Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Elections 2013

[Talal]

ANP chairman Asfandyar losing to JUI-F in his home constituency charsaddah

[Friend]

Where is Toramana ?

[Niazi]

Many Pakistanis on twitter saying that they'll never send Pathan texts again

Aaa agh ,so touching ,it's mean that Shahbaz khan won't get Akhrot joke on his Mobil anymore .

[tor_khan]

An honest analysis on why ANP didn't capture the mood in KPK would be welcome.

[Talal]

An honest analysis on why ANP didn't capture the mood in KPK would be welcome.

Didn't capture mood is a major understatement, they couldn't even get a single NA seat. If you tell someone that a ruling party couldn't even capture a single seat they'd probably have a good idea of how poor that party's performance must have been.

As to why ? you only need to look at the last 5 years of their governance. Bilour himself said that people wanted change and they voted for it.

[Toramana]

Didn't capture mood is a major understatement, they couldn't even get a single NA seat. If you tell someone that a ruling party couldn't even capture a single seat they'd probably have a good idea of how poor that party's performance must have been.

As to why ? you only need to look at the last 5 years of their governance. Bilour himself said that people wanted change and they voted for it.

PTI won with the help of TTP and Khakis. The rest of every thing about ANP performance is just a propaganda. Let us see how does PTI deliver on its promises---e.g.,

-shooting down the drones
-building Kalabagh Dam
-Making Hazara province
-putting an end to terrorism
-putting an end to load shedding
-blocking NATO supply routes
-creating jobs
-etc. etc.

[Toramana]

[BarakzaiAbdali]

PTI won with the help of TTP and Khakis. The rest of every thing about ANP performance is just a propaganda. Let us see how does PTI deliver on its promises---e.g.,

-shooting down the drones
-building Kalabagh Dam
-Making Hazara province
-putting an end to terrorism
-putting an end to load shedding
-blocking NATO supply routes
-creating jobs
-etc. etc.

Really? So the crushing defeat, even in ANP strongholds is a "conspiracy"? Is that how this is going to play out now? Bilour conceded and admitted the populace voted him out.

I was worried about you and was thinking that your heart must be broken. There is a condition called "broken heart syndrome" that actually is a stress induced heart condition... and I was worried that you were either on the verge of that or psychiatric decompensation.

[Talal]

@Toramana even ANP admitts they lost due to their piss poor performance

[Michin Khel]

Check out the pattren of provincial governaments in KPK in last two decades,

In 1993- formed by Peoples party , a seculer mainstream party

In 1997- formed by muslim league , rightist mainstream party

In 2002- formed by MMA , religous parties

In 2008- Formed by ANP, seculer nationalist party

In 2013- It would be PTI.

It is clear that people of KPK want change and they kick out the party in governament in next elections who doesnt perform. On the other hand it is always PML in punjab, PPP in sindh and MQM in karachi no matter how much bad they perform...people of KPK want change but it is punjab who decides next PM...punjabis call us "khocha", "akhorat", "lalay", "dumb" "low IQ" "backward", "stupid", but they and sindhis are themeselves are very jahil, slaves of chaudris, wadairas, jagir-dars, pir faqeers....Punjabis humiliated very democratic bengalis and now they are doing same with pashtuns who are democratic and egalitarian by nature.

Lar pashtuns need to realize that it will always be punjab who will run and control pakistan.

[Toramana]

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-173804-Terror-corruption-and-the-ANP

Terror, corruption and the ANP


Imran Khan
Saturday, April 27, 2013
From Print Edition

The Awami National Party (ANP) began its campaign with the slogan ‘pur amn Pakistan’. However, in the aftermath of the attack on the Bilours of Peshawar, an unofficial slogan came to the fore and has since taken over – ‘watan ya kafan’ (country or shroud). This slogan sums up the ANP’s resolve.

One would assume that this would elicit praise from all quarters. But that is certainly not the case. Instead, there exists quite a strong sense of resentment. Polls indicate that, and my personal interactions corroborate it. By and large, the source of this resentment seems to be the ANP’s financial corruption.

This belief is mostly backed by anecdotes. And one particular line that is quoted as the ultimate proof is “Baba ta easy load ka”, alluding that during the ANP’s tenure bribing Haider Hoti’s father was necessary for getting things done.

Ironically, many of my friends who are utterly disgusted with the ANP’s corruption seem to have a different yardstick for their own financial integrity. One will claim a substantial inheritance from a father who was known for taking bribes. Another, a government servant, is infamous for not even pardoning relatives when it comes to ‘fees’. But then both are completely disgusted over Baba’s ‘easy loads’. And they have every right to be, because the hypocrisy of its critics should not absolve the ANP of its crimes.

It would be ridiculous to claim that the ANP government was not involved in any corruption, but by the same token it would also be naïve to rely just on anecdotes to associate it with corruption at unmatched levels. If the accusations are true and corruption that widespread in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, then some indicator somewhere should capture it – especially when compared with other provinces.

