Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Elections 2013

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Sometimes, I think some FBI guys really need in a know of the poison that you spread so they get the hell out your Akhwani bottom before you become a real threat to the great democracy and secular country---

LOOOOOL... Oh my goodness you really are hurting today arent you? I imagine a little violin playing in the background... Toramana with some soft kleenexes.. alot of tears about the degree of loss.

Toramana, are you involved in some big bellied corruption there? is that why you are so despondent?

Go ahead and collect all my posts since they are all here on PF. Every single one of them. Mail them to the FBI. I have no issues with them nor do they with me.

Its easy to collect the posts. Just click on the name BarakzaiAbdali and go to all posts and send the material directly to their email.

http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/

Soldat or perhaps Taj Andersen already tried it and the outcome was hilarious.

When we take up positions with the Department of Defense ala the Veterans Affairs Hospital System everything is checked on from our blood type down to our views. They know about everything from facebook accounts to email addresses etc. To lie on the applicatoin is to perjure one's self. SiiNii can confirm.

Nice try though.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Terror, corruption and the ANP - Imran Khan

Terror, corruption and the ANP


Imran Khan
Saturday, April 27, 2013
From Print Edition

The Awami National Party (ANP) began its campaign with the slogan ‘pur amn Pakistan’. However, in the aftermath of the attack on the Bilours of Peshawar, an unofficial slogan came to the fore and has since taken over – ‘watan ya kafan’ (country or shroud). This slogan sums up the ANP’s resolve.

One would assume that this would elicit praise from all quarters. But that is certainly not the case. Instead, there exists quite a strong sense of resentment. Polls indicate that, and my personal interactions corroborate it. By and large, the source of this resentment seems to be the ANP’s financial corruption.

This belief is mostly backed by anecdotes. And one particular line that is quoted as the ultimate proof is “Baba ta easy load ka”, alluding that during the ANP’s tenure bribing Haider Hoti’s father was necessary for getting things done.

Ironically, many of my friends who are utterly disgusted with the ANP’s corruption seem to have a different yardstick for their own financial integrity. One will claim a substantial inheritance from a father who was known for taking bribes. Another, a government servant, is infamous for not even pardoning relatives when it comes to ‘fees’. But then both are completely disgusted over Baba’s ‘easy loads’. And they have every right to be, because the hypocrisy of its critics should not absolve the ANP of its crimes.

It would be ridiculous to claim that the ANP government was not involved in any corruption, but by the same token it would also be naïve to rely just on anecdotes to associate it with corruption at unmatched levels. If the accusations are true and corruption that widespread in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, then some indicator somewhere should capture it – especially when compared with other provinces.


Transparency International Pakistan (TIP) is one such source. Its surveys for 2009 and 2010 provide estimates of the annual average provincial corruption expenditures. For both these years the sample from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa had one of the ‘lowest’ corruption expenditures among the four provinces. For 2009, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa averaged at Rs3,454, while Punjab was Rs19,959. For 2010, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was the ‘lowest’ among all provinces at Rs3,528, while the highest ie Punjab was at Rs17,791.

The TIP didn’t consider these estimates in its provincial corruption ranking for 2010, as it was based on perceptions. It focused on just one question; for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the respondents were asked if the present government – of the ANP – was more corrupt than the previous government of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA). But here’s the twist; for some odd reason TIP chose Peshawar, Mansehra, Abbottabad and Haripur as representative districts for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

An anti-ANP verdict from the Hazara division was inevitable, and this was presented as the perception of the whole province. This result was then used extensively in the media to label the ANP’s government as the most corrupt. I had written a more detailed piece on TIP’s methodology for its 2010 survey on these pages on June 9, 2010.

While the jury is still out on the ANP, let’s focus a bit on this national obsession with corruption. Yes, corruption is a huge problem in Pakistan, but does it really overshadow terrorism? Last year, Pakistan had a total of 652 bombings leading to 1,007 deaths, that means an average of two bombings and three deaths per day! And this was one of our better years.

Yet survey after survey confirms that Pakistan considers corruption to be a bigger problem than terrorism. This is akin to a cancer patient citing a common cold as his biggest ailment. The difference between corruption and terrorism should be obvious from their respective units of measurement – rupees for corruption and deaths for terrorism. How big a bribe can outweigh the death of one human?

If the ANP had followed the MMA’s path, today some of its top workers and leaders would still be alive. Instead it took on the biggest monster of our times, and paid dearly. Ironically, those who are so eager to bestow the title of ‘Pakhtun resistance’ on the Taliban refuse to even acknowledge this non-violent defiance. Those claiming ferocity of felines and natural disasters feign complete oblivion to a danger that threatens the very existence of their proposed ‘roshan’ and ‘naya’ Pakistan.

