Anti Morsi/Brotherhood news in mainstream media

[randolph85]

I check yahoo news everyday just for the basic news roundup info and in the last few months have found an overwhelming amount of anti morsi articles. now i know this is to be expected in the western secular news media but i think its gone beyond the typical bias and into a whole new realm of wtf.

the articles are the same formula with some generic line like this thrown in..."which liberals, christians, and women fear will curb their rights."

for the love of god, the same line was thrown in about the ban on beards in the police force. having a beard in the police will curb the rights of non muslims...and women? never mind the fact that its been a secular law to discriminate against muslims.

ish is getting ridiculous.

[HalloIsBack]

i hate mursi

[Friend]

I have observed the same thing on bbc especially in egypt case. They do all this very well planned.

[Soldat_Amir]

Oh really while saying and typing this from a Secular country.

Randolph...Morsi is dislike by most Egyptians...he was installed by the US to breed more wahabists against Shia Iran....go watch WWF or Kafir cartoons, politics is not your thing boy!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Oh really while saying and typing this from a Secular country.

Randolph...Morsi is dislike by most Egyptians...he was installed by the US to breed more wahabists against Shia Iran....go watch WWF or Kafir cartoons, politics is not your thing boy!

Stated simply, reasons why Randolph, residing in a secular capitalist nation is not a hypocrite and why you are:

1) The economic system of Islam, as defined in surah baqrah has no reconciliation with communism. The basis for this statement is found in the verse in which there is no command to reconcile the class structure, and giving to the poor is highly recommended, but not mandated:

"Charity is for those in need, who, in God's cause are restricted (from travel, and cannot move about in the land, seeking (For trade or work): the ignorant man thinks, because of their modesty, that they are free from want. Thou shalt know them by their (Unfailing) mark: They beg not importunately from all the sundry. And whatever of good ye give, be assured God knoweth it well." (2:273)

Your espoused economic philosophy (and please do not try to hide it) is and was communism which is why you endorsed the KGB backed Khad and still lament the fall of the Soviets.

Now a communist has no reconciliation what so ever with a capitalist centered nation.

But an opportunist does. That is what you are. Not a socialist, or whatever else apologists seek to label you Najibiites, but a true dyed in the red communist.

The litmust test is your support for that murderer psychopath Esmat Muslim.

2) You reside in a nation that may be secular but generally espouses freedom of religion, not adhereing to Marxist ideology that labels religion a panacea of the fools or an opium of the masses.

You cannot simply call yourself slavcentric since Putin is one of your heroes and was clear cut KGB. Putin was no Romanov and his cadre and predecessors in no way supported the concept of Sovietes from the Kronstadt sailors but rather hero worshipped Lenin, the usurper of the revolution.

There are nations you can remake your passport in like North Korea and/or Vietnam - perhaps China - but otherwise for anyone that knows anything about these complex concepts it is glaringly obvious you are the hypocrite and worse, the opportunist.

The cherry on top is that the biggest opponent of Russian centered doctrine in Afghanistan initially even during the Romanov time was the British.

So tell me, how is it that you reside in the land of tea and krumpets despite the fact that you are clearly in diametric opposition to their history and viewpoints.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I check yahoo news everyday just for the basic news roundup info and in the last few months have found an overwhelming amount of anti morsi articles. now i know this is to be expected in the western secular news media but i think its gone beyond the typical bias and into a whole new realm of wtf.

the articles are the same formula with some generic line like this thrown in..."which liberals, christians, and women fear will curb their rights."

for the love of god, the same line was thrown in about the ban on beards in the police force. having a beard in the police will curb the rights of non muslims...and women? never mind the fact that its been a secular law to discriminate against muslims.

ish is getting ridiculous.

Randolph,

interesting reading for you:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20...opularity.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir...up_d'%C3%A9tat

The stage is being set, probably by intelligence agencies in collusion with local affiliates, to stage an Operation Ajax Part II.

The eerie similarity to Kermit Roosevelt's Operation Ajax in overthrowing Mossadegh decades ago is so thick it is palpable (here is the CIA's commentary regarding Iran):
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...article10.html

"Kinzer is at his journalistic best when—drawing on published sources, declassified documents, interviews, and a bootleg copy of a secret Agency history of the operation9—he reconstructs the day-to-day running of TPAJAX. The plan comprised propaganda, provocations, demonstrations, and bribery, and employed agents of influence, "false flag" operatives, dissident military leaders (insert the current Egyptian dissdent leaders here), and paid protestors (black block). The measure of success seemed easy enough to gauge—"[a]ll that really mattered was that Tehran be in turmoil," writes Kinzer. The design, which looked good on paper, failed on its first try, however, and succeeded largely through happenstance and Roosevelt's nimble improvisations. No matter how meticulously scripted a covert action may be, the "fog of war" affects it as readily as military forces on a battlefield. Roosevelt may have known that already—he and his confreres chose as the project's unofficial anthem a song from the musical Guys and Dolls: "Luck Be a Lady Tonight."10"

So the Black Bloc is likely the basis for Operation Ajax II to do the same to Morsy as was done to Mossadegh.