Transparency International Pakistan (TIP) is one such source. Its surveys for 2009 and 2010 provide estimates of the annual average provincial corruption expenditures. For both these years the sample from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa had one of the ‘lowest’ corruption expenditures among the four provinces. For 2009, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa averaged at Rs3,454, while Punjab was Rs19,959. For 2010, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was the ‘lowest’ among all provinces at Rs3,528, while the highest ie Punjab was at Rs17,791.

The TIP didn’t consider these estimates in its provincial corruption ranking for 2010, as it was based on perceptions. It focused on just one question; for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the respondents were asked if the present government – of the ANP – was more corrupt than the previous government of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA). But here’s the twist; for some odd reason TIP chose Peshawar, Mansehra, Abbottabad and Haripur as representative districts for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

An anti-ANP verdict from the Hazara division was inevitable, and this was presented as the perception of the whole province. This result was then used extensively in the media to label the ANP’s government as the most corrupt. I had written a more detailed piece on TIP’s methodology for its 2010 survey on these pages on June 9, 2010.

While the jury is still out on the ANP, let’s focus a bit on this national obsession with corruption. Yes, corruption is a huge problem in Pakistan, but does it really overshadow terrorism? Last year, Pakistan had a total of 652 bombings leading to 1,007 deaths, that means an average of two bombings and three deaths per day! And this was one of our better years.

Yet survey after survey confirms that Pakistan considers corruption to be a bigger problem than terrorism. This is akin to a cancer patient citing a common cold as his biggest ailment. The difference between corruption and terrorism should be obvious from their respective units of measurement – rupees for corruption and deaths for terrorism. How big a bribe can outweigh the death of one human?

If the ANP had followed the MMA’s path, today some of its top workers and leaders would still be alive. Instead it took on the biggest monster of our times, and paid dearly. Ironically, those who are so eager to bestow the title of ‘Pakhtun resistance’ on the Taliban refuse to even acknowledge this non-violent defiance. Those claiming ferocity of felines and natural disasters feign complete oblivion to a danger that threatens the very existence of their proposed ‘roshan’ and ‘naya’ Pakistan.

Opportunism seems to be the only apparent reasons for their silence. A convenient excuse is to declare the war against the Taliban to be ‘someone else’s war’. But while Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan may have their own interpretations, Hakeemullah Mehsud has made it clear that his war is against Pakistan. Whether it is ‘roshan’ or ‘naya’ will not make a difference.

Today the ANP has been left to fight a war for the survival and continuation of Pakistan’s democracy. After every bombing its battered leaders reiterate their demand for a timely election, one that their party is very likely to lose. This principled stance remains unappreciated by most Pakistanis.

Supporting the ANP doesn’t necessarily mean that one votes for it. Regardless of party affiliations the need is to provide a united front against the forces bent upon destabilising democracy in Pakistan.

For those who still think the ANP’s corruption doesn’t make it worth the effort, I propose the following calculation.

Step 1: Put a price on the life of a loved one; Step 2: Multiply that price by 700; Step 3: From this total subtract the biggest possible estimate for the ANP’s corruption (make it Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s entire budget if you may).

Let’s see if the remainder is positive or negative.

The writer is a freelance writer. He blogs at iopyne.wordpress.com and tweets @iopyne. Email: iopyne@gmail.com

[Toramana]

Terror, corruption and the ANP - Imran Khan

Terror, corruption and the ANP


Imran Khan
Saturday, April 27, 2013
From Print Edition

The Awami National Party (ANP) began its campaign with the slogan ‘pur amn Pakistan’. However, in the aftermath of the attack on the Bilours of Peshawar, an unofficial slogan came to the fore and has since taken over – ‘watan ya kafan’ (country or shroud). This slogan sums up the ANP’s resolve.

One would assume that this would elicit praise from all quarters. But that is certainly not the case. Instead, there exists quite a strong sense of resentment. Polls indicate that, and my personal interactions corroborate it. By and large, the source of this resentment seems to be the ANP’s financial corruption.

This belief is mostly backed by anecdotes. And one particular line that is quoted as the ultimate proof is “Baba ta easy load ka”, alluding that during the ANP’s tenure bribing Haider Hoti’s father was necessary for getting things done.

Ironically, many of my friends who are utterly disgusted with the ANP’s corruption seem to have a different yardstick for their own financial integrity. One will claim a substantial inheritance from a father who was known for taking bribes. Another, a government servant, is infamous for not even pardoning relatives when it comes to ‘fees’. But then both are completely disgusted over Baba’s ‘easy loads’. And they have every right to be, because the hypocrisy of its critics should not absolve the ANP of its crimes.

It would be ridiculous to claim that the ANP government was not involved in any corruption, but by the same token it would also be naïve to rely just on anecdotes to associate it with corruption at unmatched levels. If the accusations are true and corruption that widespread in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, then some indicator somewhere should capture it – especially when compared with other provinces.


