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    http://tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/8...er-after-trial-

    Footage Shows Insurgents Executing Afghan Soldier After 'Trial'


    Friday, 28 December 2012 18:50 Written by Saleha Soadat

    Insurgents have released a video of the alleged killing of an Afghan Army soldier after prosecuting him in an insurgent military court.
    The footage, recently obtained by the media, shows insurgents, possibly Taliban, shooting dead at close range an Afghan soldier who holds his army ID card in his mouth.
    Though the Ministry of Defense has not confirmed the identity of the soldier, it acknowledged that summary killings of Afghan soldiers by the Taliban are common.
    "We have witnessed many incidents such as this one, where the Taliban identify [off-duty] Afghan Army soldiers from passenger cars while they are travelling home or returning to their duties after holidays," Ministry of Defense Spokesman Gen. Zahir Azimi told TOLOnews.

    The incident has alarmed Afghan civil society and human rights organizations. Activists condemned the summary execution and urged the Taliban and all the involved parties to respect human dignity and rights.
    The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) called the execution a potential war crime.
    "When someone [a combatant] is arrested, they are held under international laws and they should be treated according to international laws. If this [execution] is done by the Taliban, it's against human rights and considered a war crime," AIHRC Chief Executive Officer Musa Mahmoodi said.

    This comes as the Taliban previously condemned the execution of several insurgent prisoners in Kabul's Pul-i-Charkhi prison and urged the UN to prevent the government from ordering further prisoner executions. The Taliban called the executions a violation of human rights.
    "Taliban raised objections when several criminals were executed in the Pul-i-Charkhi prison after being prosecuted by the courts. I want to ask them how they see this action," Gen. Azimi said.

    The Taliban have not commented on the authenticity of the video. A previous video, also allegedly from the Taliban, shows an Afghan Local Police commander being executed by cannon-fire in the southeast of the country.

  • #2
    I told you guys the Afghan government starting to execute Taliban prisoners will have reprecussions. Karmel and Najib used to execute Majahadeen fighters and that brought in a very ugly reaction. These people dont know what they are doing, they dont read history. That afghan soldiers blood is on Karzai's hands. They need to stop this on both sides.

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    • #3
      It was carried out in the north by islamic movement of uzbekistan deployed and led by the islamic emirate commanders,in areas with uzbak or tajik population.

      It has been released last year maybe it is much older.
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #4
        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/wo...n-tv.html?_r=0
        Afghan TV Shows Video of Apparent Execution of Afghan Soldier

        By ROD NORDLAND

        Published: December 28, 2012



        KABUL, Afghanistan — Mohammad Jan’s killers did not even do him the decency of looking him in the eye.
        In a distressing video aired on national television stations here on Thursday night, the Afghan National Army soldier first has his army identity card stuck in his mouth and is then ordered to say his name out loud, but can only mumble unintelligibly because of the card.
        The scene cuts and one of the killers stands behind him and shoots him in the head with a pistol, five times. Another man stands off to the side, out of his victim’s view, and fires three bursts from his AK-47 rifle into his torso, which convulses at each round.
        It was yet another example of a terrible truth, one that has been a commonplace for so long that it is seldom commented upon: insurgents in Afghanistan rarely take any prisoners.

        While the Afghan government and the American military are holding thousands of Taliban prisoners, there is no evidence that the Taliban are holding any, other than a lone American, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, whom they have been trying to exchange for high-level Taliban prisoners. Asked about this, a spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, insisted that the insurgents follow Islamic law in the treatment of prisoners and do not summarily execute them. He maintained that the insurgents had “many” prisoners, but declined to say how many, or where they were being held. The only case he could cite was that of Sergeant Bergdahl, who was captured in eastern Paktika Province on June 30, 2009.

        “We do not kill prisoners, we try our best to keep them alive as long as we can,” Mr. Mujahid said, in an interview by cellphone from an undisclosed location. He confirmed, however, that the Taliban do not allow the International Committee of the Red Cross to visit their prisoners; he said it would be unsafe for them to do so. The I.C.R.C. does routinely visit prisoners held by the Afghan government and by American forces.
        “For instance, we have an American we have kept alive for years, Bergdahl,” he added.
        So what about Mohammad Jan and his apparent execution?
        “We are going to investigate this case. Was it really an execution, or just a propaganda operation?” Mr. Mujahid said. “We will inform the news media.”

        Far more persuasive than the video, however, is the Afghan National Army’s tally of its soldiers listed as missing: zero.
        “They don’t keep prisoners alive, so we don’t have any missing soldiers, we don’t think,” said Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi, the spokesman for the Defense Ministry. He said the Afghan military has not yet determined whether the video of the execution was genuine, but in any case, “I call this a crime against humanity and a war crime.”
        Mr. Mujahid also maintained that in some cases the insurgents had released Afghan government prisoners on receiving assurances from elders or family members that the prisoner would not return to the fight. One example is Maulavi Shafiullah Nuristani, now a prominent member of the government’s High Peace Council, who was captured by the Taliban when trying to visit a Taliban commander in Kunar Province to discuss a peace deal. “For a month, I was thinking of death every moment,” Mr. Nuristani said. “They were cursing me, beating me and telling me that I have been helping invaders and the puppet government.” He was finally released because of the intercession of powerful tribal relatives in the area.

        The Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission also condemned the video, and the Taliban’s practice of summary executions. “This sort of execution without trial, it’s against international humanitarian law, against human rights law, against all Islamic values to protect war prisoners,” said Mohammad Farid Hamidi, a commissioner.
        “Unfortunately, in many cases like this they capture people from the road and then they kill them,” he said.
        The Taliban have, however, been quick to protest on those relatively rare occasions when the government has executed Taliban prisoners. One of those took place last month, when six Taliban prisoners were hanged, along with another eight criminals.