The sad thing about all of this is that it will set of a chain reaction of events that will result in blowback if history is repeated.

Recall that the historical events after Ajax went like this:

Operation Ajax---> Shah installed and Shah runs brutal regime ---> Ayatollahs lead a Pan Iranian rebellion that includes all the groups including Tudeh ---> In response to the independent Iran the US arms Saddam Hussein to the teeth and gets that idiot to fight a very protracted and tragic war that weakens both sides ---> per wikileaks memo that was released the Iraqi Ambassador Glaspie gave Hussein the tacit green light to take Kuwait which he promised to do should he not win in Iran ---> Based on this move the US placed troops in Saudi creating a militant backlash that led to the sad and tragic events unfolding in the world today.

Paul Pillar of the CIA details the sequences of events in many of his papers and warns about the costs of these games.

Let us hope that somehow Hagel proves himself and cooler heads prevail that realize all of the peoples of the world have the right to their autonomy and that all can benefit by being hospitable trade partners not engaged in fomenting turmoil in other countries.

In this information age we ought to be aware of the idigenous wants and needs of other peoples and learn, based on the patterns of history, to not interfere.

The opening up of trade between the US and Vietnam should prove clearly the benefits of trade and negotations and the now dual failures of Iraq and Afghanistan should prove that human nature and progress works against impositions and force.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

To show the divide between the Black Bloc and the true liberal youth of Egypt, I refer you to the interview with revolutionary Wael Ghonim.

Leadership & the Internet: Wael Ghonim - YouTube

Start watching at 32 minutes and 40 second and see his reponse regarding the election outcome.

Soldat has no leg to stand on because Ghonim was one of the human drivers, perhaps from a secular vantage point, of the revolution.

This info is not because I feel passionately about this by any means, but rather because I enjoy being informed about the reality behind the facade.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Oh really while saying and typing this from a Secular country.

Randolph...Morsi is dislike by most Egyptians...he was installed by the US to breed more wahabists against Shia Iran....go watch WWF or Kafir cartoons, politics is not your thing boy!

That makes no sense since the U.S. were upset at the Muslim Brotherhood gaining control of the Government and Morsi being elected.

DOn't pull any conspiracy theorist nonsense here.

Furthermore the Muslim Brotherhood have official press releases condemning Wahhabist and Taliban activities and furthermore having active diplomatic relations with Iran.

You're hear spreading disinformation.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I check yahoo news everyday just for the basic news roundup info and in the last few months have found an overwhelming amount of anti morsi articles. now i know this is to be expected in the western secular news media but i think its gone beyond the typical bias and into a whole new realm of wtf.

the articles are the same formula with some generic line like this thrown in..."which liberals, christians, and women fear will curb their rights."

for the love of god, the same line was thrown in about the ban on beards in the police force. having a beard in the police will curb the rights of non muslims...and women? never mind the fact that its been a secular law to discriminate against muslims.

ish is getting ridiculous.

Well as the brilliant Soviet Sock Puppet Soldat Amirovsky has revealed it is really an American conspiracy to malign the Ikhwan who they installed so they can surround Iran with beardless police personnel.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Well as the brilliant Soviet Sock Puppet Soldat Amirovsky has revealed it is really an American conspiracy to malign the Ikhwan who they installed so they can surround Iran with beardless police personnel.

Not to mention his obsession with desert cuisine. He appears to have some fascination with Lizard meat despite the fact that:

The French eat snails (es cargo)
The Russians munch on fish eggs (cavier) and bear paw
The Americans in Arizona eat rattle snake
The Japanese eat rats
The Pashtuns of certain regions have a preference for cow tongue and intestinal wall.

Nor is there any mention of the Quraish or the Hijaz Arabs eating Lizards for fun.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Hmmm. Interesting. My above statement was incorrect but what we do know is that the Prophet himself did not eat it and disliked it. Sorry Soldat, but the elegance of the Prophet wins out again thanks to your inability to actually research something even in minor depth:


SAHIH MUSLIM BOOK 21
http://www.iupui.edu/~msaiupui/021.smt.html

"'Abdullah b. 'Abbas reported: I and Khalid b. Walid went to the apartment of Maimuna along with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and there was presented to him a roasted lizard. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stretched his hand towards It, whereupon some of the women who had been in the house of Maimuna said: Inform Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) what he intends to eat. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) lifted his hand. I said: Messenger of Allah, Is it forbidden? He said: No. It is not found in the land of my people, and I feel that I have no liking for it. Khalid said: I then chewed and ate it, while, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was looking (at me)."


"Ibn 'Umar reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about the eating of (the flesh) of the lizard, whereupon he said: I am neither the eater of it nor its prohibitor."


"Ibn 'Umar reported that a person asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as he was sitting on the pulpit about the eating of the lizard, whereupon he said: I neither eat it, nor do I prohibit it."


