Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Elections 2013

[Michin Khel]

^ Even ANP sat with MQM and enjoyed the ride for 5 years both in the federal as well as provincial government/cabinet. Now was ANP pro-establishment?

I don't know why people call Imran an ISI stooge for everything ISI stands for he condemns. He even spoke about reducing the defence budget.

ANP sat with PPP , PPP was their friend. Just because PPP made alliance with MQM doesnt mean ANP and MQM automatically becomes buddies. You live in karachi, you should be aware of ANP and MQM enemity.
I was hinting towards complete U-turn of Imran khan towards MQM, he was calling them killers and tried to involve scotland yard against them. Now he is calling them 'natural alliance'.
The whole media was showing imran khan's speeches against shiekh rasheed , he was calling him besharam and that he wouldnt keep him even as his chokidaar. Now they are hugging each other.
General pasha of ISI was main power behind sudden rise of imran khan, he was the one who was sending him all these lotas...ever since he is retired, PTI popularity graphs are going down.
Shehbaz you are intelligent but young fella of 20, 21. At that age i was shouting "pak fauj zindabad", "Qaid tera ahsaan he ahsaan" waghaira and used to paint my face green on 14th august. But with age eyes are opened. I never listened to these western e-afghans/pakhtuns who are quick to assisinate the soul of any pro-pak pakhtun without having any idea about consequences. I got awakened by first hand experiences and facts...it feels i am awakened from a dream and now i am living in a reality....patriotism is natural and i respect your patriotism but i am waiting for you shehbaz....a day will definately come, i dont know when.. But you would definately change your opinion about many things, you and me wont blow gas pipelines or military installations, we would work for betterment of pakhtuns and their rightful place in pakistan on our own terms...inshallah

[Shehbaz Khan]

And tell me you don't know about the enmity of PPP and MQM? and ANP and PPP? The enmity is just to make us fools. Tell me why would ANP with just two representatives from the whole Sindh sit in an alliance with MQM, money? What is it that they got in return except money for themselves?

Yes, Imran called them killers and natural alliance as well. You ever heard the complete statement in which he called them natural alliance? He was talking about the MQM on papers. Like they stand against Feudalism and this and that, so what Imran said was that if they quit their policies of terror in the city they are natural alliance? Getting the point? A friend of mine once commenting about the same thing said, that If I say that I will marry you if you change your sex from male to female does that make me gay?

Imran didn't have any lota in the October rally at Lahore, his first show of power, later many people joined him and they even left. And many old people left Imran because of it. The man was struggling in politics for more than a decade? Wasn't he, so if people started taking him seriously, you are saying that ISI is behind it. Just like ANP for the first time won the past elections? There was no ISI behind them, it was because a few factors favored them, and same is the case here a few factors are favoring Imran Khan. Don't you see those play cards in his rallies saying, We are not sent by the Establishment?

Yes, the moment Imran will start behaving like the rest of them I will be the first one to criticize him and bash him. But until than he deserves a chance. For as far as Lotas are concerned, each party has got the Lotas so the only comparison left is between the party leaders and Imran is way better than the rest.

[Tjanaparh]

Kalash community warns of polls boycott

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

3) He arranged marches against drones, you could have arranged one march against the other. Drone is our soveriegnity's issue when another state openly hits you and is smiling behind the desk.

Again you are missing the points gula!

Drone is your soveriegnity's issue and foreign terrorists living in Waziristan are not?
Drones are following those terrorists. Go against them, create people awareness regarding this critical issue by arranging long Marchs and public gatherings, but contrary to this you are labelling other parties and leaders who are speaking against them as "Pro U.S" and anti Islamic. Why are you showing one side of the picture?. Drone are hitting those terrorists who have violated your country's soveriegnity, if you have not allowed them or even now if you can expel them out of Waziristan there will be no drone attack

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ Oh, so there are foreign terrorists living in Waziristan, wait a second, the last time Army was doing an operation there you said they are killing innocent Pakhtuns.

PS: Ta chutti wala Mardan ki compaign start ka .. :P

[Toramana]

And tell me you don't know about the enmity of PPP and MQM? and ANP and PPP? The enmity is just to make us fools. Tell me why would ANP with just two representatives from the whole Sindh sit in an alliance with MQM, money? What is it that they got in return except money for themselves?

Yes, Imran called them killers and natural alliance as well. You ever heard the complete statement in which he called them natural alliance? He was talking about the MQM on papers. Like they stand against Feudalism and this and that, so what Imran said was that if they quit their policies of terror in the city they are natural alliance? Getting the point? A friend of mine once commenting about the same thing said, that If I say that I will marry you if you change your sex from male to female does that make me gay?

