If Punjabi people have white admixture in them (via Saka-Scythian mixture)then why...

[Khostai]

I don't understand why some peopel here are so obssesd with being white or light skined LOL.
Last time I was in Afghanistan peopel who had blue eyes and colored hair where called cats and kids alwasy made fun of the other kids who had blue eyes lol. Calling them pash :P
And peopel who had light brown or what some call here hazel eyes, were always refered to like, dogs eyes. I always heared my uncle speaking of a guy who he hated like this, "da spay bia po da zero stargo mota katal" he hated that guy and that man had really light borwn eyes LOL.

And peopel here are taking so much pride in having colored eyes lol. Don't forget that almost all the songs that describes a beautiful lady, is about a lady having black hair and black eyes whith red lips, and not about dirty blond, blue eyed pishak :P

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

I don't understand why some peopel here are so obssesd with being white or light skined LOL.
Last time I was in Afghanistan peopel who had blue eyes and colored hair where called cats and kids alwasy made fun of the other kids who had blue eyes lol. Calling them pash :P
And peopel who had light brown or what some call here hazel eyes, were always refered to like, dogs eyes. I always heared my uncle speaking of a guy who he hated like this, "da spay bia po da zero stargo mota katal" he hated that guy and that man had really light borwn eyes LOL.

And peopel here are taking so much pride in having colored eyes lol. Don't forget that almost all the songs that describes a beautiful lady, is about a lady having black hair and black eyes whith red lips, and not about dirty blond, blue eyed pishak :P

Is it because Afghans with light hair and light eyes have been descendants from British and Russian soldiers who raped women? So people generally dont like Afghans with light hair and light eyes because it reminds them of British people and Russians messing with Afghanistan>

[TolloAfghanSpinDai]

The suspicions started to arise when this guy started comparing pashtuns to punjabis and other indians. Anthropology proves Pakhtuns are not Indic yet this guy keeps barking. Either he really is indian, or just a self hating Pashtun.

A group of Sakas/Sarmations or Scythians went down to the south and created 3 races.


Tajiks, Pashtuns and Punjabis all come from this group....

[Kushan Prince]

A group of Sakas/Sarmations or Scythians went down to the south and created 3 races.


Tajiks, Pashtuns and Punjabis all come from this group....

No they are not.


Punjabis are mixed dravadians and Tajiks are sodighans who got mixed Turkic people.

[Karachi]

A group of Sakas/Sarmations or Scythians went down to the south and created 3 races.


Tajiks, Pashtuns and Punjabis all come from this group....

what makes punjabis sakas or Scythians? Also punjabis themselves are a huge groups of people, I believe dalits low caste actually make up 30-40% of punjabs population, are they Scythians too? Punjabis are just like other north indians, yes they are mixed with numerous outsiders and some of them can indeed be related to afghans or central asians, but majority aren't, atleast half of their dna is still Dravidian as Kushan said

[khwazun]

Because American White Nationalists don't consider you white ..no matter how fair skinned you are

duh

Listen to him! As someone with unusually pale skin, I can assure you that western "white" nationalists do not consider you, me or anyone else that does not have actual and legitimate links to an indigenous European ethnic group as "white". No matter how hard you try, no matter how much you troll, no matter how much pseudo-history and human anthropology you study in an attempt to link yourself to the "master race" - they won't be accepting your application.

[Wahe Guru]

what makes punjabis sakas or Scythians? Also punjabis themselves are a huge groups of people, I believe dalits low caste actually make up 30-40% of punjabs population, are they Scythians too? Punjabis are just like other north indians, yes they are mixed with numerous outsiders and some of them can indeed be related to afghans or central asians, but majority aren't, atleast half of their dna is still Dravidian as Kushan said

He did not say Punjabis were Sakas or Scythians. For that matter nobody is a Saka or Scythian today. Even in history Sakas or Scythians might have been mixed people. Sometimes an identity is assumed by those who originally did not have that identity e.g. Turkish people are not original Turks. Franks were Germans but then settled in France and became French "Latins" etc.