"'Abdullah b. 'Abbas reported that Khalid b. Walid who is called the Sword of Allah had informed him that he visited Maimuna, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), in the company of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and she was the sister of his mother (that of Khalid) and that of 'Ibn Abbas, and he found with her a roasted lizard which her sister Hufaida the daughter of al-Harith had brought from Najd, and she presented that lizard to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). It was rare that some food was presented to the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) and it was not mentioned or named. While Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was about to stretch forth his hand towards the lizard, a woman from amongst the women present there informed the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) what they had presented to him. They said: Messenger of Allah, it is a lizard. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) withdrew his hand, whereupon Khalid b. Walid said: Messenger of Allah, is a lizard forbidden? There opon he said: No, but it is not found in the land of my people, and I feel that I have no liking for it. Khal there were brought to Allah's Messenger two roasted lizards. Here no mention is made of al- 'Asamm narrating from Maimuna."


"Abu Zubair reported: I asked Jabir about ithe eating) of the lizard, whereupon he said: Don't eat that as he (the Holy Prophet) felt disgust. He (the narrator) said that Umar b. al-Khattab reminded: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) did not declare it to be unlawful. Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, has (made it a source) of benefit for more than one (persons). It is a common diet of the shepherds. Had it been with me, I would have eaten that."

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Not to mention his obsession with desert cuisine. He appears to have some fascination with Lizard meat despite the fact that:

The French eat snails (es cargo)
The Russians munch on fish eggs (cavier) and bear paw
The Americans in Arizona eat rattle snake
The Japanese eat rats
The Pashtuns of certain regions have a preference for cow tongue and intestinal wall.

Nor is there any mention of the Quraish or the Hijaz Arabs eating Lizards for fun.

This is kind of a tangent but to add to your conclusion

but there is a video of a Pashtun man eating snakes

A 70 year old man eating snake - YouTube

Soviet Sock Puppet Amirovsky seems to have tunnel vision.

[randolph85]

Oh really while saying and typing this from a Secular country.

Randolph...Morsi is dislike by most Egyptians...he was installed by the US to breed more wahabists against Shia Iran....go watch WWF or Kafir cartoons, politics is not your thing boy!

disliked by most egyptians yet his party puts people like you to shame in presidential elections, parliamentary elections, and constitutional referendums.

ahhh yes i am sure the US would much rather have a muslim morsi in power rather than a complacent secular fool like el baradei in office.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

disliked by most egyptians yet his party puts people like you to shame in presidential elections, parliamentary elections, and constitutional referendums.

ahhh yes i am sure the US would much rather have a muslim morsi in power rather than a complacent secular fool like el baradei in office.

Randolph,

Based on our discussions above, to substantiate what I said earlier about an eerie similarity to the fall of Mossadegh, here is Dr. Scheuer, formerly head of Alec Station, commenting and substantiating your and mine original posts:
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http://www.mikechurch.com/transcript...mali-and-more/

Scheuer: My guess on that is that since Morsi and the Brotherhood were elected in fair and open elections, the United States and its allies have been working with the opposition to get them out on the streets. Anything with the term “Islamic” in it scares these people to death. I suspect that Mrs. Clinton’s State Department, the British Foreign Office, have been helping the opposition forces with computers and money and organizational skills and that kind of thing. It just goes against the grain to me somehow when we keep having fairly-elected governments and then we have a government that we don’t like and we try to overthrow it. It’s a ridiculous situation. It’s kind of a quiet intervention, but in the long run perhaps a more damaging kind of intervention. What we’re saying to the Egyptian people is that you’re so stupid you believe in religion and you wanted these people in power. We’re going to fix you with these secularists. We’ll push them into power. Really all that will result is a civil war like we’re watching in Syria.

Mike Church: That is almost precisely what Patrick J. Buchanan said two days ago in one of his columns. Who are we to sit here, valueless Americans, to second guess the values of people in other countries because they want to impose them from the top down and actually want to live amongst people that they agree with?

Scheuer: It’s not really from the top down. That’s the way the media has portrayed it. From everything I saw, the elections were entirely fair. The constitution that puts religious principles into place was approved by almost two-thirds of the people. How do we figure that that’s not a legitimate government? It’s only not legitimate because we prefer pagan governments and we don’t like it, so we’re going to try to overthrow it.

Mike Church: [laughing] “We prefer pagan governments,” that’s a great way to put it.

Scheuer: That’s what we’re offering these people. We’re not offering them democratic values. We’re offering the neo-paganism that is America today. You mentioned it yourself. That thing in Newtown was terrible, but we’ve killed 55 million babies. No one has a word to say about that. Sacrificing human beings to a so-called right of a woman, if that’s not an unbelievably pagan kind of affair, I don’t know what it is.
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So Operation Ajax II is in sequence as we write. The first one resulted in the horrible outcome we see today.... only God himself knows what horrors this one will release for the innocents all over the world. I can only hope that innocents everywhere can somehow survive out opt out of this sick game the elites are all playing with our lives, Christians and Muslims alike.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I dont know maybe Rand Paul and Hagel can pull us back from the abyss. But it does not seem to be happening.