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  • #31
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    This is false. If anything it is the other way around. The Arabs have been totally conquerred and the ones that refuse to submit who are just a handful have been given sanctuary in the land that you think you are helping. Remember, the Americans are after those arabs, not pashtuns. OBL was hiding in Afghanistan, not in Arabia. He couldnt find any men in the latter.

    Also the palistinians and the Iraqis(former mesopotamia) who you claimed to be from before are all arabized people.
    Excuse me, Palestinians are not Arabized Israelites, we are Arabs. We belong to Arab Hamulas.

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    • #32
      keep the palestinians out of it.
      what do palestinians have to do with the situation of Pashtuns?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by al-Husayni View Post
        Excuse me, Palestinians are not Arabized Israelites, we are Arabs. We belong to Arab Hamulas.
        the original inhabitants of this land were the Cananites.

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        • #34
          There are many middle eastern jews living in Israel who could be part of the Bani Israel, but yes a large majority of israelis citizens came from Europe or Russia who are not bani Israel

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          • #35
            Originally posted by al-Husayni View Post
            Excuse me, Palestinians are not Arabized Israelites, we are Arabs. We belong to Arab Hamulas.
            but why do Palestinians look different from saudis than? you guys are much closer to other Levant people in looks. it is possible you guys have partial arab ancestry but defiantly not full

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            • #36
              Originally posted by torkham View Post
              Alhusayni, do not palestinians disavow being ethnic arabs, do not jordanian (the non-palestinians of course) disassociate themselves from the gulf arabs in terms of culture (for this reason many were happy not to be included in GCC recently), going a bit farther north, do not the lebanese completely reject any arabness by claiming phoenician ancestry and speak with a French lilt to remove any evidence of the guttural kh.

              These affectations i have observed amongst the so called arabs of bilad al sham (greater sooriya or greater ancient syria) and the levant, are indeed affectations considering the definition of being arab is divided on lines of language, ethnicity and to lesser extent geography.
              If we disavowed being ethnically Arab why would we use a flag based on the Arab revolt as our national flag. The only people who have an issue with being Arab are some of the Christian Lebanese and Egyptians. Palestinians are the proudest of Arabs. You realise that southern Palestine was part of the Roman province of Arabia. I challenge you to go to Jordan and spot who is Palestinean who is Jordanian, you can't. The truth is I believe Arabs should unite into a unified federation based on Nasserist lines. I am against Islamism and uniting with non arab muslims. The boundaries of the Middle East are artifical colonial consturcts created by the British and French, they have no ethnic or historc basis whatsoever. The British originally promised us one united Arab state from Aleppo to Aden and then changed their mind and divided us like colonial chess peices between britain and france and then divided us further so it would be easier to govern, they also promised a part of the arab homeland to the Zionists. Most Palestineans are part of Hamulas,clans and tribes which have members in Syria, Sinai,Jordan we unlike some Lebanese people are the proudest of Arabs. You must remeber that there were Arabs here since biblical times and King Herod was Arab not Jewish. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ry/herod.shtml

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                but why do Palestinians look different from saudis than? you guys are much closer to other Levant people in looks. it is possible you guys have partial arab ancestry but defiantly not full
                Russians look a bit different Serbs and Bulgarians, but they are still Slavs.Do all pashtuns look the same? Do Northern Italians look the same as Southern Italians? No but they are still all Italian. As I said we belong to the same clans as neighboring countries, the borders are merely colonial inventions.
                You have a false notion that all Arabs are very dark skinned. at any rate a Palestinian would be insulted if you told him he was actually Jewish/Israelite. The only people who have a conflicted identity in the Middle east are some of the Lebanese.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by al-Husayni View Post
                  you ungrateful Desi Kalb.
                  I can appreciate you showing up to try to defend your people and all things associated but sidenote: Afghans/Pashtuns do not really qualify as "desis" under the generally accepted definition, neither culturally or geographically. In some ways we are drastically different from the groups that fall under that definition.

                  *This doesn't really apply so much to some portions of the culturally colonized Pashtuns of Pakistan who seem to have thoroughly absorbed "Pakistani"/quasi-hindu/mujrah culture.
                  I don't make monkeys, I just train them.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by al-Husayni View Post
                    Russians look a bit different Serbs and Bulgarians, but they are still Slavs.Do all pashtuns look the same? Do Northern Italians look the same as Southern Italians? No but they are still all Italian. As I said we belong to the same clans as neighboring countries, the borders are merely colonial inventions.
                    You have a false notion that all Arabs are very dark skinned. at any rate a Palestinian would be insulted if you told him he was actually Jewish/Israelite. The only people who have a conflicted identity in the Middle east are some of the Lebanese.
                    That's funny because Bulgarians are "Slavized" Balkan peoples, and Southern Italians are originally Etruscans

                    you're proving our point with your examples.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #40
                      who cares that the palis are, the fact remains that palestine is real and that israel shouldn't feel safe because of the status quo. if and when muslims become strong, who do you think they will wipe out first? by then there won't be enough boats to take you back to europe.

                      observer seems like a christian zionist, flabbergasted as to why morality trumps 2000 yr old nationalism, contradictions ahoy...definitely a christian.
                      Last edited by randolph85; 12-05-2012, 10:03 PM.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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