Imran didn't have any lota in the October rally at Lahore, his first show of power, later many people joined him and they even left. And many old people left Imran because of it. The man was struggling in politics for more than a decade? Wasn't he, so if people started taking him seriously, you are saying that ISI is behind it. Just like ANP for the first time won the past elections? There was no ISI behind them, it was because a few factors favored them, and same is the case here a few factors are favoring Imran Khan. Don't you see those play cards in his rallies saying, We are not sent by the Establishment?

Yes, the moment Imran will start behaving like the rest of them I will be the first one to criticize him and bash him. But until than he deserves a chance. For as far as Lotas are concerned, each party has got the Lotas so the only comparison left is between the party leaders and Imran is way better than the rest.

You sound more ridiculous, than you really are, with that argument. What changed in MQM between 2007 when Imran Khan went to Britian to lodge a case against Altaf Hussain whom he had declared a merciless killer (he also quoted the exact figure as how many Altaf killed) and 2013 when Imran Khan is trying to get hudgy-nudgy with Altaf no matter at what cost, principles, ideology, etc.

The plain fact is, nothing has changed in MQM. The only change that has occurred is that Imran Khan has taken a 180 degrees turn from his previous stance about MQM out of share political opportunism to make some electoral gains in Karachi.

By the way MQMs are smarter than Imran Khan when it comes to dirtier politics. MQM can milk Taleb Khan more than Taleb Khan can milk MQM.

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

^ Oh, so there are foreign terrorists living in Waziristan, wait a second, the last time Army was doing an operation there you said they are killing innocent Pakhtuns.

PS: Ta chutti wala Mardan ki compaign start ka .. :P

Army itself didn't want an operation there because they have given the terrorist (they call it good Taliban) safe heavens. And yea we are against the killing of innocent pakhtuns whether they are killed by the Drones, Army or the terrorists.

PS: Your Inqelabi leader need a compaign in Mardan mung ye baghair compaign na alta gatoo. BTW for your kind information the contest is between ANP and PMLN and ANP vs JUI on some seats while your PTI is out of the scene there...

[Friend]

Army itself didn't want an operation there because they have given the terrorist (they call it good Taliban) safe heavens. And yea we are against the killing of innocent pakhtuns whether they are killed by the Drones, Army or the terrorists.

PS: Your Inqelabi leader need a compaign in Mardan mung ye baghair compaign na alta gatoo. BTW for your kind information the contest is between ANP and PMLN and ANP vs JUI on some seats while your PTI is out of the scene there...

Well if there is any foriegn terrorist why your govt dont push army to operate against them rather than allowing others to voilate your soveriengty ? And it is very strange that you are supporter of ANP lol. ANP a protector of pak sarzameen shad bad hahaha....

[Shehbaz Khan]

Yousufzai Pakhtun: 29 out of 35 were new faces, last times I checked. It took you guys 65 years to bring your Red Flag to the Parliament .. We trust IK, and we are going to stand right beside him.

[Karachi]

ok since I am not in Pakistan, I really dont know about all the parties and I was never into politics, Can anyone tell me more about PMLN? what type of party is it? and are they popular? why do some people hate them? etc....

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Well if there is any foriegn terrorist why your govt dont push army to operate against them rather than allowing others to voilate your soveriengty ? And it is very strange that you are supporter of ANP lol. ANP a protector of pak sarzameen shad bad hahaha....

Do you think Parliament is powerfull enough in Pakistan who can dictate Army? My dear in pakistan Army has always had an upper hand. Army ruled over the country more than the civilians, and you didn't read my post where i said that Army is protecting those terrorists because they consider them good taliban and have given them safe heavens in Waziristan.

Why being a supporter of ANP is strange to you? explain please.....

[Yousafzai Pakhtun]

Yousufzai Pakhtun: 29 out of 35 were new faces, last times I checked. It took you guys 65 years to bring your Red Flag to the Parliament .. We trust IK, and we are going to stand right beside him.

Well my dear Red Flag was there even before the creation of Pakistan. The red shirts clean sweeped the founders of Pakistan in 1946.The province was ruled by the Red shirts when pakistan came into being and ever since ANP is a popular party here so stop joking. BTW oss baney ma' kawai chaghey mo wale wahaley che eke yawazey ba hakumat jorawo, daa domra asaney khabrey na dee....