Opportunism seems to be the only apparent reasons for their silence. A convenient excuse is to declare the war against the Taliban to be ‘someone else’s war’. But while Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan may have their own interpretations, Hakeemullah Mehsud has made it clear that his war is against Pakistan. Whether it is ‘roshan’ or ‘naya’ will not make a difference.

Today the ANP has been left to fight a war for the survival and continuation of Pakistan’s democracy. After every bombing its battered leaders reiterate their demand for a timely election, one that their party is very likely to lose. This principled stance remains unappreciated by most Pakistanis.

Supporting the ANP doesn’t necessarily mean that one votes for it. Regardless of party affiliations the need is to provide a united front against the forces bent upon destabilising democracy in Pakistan.

For those who still think the ANP’s corruption doesn’t make it worth the effort, I propose the following calculation.

Step 1: Put a price on the life of a loved one; Step 2: Multiply that price by 700; Step 3: From this total subtract the biggest possible estimate for the ANP’s corruption (make it Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s entire budget if you may).

Let’s see if the remainder is positive or negative.

The writer is a freelance writer. He blogs at iopyne.wordpress.com and tweets @iopyne. Email: iopyne@gmail.com

You cant cite this article because it doesnt back your conspiracy theory. After all you are the one claiming Mahsud is in league with the ISI and Pak Army yet these two articles lay claim to the ANP as the most defensive against terrorism and for Pakistan's stability. You either have to pick with ANP being the "anti state" actor or Mahsud... you cannot have it both ways my pet Atheist ikhwani. You have a logic conundrum. If Mahsud is pro state and ANP is his adversary then it runs counter to the themes of the above. On the other hand, if the article is correct than Mahsud is anti state and ANP is preserving its integrity making it apparent that the TAC (tribal analysis center)'s critique of the party as an arm of the state is accurate.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Toramana, How are you feeling? I mean seriously?

- ANP's defeat according to me is due to their 'Non-Issue' Politics. I mean what they achieved was NO to Kalabagh Dam, which no one can ever build mark my words. Provincial Autonomy, Guys, the common man in KPK wants a piece of bread, mazdoori and electricity whether it's with or without Provincial autonomy. And last but not the least The provincial name I mean seriously that was an issue which needed to be addressed at once??

Let's agree that ANP was unable to deliver anything except in the Educational Sector. And which 'Quality Education' that will be is still debate-able.

Let's hope that the upcoming government will be addressing the core issues of the people of Pakhtunkhwa and Pakistan. - Ameen!

[Kushan Prince]

I call rigged on this election. This is the 2000 USA presidential elections all over again. I don't know how on earth Nawaz Shariff beat Imran Khan when he was clearly the underdog. Hard to believe he is trending on twitter right now. Although a part of me is glad IK didn't win because i cannot tolerate a Pakhtun being a slave to Pakistan.

[Michin Khel]

I call rigged on this election. This is the 2000 USA presidential elections all over again. I don't know how on earth Nawaz Shariff beat Imran Khan when he was clearly the underdog. Hard to believe he is trending on twitter right now. Although a part of me is glad IK didn't win because i cannot tolerate a Pakhtun being a slave to Pakistan.

You are not aware of the ground realities of Punjab, it was already clear that PML-N would win most of the seats from punjab. Unlike PTI, they had stretagy and are experienced politicians. In punjab there is "baradri" system, people vote for their own baradri e.g awans are dominant in khosab, so you have to chose candidate from awan community in that constituency. Nawaz shareef choose those candidates who had higher chances of winning, didnt bother if he was a landlord, chaudri or makhdoom. Pir etc....rural punjabis and rural sindhis are most backward people, mentally enslaved who even do sajda to their pir faqeers and politics there is like inheritance.
On the other hand there is no sardari or nawabi system in KPK, pashtuns are egalitarian and independant....they are agitated and want change..they are giving chances to one party after another...they need to realize that even a jahil punjabi has more role in making next PM of pakistan than educated pashtun.

and imran khan is not linguistically and culturally a pakhtun, he is not slave of pakistani, he is pakistani punjabi himself.

[Michin Khel]

Toramana, How are you feeling? I mean seriously?

- ANP's defeat according to me is due to their 'Non-Issue' Politics. I mean what they achieved was NO to Kalabagh Dam, which no one can ever build mark my words. Provincial Autonomy, Guys, the common man in KPK wants a piece of bread, mazdoori and electricity whether it's with or without Provincial autonomy. And last but not the least The provincial name I mean seriously that was an issue which needed to be addressed at once??

Let's agree that ANP was unable to deliver anything except in the Educational Sector. And which 'Quality Education' that will be is still debate-able.

Let's hope that the upcoming government will be addressing the core issues of the people of Pakhtunkhwa and Pakistan. - Ameen!

Also they were hot targets of Taliban. People must have been thinking if they themeselves are dying like chickens , how they are supposed to improve the situation of security in next governament?.....

