has never happened before. In the period between 2004 and 2010, Washington has probably lost all of the goodwill it created in this nation since our indepenedence in 1947. The reason is that Pakistanis can see through the fog of propaganda and no amount of WashPost and WSJ reports portraying CIA as the aggrieved party will do.

    To cut a long story short, US actions are so detrimental and hostile to Pakistani interests that their cumulative effect amounts to conducting a war against Pakistan in small parts and over an extended period of time.

    So while reading the story, remember this:

    1. The entire story complains about ISI but devotes only one innocent line to CIA's objectionable work inside Pakistan.

    2. Pakistan is right in viewing CIA's activities in Pakistan with suspicion considering how CIA cooperated with the Indians inside Afghanistan in supporting terror inside Puktunkhwa; Pakistan.

    3. CIA started the dirty games by empowering anti-Pakistan elements in Afghanistan after 2001 despite Pakistan's sincere and full cooperation.


    Post-script : American contradictions: A US think-tank with links to US government dubs Pakistan the world's most dangerous country and a failed state. At the same time a US newspaper publishes a mushy feel-good report on how US ambassador Anne Patterson is rushing through US cities to convince businessmen to invest in Pakistan. The irony is that while the Americans bomb Pakistan, they want their businessmen to invest here and not run away scared. Enough of this hypocrisy, Madam Patterson!


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    http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=3506

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  • #2
    Why do you post a man like Ahmed Quraishi? He has one of the most negative views in terms Pashtun interests and Afghanistan. He is also a liar and part of that nonsense report on Indian agents in Swat. Please Khushal khattak while you are at it, please post some glenn beck. Get all the crazies in together.
    http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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    • #3
      I know this. When the bearded morons of Pakistan have failed and have been exposed, the Pakistani establishment sough to create a team of seemingly liberal, happy and shaven group of people such as Zaid Hamid, Ahmed Qurayshi and Imran Khan to further their terrorist agenda. ZH and AQ are, along with Shahid Masood and all the Islamist in the world, the prime source of conspiracy theories. Imran Khan is a meek alternative to the real people's power.

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      • #4
        three questions?

        why is it in so many colours?
        why is it in this thread, its just a news(Well opinion).
        why all of your post have a warning sign in it?
        We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

        If I agree with you we w'd both be wrong.

        Be good, If you can't be good be lucky

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        • #5
          i think KKK supports the panjabistan establishment, he believes that something very impressive he is postuing, thats why he puts so many colors in there like primary school book you would love to read , the warning signe means he wants attentions, that His masters ISI is doing something good, so we sould all fall for it.

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          • #6
            ^*sighs*
            Two questions from you
            Can you prove ISI is his master?
            How will you feel if he answer on your behalf in the same demeaning way?
            We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

            If I agree with you we w'd both be wrong.

            Be good, If you can't be good be lucky

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eusuphxai View Post
              why is it in so many colours?
              why is it in this thread, its just a news(Well opinion).
              why all of your post have a warning sign in it?

              Black is the normal standard, Blue is the highlighted part, red was left red for the intro part.

              As for the the warning sign, I was going for the important read theme, so take it as important/attention not as danger.


              Originally posted by afghan View Post
              i think KKK supports the panjabistan establishment, he believes that something very impressive he is postuing, thats why he puts so many colors in there like primary school book you would love to read , the warning signe means he wants attentions, that His masters ISI is doing something good, so we sould all fall for it.
              Wow, thank you for all your love rora but what constructive response do you expect for that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by eusuphxai View Post
                ^*sighs*
                Two questions from you
                Can you prove ISI is his master?
                How will you feel if he answer on your behalf in the same demeaning way?
                i dont have to prove it, you will see from his posts, how all the ISI's actions are justified, blindly protects what ever panjabistan is doing to pashtuhns.
                the next answer i better stop protecting the enemies of my people.

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                • #9
                  I second Afghan. I dont know what is wrong with these Khattaks. I dont want to generalise but most of them I have come across are the loyal servants of the Punjabi empire. They dont want to hear or learn anything else even for a change other than the Ideology of Pakistan crap and ISPR propaganda. Alas on the real Khushall Khan Khattak..He must be lamenting in his grave.

                  If a Punjabi favours and advocates Pakistani banana state and the army and ISI it makes some sense as their vested interests are associated with it, I cannot understand for the life of me why would the servant be more loyal to the king than he is to himself and why would he not realise that he is royally screwed for being so loyal. That too for a Pakthun ,it is a shame for the whole Pakhtun nation.