Transparency International Pakistan (TIP) is one such source. Its surveys for 2009 and 2010 provide estimates of the annual average provincial corruption expenditures. For both these years the sample from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa had one of the ‘lowest’ corruption expenditures among the four provinces. For 2009, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa averaged at Rs3,454, while Punjab was Rs19,959. For 2010, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was the ‘lowest’ among all provinces at Rs3,528, while the highest ie Punjab was at Rs17,791.

The TIP didn’t consider these estimates in its provincial corruption ranking for 2010, as it was based on perceptions. It focused on just one question; for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the respondents were asked if the present government – of the ANP – was more corrupt than the previous government of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA). But here’s the twist; for some odd reason TIP chose Peshawar, Mansehra, Abbottabad and Haripur as representative districts for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

An anti-ANP verdict from the Hazara division was inevitable, and this was presented as the perception of the whole province. This result was then used extensively in the media to label the ANP’s government as the most corrupt. I had written a more detailed piece on TIP’s methodology for its 2010 survey on these pages on June 9, 2010.

While the jury is still out on the ANP, let’s focus a bit on this national obsession with corruption. Yes, corruption is a huge problem in Pakistan, but does it really overshadow terrorism? Last year, Pakistan had a total of 652 bombings leading to 1,007 deaths, that means an average of two bombings and three deaths per day! And this was one of our better years.

Yet survey after survey confirms that Pakistan considers corruption to be a bigger problem than terrorism. This is akin to a cancer patient citing a common cold as his biggest ailment. The difference between corruption and terrorism should be obvious from their respective units of measurement – rupees for corruption and deaths for terrorism. How big a bribe can outweigh the death of one human?

If the ANP had followed the MMA’s path, today some of its top workers and leaders would still be alive. Instead it took on the biggest monster of our times, and paid dearly. Ironically, those who are so eager to bestow the title of ‘Pakhtun resistance’ on the Taliban refuse to even acknowledge this non-violent defiance. Those claiming ferocity of felines and natural disasters feign complete oblivion to a danger that threatens the very existence of their proposed ‘roshan’ and ‘naya’ Pakistan.

Opportunism seems to be the only apparent reasons for their silence. A convenient excuse is to declare the war against the Taliban to be ‘someone else’s war’. But while Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan may have their own interpretations, Hakeemullah Mehsud has made it clear that his war is against Pakistan. Whether it is ‘roshan’ or ‘naya’ will not make a difference.

Today the ANP has been left to fight a war for the survival and continuation of Pakistan’s democracy. After every bombing its battered leaders reiterate their demand for a timely election, one that their party is very likely to lose. This principled stance remains unappreciated by most Pakistanis.

Supporting the ANP doesn’t necessarily mean that one votes for it. Regardless of party affiliations the need is to provide a united front against the forces bent upon destabilising democracy in Pakistan.

For those who still think the ANP’s corruption doesn’t make it worth the effort, I propose the following calculation.

Step 1: Put a price on the life of a loved one; Step 2: Multiply that price by 700; Step 3: From this total subtract the biggest possible estimate for the ANP’s corruption (make it Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s entire budget if you may).

Let’s see if the remainder is positive or negative.

The writer is a freelance writer. He blogs at iopyne.wordpress.com and tweets @iopyne. Email: iopyne@gmail.com

[Toramana]

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[Toramana]

Really? So the crushing defeat, even in ANP strongholds is a "conspiracy"? Is that how this is going to play out now? Bilour conceded and admitted the populace voted him out.

I was worried about you and was thinking that your heart must be broken. There is a condition called "broken heart syndrome" that actually is a stress induced heart condition... and I was worried that you were either on the verge of that or psychiatric decompensation.

Sometimes, I think some FBI guys really need in a know of the poison that you spread so they get the hell out your Akhwani bottom before you become a real threat to the great democracy and secular country---

[gadoonwal]

The sindi nationalist oppose the kalbagh dam and punjab can,nt build up this.
ANP is a group of corrupt,oppertunist and thugs.
In 5 years they only serve their chaudry sahib in GHQ.
They done nothing for pashtuns.
Kalabag is just the slogan of anp cus they got nothing left to make fool of pashtun.

Kalabag dam is dead issue.
It was wali khan and asfandyar shake hands with nawaz sharif in the 90s.
Wali khan and asfandoyar called him the leader.
The same nawaz sharif was responsable for the destruction of afghan army.It was the leader of asfando whom once said afghanistan will be our fifth province.
DEATH TO ANP,PML-N AND OTHER ANTI-PASHTUN PARTIES.

Pashtun d,nt need the dogs of punjab.

A pashtun revolution do,nt defend on the result of pakistani election.
Let say ANP won all seats in pashtunkhwa so what will happen?
They will bring you more and more closer to lahor where asfando and hoti studied.Corruption will be on the rise.HOTI will waste the money of poor pakhtuns on women .Asfando will more money in malaysia.

DOWN WITH OPPERTUNISTS
DOWN WITH PAKISTANI ESTABLISHMENT
DOWN WITH PUNJABI MAFIA.
DOWN WITH THEIR LOYAL PASHTUNS TRAITERS.