Dalits - perhaps make up 20% to 25% of Punjab population. Chamars are largest such group in rural areas of Punjab and they are about 11% to 12%. Perhaps in urban areas there are more of other "low caste" groups (not Chamars) who make up the rest of Dalits in Punjab. There are also many people from other parts of India who have settled in cities and towns of Punjab long time ago and now speak Punjabi. Some of them are "low castes" and others not.

Where does it say for a Punjabis that "half of their dna is still Dravidian"?

Its obvious you don't know any of these things, other than like a child.

[Karachi]

^ whatever the case is, we all know an average punjabi will almost never look what he/she claims to be, be it Saka/Scythian, Arab, Persian, Central Asian, European etc... Most will look generic North indian, only a small percentage 5% may actually be from outside. But At least in the case of Pashtuns, Kalash, Tajiks etc.. we can say that they may have different/diversified origins because they clearly look different from Indic populations. Some look west asian, some look central asian, some look european, some look pakistani/north indian etc....

[Wahe Guru]

^ whatever the case is, we all know an average punjabi will almost never look what he/she claims to be, be it Saka/Scythian, Arab, Persian, Central Asian, European etc... Most will look generic North indian, only a small percentage 5% may actually be from outside. But At least in the case of Pashtuns, Kalash, Tajiks etc.. we can say that they may have different/diversified origins because they clearly look different from Indic populations. Some look west asian, some look central asian, some look european, some look pakistani/north indian etc....

An average Punjabi does not claim to look like or be Saka/Scythian, Arab, Persian, Central Asian, European...All the Punjabis I have know personally or met personally just said they are Punjabi.
Punjabis and Indians do not want to look like others, with you being an exception.

There is no generic North Indian look. You can BS as much as you want, like you were on the other forums.

Pashtuns, Kalsh, Tajiks etc. - you say some look like this and some look like that. So maybe they are a mixture or maybe they look like that for some other reasons. Its a bit strange that they are as varied in looks as you claim and also we read here all the time that they do not marry with others ("do not marry outside...") and that they are not mixed with others. I go by genetic tests for people's origins (but remember you said on the other forum "I don't care what the genetic test shows...").

Let me tell you a personal story here (not a FAKE one like you would make up fantasising).
I went to a retail park and a guy came running to my car and asked me if I want my car cleaned. I said "no" - because I like to clean my car myself.
I then said to the guy "Where are you from?". He said "Why you asking me?". I said "I just want to know. Where are you from?". Again he did not tell me. I then said to him "Why don't you want to say? Is it a big secret?".
He said "You first tell me where are you from?". I said "I am from Punjab, India". He then said "I am from Iran" and he then cleared off.

How comes he did not immediately know I am a generic North Indian and I did not immediately know he is Iranian/Iranid? How comes he did not want to say he is Iranian immediately and was trying to avoid telling me?

Why are you constantly going around all over the Internet bad mouthing people (Indians) and especially Punjabis?
The other question is what makes you so different to all the other "generic North Indians"? Sometimes you say your homeland is Chitral, other times you are Pashtun, then "Iranid", and also West Asian etc. etc.
It seems you are the 1 single North Indian only who looks so different to all the rest of the generic North Indians. You clearly got a problem with your identity, and you take it out on Punjabis and Indians.

What is so laughable is that you have been caught doing this and you still carry on in the same silly way ranting on about Punjabis and Indians whilst raving on about others from West Asian fairy tale lands and further afield.

[Dreamer]

Pashtuns ain't Indian... Our language isn't neither is our culture or history ... We are more closer to Kurds than any Indian ppl

[Karachi]

An average Punjabi does not claim to look like or be Saka/Scythian, Arab, Persian, Central Asian, European...All the Punjabis I have know personally or met personally just said they are Punjabi.
Punjabis and Indians do not want to look like others, with you being an exception.

There is no generic North Indian look. You can BS as much as you want, like you were on the other forums.