        The Taliban prisoners had been convicted of assassinations of public figures and participation in suicide bombing plots. While Human Rights Watch criticized the executions, it did so on the grounds that the death penalty is always wrong, and that Afghanistan’s justice system is so poor that the convictions could not be trusted — rather than because they were prisoners of war, according to the group’s Afghanistan representative, Heather Barr.
        When plans for the Taliban executions were announced, the Taliban released a statement the day before calling for them to be stopped. “Since executing war prisoners is an action contradicting every civil law, therefore the Islamic Emirate is gravely disturbed and regarding it urges the United Nations, Islamic Conference, International Red Cross and every other international human right organization to prevent this action,” the statement said.
        However imperfect their trials, the Taliban prisoners did at least get them.
        Mr. Mujahid maintained that the insurgents would only kill prisoners after a proper trial under Shariah law, and then only if they had committed an actual crime other than simply belonging to the other side. But there is little evidence such trials actually take place.
        When Taliban insurgents stopped a bus in the Ahmadkhel district of eastern Paktia Province last August, they found three Afghan National Army soldiers on leave onboard, and took them away. Their bodies were found the next day, shot to death.
        Based on a hadith, or saying of the Prophet Muhammad, Islamic law is pretty much in concord with current international standards, said Mr. Hamidi, the commissioner. “You must respect the person, feed him from your own food, clothe him from your own clothing, and they have the same rights you have.”
        That will have been little solace to a soldier named Mohammad Jan.
        Last edited by khushal; 12-28-2012, 05:56 PM.

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        • #5
          the cycle continues. muslims killing each other with the influence of shaitan.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            mujahedin used to slaughter simple police and taraffic officers , but not only them but also our whole national hockey team .

            so please kushal stopp justifying the killing of brothers , its bad enough our people fight for others interesst each other ,by what happend 20 years ago , not only najib murderd innocent people ...

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            • #7
              muslims killing each other with the influence of shaitan.
              not muslims killing each other and not by the influence of shaitan , but afghan killing afghan because out of poverty and for dollar .

              in turkey there are also muslims also in indonesia or malaysia , they dont kill each other and its not because they are better muslims or pray more than we do ...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                mujahedin used to slaughter simple police and taraffic officers , but not only them but also our whole national hockey team .

                so please kushal stopp justifying the killing of brothers , its bad enough our people fight for others interesst each other ,by what happend 20 years ago , not only najib murderd innocent people ...
                Im not justifying anything but you have to understand when one group starts executing prisoners, the other side will react and ususally very brutaly. Most of these ANA soldiers are only joining to feed their families just lke during the soviet days, I had cousins that were forced into the Army and when they heard that there was systemic executions from the other side, they deserted and went to pakistan. Karzai is following in Karmel and Najib footsteps when it comes to this, it is counter productive and bad for the country as a whole.
                Both sides have to stop this, most of those ANA soldiers are just doing what they have to do to feed their family and those Taliban prisoners most beleive are not getting a fair trial when one studies how corrupt the justice system is in the Afghan government, and you know our culture, the kin of a taliban prisoner executed is going to kill some random ANA soldier that had nothing to do with their kins execution.
                Karzai does not know his people.

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                • #9
                  i go even a stepp further and tell you that this excecutions are done by purpose not just simple badi or badal ...

                  they are done by porpuse so again animosity and hate is created ....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                    not muslims killing each other and not by the influence of shaitan , but afghan killing afghan because out of poverty and for dollar .

                    in turkey there are also muslims also in indonesia or malaysia , they dont kill each other and its not because they are better muslims or pray more than we do ...

                    its safe to say that both sides of the conflict at home are muslims, the influence of shaitan comes from disregarding islam because of poverty and the dollar, not the simple western narrative of "extremist jihad". turks and kurds have been killing each other for years, the indo's and malays have blood on their hands too.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #11
                      randolf if you really belive the problem lies just in disregarding islam because people are poor and hungry for cash , than you are naive or blind .

                      just because people are poor or not so wealthy doesnt mean it leads to disregarding islam , saudi arabia one of the richest countries on the planet got more than enough, and they are far away from living according to islam .
                      still they are more or less confortable with their situation , no civilwar .

                      regarding turkey , the kurds didnt get their country after the splitt up of the ottoman empire , besides to this its not comparable by any degree to our civilwar of the last 30 years

                      and regarding indonesia and malaysia , their countries are prospering , they dont kill each other , they dont fight each other their capital was not bombed into ashes and ruins by themself

                      the people in charge will do everything right what you expect from a proper muslim , but they backstab and betray their own people .


                      some problems have nothing to do with shaitan or being not a proper muslim , like getting a cold or diseas ....

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                      • #12
                        randolf if you really belive the problem lies just in disregarding islam because people are poor and hungry for cash , than you are naive or blind .
                        wasn't that your point initially?

                        i think you are missing my point entirely. these people who are killing each other probably pray 5 times a day and whatnot but have no qualms about killing and torturing each other. they think there is no defect in their faith because they are religious when they aren't sinning and make excuses or don't even awknowledge their sins after they commit them. the quran says that people will make excuses for their sins, and while these people are muslims, their deviance from islam is from pride/profit/pressure which is from the shaitan.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #13
                          ^^dont forget anger

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                          • #14
                            I cant find a video of it online but there is reason to beleive the pic you are referring to is from another incident.

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                            • #15
                              ^He is mountain niger....

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