[Michin Khel]

http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pak...st-near-ANP-ra

And

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-97...in-bomb-blast-

Soch wako che chata lara safa kezhi?.....ANP wal ba pa kor chaini awo khalak ba PTI wal makhuna weeni....It is a conspiracy theory of mine that as chances of PTI in ANP strongholds are weak, so ANP is getting hammered down and forced to sit in homes......ANP joined hands with establishment , installed largest Pakistani flag in Peshawar , started singing mili naghmay in its programs, all for its survival, yet they are not fully forgiven for their decades long previous anti-establishment history....another conspiracy theory of mine is that after Qadri long march military is using this tactic to sabotage elections....

[Michin Khel]

To have an idea about ANP demise, read following article,


PESHAWAR: Ajmal Khattak, a senior Awami National Party (ANP) leader, was among those politicians who met former military dictator Pervez Musharraf soon after the 1999 coup d’état. The move, however, did not go down well for Khattak.
The two-time president of ANP was forced to resign from the party. He said party leaders wanted to use his initiative to release Azam Khan Hoti from the National Accountability Bureau’s custody, but Khattak resisted seeing it as a party violation.
Much has changed since then. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, ANP supported military operations against the Taliban in tribal areas and Malakand division. ANP detractors proclaimed the party had parted ways from its nationalist and secular outlook, and had jumped on the establishment’s bandwagon.

This perception became so pervasive that poet and writer of Khudai Khidmatgar fame Saadullah Jan Burq accused the party’s leadership of going against its original stance. Burq’s criticism was so determined he authored a book titled ‘From Khudai khidmatgari to military.’
He contended that while Bacha Khan and Abdul Wali Khan were great ideological personalities, ideologies change with people and this phenomenon is inevitable.
“Ideology is beyond winning or losing and should be adhered to at all costs,” Burq said, adding the ANP leadership wanted power at the cost of what it stood for, and that ANP’s pro-establishment policies were opportunistic.

Farid Tofan, a former leader who was later expelled from the party, traces the roots of ANP’s changing policy to Asfandyar Wali Khan’s appointment as the party’s president. “Previously ANP’s policy was secular and hinged on separation of religion and politics.”
He said after Asfandyar took over as president, he arranged a conference at Bacha Khan Markaz, which was attended by Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) and Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) leaders among others. There Asfandyar declared the union of the mosque and hujra.
“ANP is no longer a nationalist party, which is why Aftab Sherpao has formed a nationalist party to fill this vacuum,” said Tofan. “It is no longer an anti-establishment party and those people who called the army a ‘Punjabi Army’ are now being dictated by generals on politicking.”
Analyst Khadim Hussain believes otherwise. “The ANP did not deviate from its stance. However, instead of speaking in public, they now speak to the establishment in private meetings,” Khadim said.
He acknowledged that religio-tribal discourse which has spread like a social contagion has impacted the party. “The party is struggling against this discourse, which is why it disassociated itself from Ghulam Ahmad Bilour’s bounty announcement,” Khadim said while referring to the minister’s offer for killing the filmmaker who made ‘Innocence of Muslims’.
ANP’s Provincial General Secretary Arbab Tahir also disagrees with the notion that the party has become pro-establishment. If the policies espoused by Bacha Khan had changed, then the party would not have stood against the Taliban in the war on terror, he said, adding the party’s policies are subject to ground realities and follow the policies of the Government of Pakistan.
Considering what the Pakistani society is facing, everyone should put their own house in order instead of criticising others. Otherwise, it will lead to chaos, asserted Tahir.
NAP to ANP
ANP’s predecessor, National Awami Party (NAP) was formed in 1957, but was soon labeled as anti-Islam and anti-Pakistan. Within seven years of its existence, NAP split into two factions – one headed by Wali Khan in West Pakistan and the other led by Maulana Bhashani in erstwhile East Pakistan.
The split came over extending support for Ayub Khan’s election bid. Wali Khan supported Fatima Jinnah, while Bhashani’s faction favoured Ayub because of his leaning towards China. However, NAP was banned in 1975 by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto following an operation in Balochistan.
By the mid-1980s, Wali Khan had formed the ANP with democracy, nationalism, secularism, human rights, social justice and an independent foreign policy as its key pillars.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/518857/t...establishment/

[Shehbaz Khan]

Well my dear Red Flag was there even before the creation of Pakistan. The red shirts clean sweeped the founders of Pakistan in 1946.The province was ruled by the Red shirts when pakistan came into being and ever since ANP is a popular party here so stop joking. BTW oss baney ma' kawai chaghey mo wale wahaley che eke yawazey ba hakumat jorawo, daa domra asaney khabrey na dee....

The red flag was popular? :/ mal ba mu dier o aao barakat ba ye na o :p

I never said that PTI is going to sweep it. NEVER!