If PTI fail to deliver, people of kpk would also reject them in next elections...........if they perform well and win the trust of pakhtuns of KPK , then pakhtun nationalism or religous politics would simply die...

What would be the stance of TTP against PTI?...lets see

[tor_khan]

Didn't capture mood is a major understatement, they couldn't even get a single NA seat. If you tell someone that a ruling party couldn't even capture a single seat they'd probably have a good idea of how poor that party's performance must have been.

As to why ? you only need to look at the last 5 years of their governance. Bilour himself said that people wanted change and they voted for it.

Check out the pattren of provincial governaments in KPK in last two decades,

In 1993- formed by Peoples party , a seculer mainstream party

In 1997- formed by muslim league , rightist mainstream party

In 2002- formed by MMA , religous parties

In 2008- Formed by ANP, seculer nationalist party

In 2013- It would be PTI.

It is clear that people of KPK want change and they kick out the party in governament in next elections who doesnt perform. On the other hand it is always PML in punjab, PPP in sindh and MQM in karachi no matter how much bad they perform...people of KPK want change but it is punjab who decides next PM...punjabis call us "khocha", "akhorat", "lalay", "dumb" "low IQ" "backward", "stupid", but they and sindhis are themeselves are very jahil, slaves of chaudris, wadairas, jagir-dars, pir faqeers....Punjabis humiliated very democratic bengalis and now they are doing same with pashtuns who are democratic and egalitarian by nature.

Lar pashtuns need to realize that it will always be punjab who will run and control pakistan.

Luffy makes a lot of sense; pretty much what I suspected.

[Adam]

New twist

[Admin Khan]

Check out the pattren of provincial governaments in KPK in last two decades,

In 1993- formed by Peoples party , a seculer mainstream party

In 1997- formed by muslim league , rightist mainstream party

In 2002- formed by MMA , religous parties

In 2008- Formed by ANP, seculer nationalist party

In 2013- It would be PTI.

It is clear that people of KPK want change and they kick out the party in governament in next elections who doesnt perform. On the other hand it is always PML in punjab, PPP in sindh and MQM in karachi no matter how much bad they perform...people of KPK want change but it is punjab who decides next PM...punjabis call us "khocha", "akhorat", "lalay", "dumb" "low IQ" "backward", "stupid", but they and sindhis are themeselves are very jahil, slaves of chaudris, wadairas, jagir-dars, pir faqeers....Punjabis humiliated very democratic bengalis and now they are doing same with pashtuns who are democratic and egalitarian by nature.

Lar pashtuns need to realize that it will always be punjab who will run and control pakistan.

Well said.

[Talal]

Actually there may be a big twist coming up, havent crunched the numbers but PMLN+QWP+JI+JUI/IND

these guys could make a coalition government in KPK

and in Balochistan its mostly gonna be PKMAP+PMLN coalition government

[Admin Khan]

So who wants to sum up what this Sharif guy is about? Does he plan to bring a 'change'?

[Talal]

So who wants to sum up what this Sharif guy is about? Does he plan to bring a 'change'?

The GOOD: He is an industrialist, has the capability to build and complete major infrastructure projects, has a good team of technocrats, has extremely good realtions with indians saudis and turks and a proponent of peace talks with TTP. With a majority government he may be able to do that

THE BAD: His biggest negative is his dynastic politics, a very very infelxible person his party is like a kingship, his past tenure was marred with corruption scandals. His stance on drones is unclear.


Look for this if you want to judge him;

In KPK he can easily form provincial government if he is willing with JUI-F (who are willing), but if he lets PTI form government there (who has majority but not outright majority) .. he might prove himself to be a better leader than Id have thought him to be.

[Michin Khel]

Actually there may be a big twist coming up, havent crunched the numbers but PMLN+QWP+JI+JUI/IND these guys could make a coalition government in KPK and in Balochistan its mostly gonna be PKMAP+PMLN coalition government

PTI can easily form governament if they win independant candidates but i dont think they would even make contacts with them. On the other hand nawaz would buy these independant candidates, may even convince JI who are always close to them. Though for some reason i feel Nawaz would let PTI to form governament in KPK.

[Manzareh]

PTI can easily form governament if they win independant candidates but i dont think they would even make contacts with them. On the other hand nawaz would buy these independant candidates, may even convince JI who are always close to them. Though for some reason i feel Nawaz would let PTI to form governament in KPK.

Lol @ buy the candidates, ridiculous but absolutely true. What is the problem with Pakistanis? Why is everything so unbelievably corrupt? Why can't there be a normal fair election without every single thing made into a drama *sigh*

[Talal]

its interesting every channel you switch to is saying how people in KPK have this revolutionary nature and they among all ethnicities in Pakistan elect irrespective of family or tribal connections. Im really proud of KPK, now the onus is on PTI to live up to their expectations.