                  KKK,Luffy,Sher Khan,S.O.M have some shame [nang] for your brave ancestors and stop advocating the murderers,looters of Pakhtun blood and resources.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by muhsina View Post
                    I second Afghan. I dont know what is wrong with these Khattaks. I dont want to generalise but most of them I have come across are the loyal servants of the Punjabi empire. They dont want to hear or learn anything else even for a change other than the Ideology of Pakistan crap and ISPR propaganda. Alas on the real Khushall Khan Khattak..He must be lamenting in his grave.

                    If a Punjabi favours and advocates Pakistani banana state and the army and ISI it makes some sense as their vested interests are associated with it, I cannot understand for the life of me why would the servant be more loyal to the king than he is to himself and why would he not realise that he is royally screwed for being so loyal. That too for a Pakthun ,it is a shame for the whole Pakhtun nation.

                    KKK,Luffy,Sher Khan,S.O.M have some shame [nang] for your brave ancestors and stop advocating the murderers,looters of Pakhtun blood and resources.
                    I wonder why a hindki is so worried about us?

                    If favouring Pakistan is surprising you then you should be worried about your own hindkowans who are the most loyal Pakistanis from the very begining.

                    I must say you are betraying your own nation (hindkowans). Focus your lectures on those who are chanting "lay k rehainge soba hazara".

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                    • #11
                      I have replied to this argument elsewhere but it dint sink in your left part of the brain. Let me repeat if it can benefit you [though highly unlikely]

                      I hate those hindkowans too who are loyal servants of the Punjabi empire [like you and your likes] not due to any ethnic problem but due to the fact that they dont resist the hegemoney and exploitation of the Punjabi elite.

                      About Soba Hazara,if you know the basics of parliamentary politics then you should realise that the PML motivated sellouts of three cities Haripur,Manshera,Abbotabad [none of them even have their indigenous names] can never have that much support vote in Parliament when 100 times more population of Pakhtuns got their province named after such a long struggle. This is unlike the demand for seraiki soba which is backed by the south Punjab. Every body knows that soba hazara gimmick was just a political game between PML Q and N.

                      BTW the hindkowans of Peshawar are not the same as those of Hazara as Peshawari Hindkowans are Afghans mostly or Central Asians Sayyids / Qureshis / Qazalbash who settled during the golden period of Peshawar when Peshawar was the winter capital of Afghan empire.

                      Now have some shame and stand for your rights against the Punjabi empire to safeguard the pride of your ancestors.
                      Last edited by Guest; 07-16-2010, 02:09 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Take a good look at this Pashtun

                        Ahmad Shuja Pasha - Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shlombay
                          Okay and your point? bro, you lack the intellect to debate with our professionals here.

                          like I told you before, if you want to learn I suggest you to bring your masters here so we can teach them a lesson instead. You ignored Nick,Ianus da bakhtaar, BLS, Aseer,Nadir Shah,Khyaal. Pir rokhan, Muhsina, Sangar, Timbaktu.

                          I can go on with the list of our intellects. PF has a lot of ammunition buddy this is not your regular pakistani forums, this site has a really high literacy rate.
                          who are they your tribal elders? you can't think on your own? I'm not suprised.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Army of Pakistan View Post
                            Take a good look at this Pashtun

                            Ahmad Shuja Pasha - Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)

                            O You Produce Of Mutaliya Pakistan, India has had two Moslem Presidents and it has a bigger population of Moslems than Pakistan, yet you call yourself the Fortress Of Islam and call the secular Indian Republic a bastion of Hindu Nationalism. You are a typical Pakistani hypocrite. Many Palestinian Arabs are members of the Isreali Knesset. Do you recognize Isreal? Many Moslems were members of the Indian National Congress and the JUH and totally hated the idea of Pakistan. What would you say to this?
                            Secondly, the Director General of ISI is a Pashtun, I know. What does that imply? What is your point here?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                              I wonder why a hindki is so worried about us?

                              If favouring Pakistan is surprising you then you should be worried about your own hindkowans who are the most loyal Pakistanis from the very begining.

                              I must say you are betraying your own nation (hindkowans). Focus your lectures on those who are chanting "lay k rehainge soba hazara".
                              hahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahah Luffy u r great to put forward her true ID
                              I was worried to read some of her posts but now i m clear in my idea about her on PF
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