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    Robert Greenwald: U.S. Drone Strikes Are Causing Child Casualties: Video and Report

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    Wasnt a formal complaint lodged with the UN?
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #3
      living under drones. interviews with people in the drone zone.
      Living Under Drones - YouTube

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      • #4
        yes admin khan. here's a new report.
        UN special rapporteur unveils major issues of drone attacks investigation, but admits

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        • #5
          Do you think the good ol USA will change its stance? Are there American troops in Australia as well?
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            US Bases in Australia

            While this list is not exhaustive it does purport to show the entanglements of the Australian military in the US military. This is only to be expected after 50 years of the Australian-US military alignment. A base of the US military can be for year round occupation or for occupation of some weeks per year. The activities of the Australian military in collecting intelligence for the US can make a base which is wholly paid for and staffed by Australians a de facto US base.

            A. Alice Springs
            Pine Gap is really about three facilities employing 750 to 1,000 US and Australian personnel

            1. a) the Singint collecting
            2. b) the DSP and now star wars bases
            3. c) the photographic section
            4. d) the seismic station in Alice Springs itself
            5. e) the town facility -see the web site. It is huge!

            B. North West Cape
            This base is largely in mothballs but can activated by the US at any time it deems necessary.
            5. a) the communication towers
            6. b) the Solar observatory run by the US airforce

            C. Seismic Stations
            7.Mundaring WA
            8. Hobart TAS
            9. Sydney NSW
            10. Charters Towers Qld
            11 Daly Waters NT
            12. Tennant Creek
            D. Weather
            13. Mildura
            14. There is another one near Wagga Wagga but cannot confirm.

            D. Since the DSD is part of the UK/USA agreements - all these bases are part of the US system of Echelon
            15. Watsonia -Melbourne -Vic
            16. Geraldton -WA
            17. Shoal Bay NT
            18. DSD HQ Canberra

            E. RAAF bases hosting outposts of the Military Airlift Command (MAC) of the US airforce are:
            19. Richmond NSW
            20 Learmouth WA
            21 Pearce WA
            22 Salisbury SA
            F. Under agreements signed long ago - the Royal Australian Airforce Bases (RAAF) are to be made available to the US when required
            23 RAAF Darwin
            24 Williamtown NSW
            25. Townsville
            26. others in the north around Kimberley and Cape York
            G. Maritime signals and electronic war outlets
            27. Cabarlah Qld
            28. Hariman ACT may have moved to Wagga NSW.
            G. Australian Navy bases used frequently
            29. Stirling WA
            30. Sydney and Jervis Bay

            H. The training the facilities frequently used by the US
            31. Delamere NT bombing training range
            32. Shoalwater Bay Qld - jungle training

            I. The US change the nature of NASA from the civilian to the military some time ago (10 years ago)
            33. Tidbinbulla ACT is a US military base - part of the US Space Command of the US airforce.

            J. GPS system has the
            34. Omega Station at Dariman Vic

            By the way the US wanting more bases in Australia was dated 21/6/01 SMH

            I do not think that the list above is exhaustive and I argue that Australian bases which are used frequently and often by the US are then de facto US bases. There is a criss crossing of agreements about the use of Australian military facilities for US purposes. The use of these bases may only be for short periods during the year but the ready provision of them for the use of the US elevates them to US bases.

            All Australian military and some civilian airports and seaports are to be put at the disposal of the US military should the need arise. There agreements signed and treaties entered into to facilitate this process.




            Anti-Bases Campaign Coalition

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            • #7
              i saw a documenary about drones. they are creating solar powered drones, drones that can turn into bombs, and small drones that they intend anyone can have, as their own personal drone.
              'just like everyone now has a computer', the sales pitch went.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                Do you think the good ol USA will change its stance?
                anyway, you're the nationalstic, proud american, what do you think?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  Wasnt a formal complaint lodged with the UN?
                  when will you choose the side of Afghans?
                  why do you keep american interests first while neglecting the Afghan?

                  dont get mad now for me asking you these questions

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                  • #10
                    btw
                    Thank you Faye for bringing these things to attention while many here are trying theri best to shove it under the carpet.
                    do you know how many of these drones are also used in Afghanistan?
                    most likely ten times as much.
                    Last edited by ډګروال; 02-11-2013, 06:21 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Child Casualties As a Result of U.S. Drone Strikes - YouTube

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        anyway, you're the nationalstic, proud american, what do you think?
                        according to him it is targeting some isi agents and those who do not know how admin's iphone works and found the icons to be inislamic.
                        so it is all justified.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                          Do you think the good ol USA will change its stance? Are there American troops in Australia as well?
                          It is going the opposite way, Obama just nominated John Brennon for CIA chief who is a big supporter of expanding the drone program.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ډګروال View Post
                            btw
                            Thank you Faye for bringing these things to attention while many here are trying theri best to shove it under the carpet.
                            do you know how many of these drones are also used in Afghanistan?
                            most likely ten times as much.
                            as you will know, usually, the full truth about wars, does not come out till years later. these days, though, there are many who don't think the invasions of iraq and afghanistan are legal or justified, so there are some who are exposing the crimes against humanity, now, including ethical, humane americans.
                            access to cameras, internet media and cell phones, has also been helpful to get news out immediately.
                            Last edited by faye; 02-11-2013, 08:00 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by faye View Post
                              as you will know, usually, the full truth about wars, does not come out till years later. these days, though, there are many who don't think the invasions of iraq and afghanistan are legal or justified, so there are some who are exposing the crimes against humanity, now, including ethical, humane americans.
                              access to cameras, internet media and cell phones, has also been helpful to get news out immediately.
                              yes its true the facts come out many years later under the label "unclassified".
                              People have taken to the streets ever since this/these wars have started.
                              i have seen that americans,europeans etc demonstrated against the wars,matter of fact they did it year after year.Obviously the citizens of those countries do not and have not agreed to the war on the innocent people of Afghanistan and Iraq.But they were sidelined ,demonised while the MIC(military industrial complex) was flexing its muscles and were making tons of dollars.

                              i think the people have got tired of demonstrating while no one listend to them and the politicians , the neocons etc kept the course and done worse than before.

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