Pashtuns, Kalsh, Tajiks etc. - you say some look like this and some look like that. So maybe they are a mixture or maybe they look like that for some other reasons. Its a bit strange that they are as varied in looks as you claim and also we read here all the time that they do not marry with others ("do not marry outside...") and that they are not mixed with others. I go by genetic tests for people's origins (but remember you said on the other forum "I don't care what the genetic test shows...").

Let me tell you a personal story here (not a FAKE one like you would make up fantasising).
I went to a retail park and a guy came running to my car and asked me if I want my car cleaned. I said "no" - because I like to clean my car myself.
I then said to the guy "Where are you from?". He said "Why you asking me?". I said "I just want to know. Where are you from?". Again he did not tell me. I then said to him "Why don't you want to say? Is it a big secret?".
He said "You first tell me where are you from?". I said "I am from Punjab, India". He then said "I am from Iran" and he then cleared off.

How comes he did not immediately know I am a generic North Indian and I did not immediately know he is Iranian/Iranid? How comes he did not want to say he is Iranian immediately and was trying to avoid telling me?

Why are you constantly going around all over the Internet bad mouthing people (Indians) and especially Punjabis?
The other question is what makes you so different to all the other "generic North Indians"? Sometimes you say your homeland is Chitral, other times you are Pashtun, then "Iranid", and also West Asian etc. etc.
It seems you are the 1 single North Indian only who looks so different to all the rest of the generic North Indians. You clearly got a problem with your identity, and you take it out on Punjabis and Indians.

What is so laughable is that you have been caught doing this and you still carry on in the same silly way ranting on about Punjabis and Indians whilst raving on about others from West Asian fairy tale lands and further afield.

Firstly you and your gang have clearly said that punjabis are Saka/Scythian on this forum and others, this is well documented, just look how many threads your friend Jatt Apache has started on this matter. I have never claimed to look Scythian or european like you or your gang keeps doing

Second, the genetics tests are bogus, only 5 punjabis tested and only 20 pashtuns tested from one region, doesn't show the whole genetics of a people, anyone with even a bit of intelligence can understand this, until the day thousands of punjabis(from every caste/group) and pashtuns(all tribes) are tested, we can never be certain of these tests, but one thing is for sure that (looks) give a clear indication about people's origins, Punjabis are defiantly a desi group, not a outsider group

Third, I dont care for your story, but Punjabis are north indians, you can never deny this, There is no 100% generic north indian look but the difference between a Punjabi, Sindhi, Rajahstani, Delhite, and even western UP is only 19/20 difference. On a general level almost no one can tell the difference between them from outside. But the difference between a Pashtun and Punjabi or a Baloch and Punjabi can be easily told because not just skin colour but even facial features tend to be different between them for the most part. At the end of the day, majority of Punjabis look desi, but Pashtuns, Baloch, Kalash, Tajiks etc... dont, it is simple as that, you can deny it all you want and live in your dream world in which you think you are white and european

Finally I am not bad mouthing punjabis, I am just putting the record straight, that you are desi and Indian, how is that bad mouthing? Maybe to you it is because you dont want to be associated with Indians, you would rather be Saka/Scythian, European, Aryan etc....

[Karachi]

Pashtuns ain't Indian... Our language isn't neither is our culture or history ... We are more closer to Kurds than any Indian ppl

Try telling this to people like Wahe Guru, who think Pashtuns and Punjabis are the same people. Almost on every forum out there they are saying this

[Khostai]

Try telling this to people like Wahe Guru, who think Pashtuns and Punjabis are the same people. Almost on every forum out there they are saying this

But why are they saing this? what is there agenda behind it?

[Dreamer]

But why are they saing this? what is there agenda behind it?

Who knows? Inferiority complex? Who cares...

[Karachi]

^ yeah it is that. Whenever someone posts pics of pashtuns with light europid features, they start ranting about it, claiming only few pashtuns have those features and in return they start postings pics of darkest pashtuns they can find.

It may have to do with rivalry between Sikhs and Pashtuns in history. Generally in Punjab and south asia, light skinned features are looked as superior, this obviously triggers jealousy among them, because they know hardly any punjabis have those features. Inside their head they probably say, why do pashtuns have those features and not us? Wahe Guru seems to be having nightmares about this