Why do hate Israel, when you are part of Israel?

[randolph85]

the bani israel theory is junk

why would having historical roots from a piece of land thousands of years ago make someone unconditionally support the modern day governments criminal actions? your reasoning is absurd.

[Observer]

ah I see what this is about now

1.) no one hates Jews or Hebrews

2.) Israel is opposed because it is an ILLEGAL product of imperialism.

3.) Being against Israel =/= being against Jews/Hebrews

4.) The claim we're descended from the tribes of Israel has been proven false by modern science, we're more related to Turks and Indo-Iranian peoples from ancient times

Suppose Israel was a 'product of Imperialism, how do you think The Arabs conquered Jerusalem, Syria, North Africa, Spain, Anatolia, Caucasia,Persia and Central Asia? You think Israel is so much worse than the Arabs? What makes gives the Arabs more of a right to Israel than the Jews? again you say you are against the principle of imperialism yet you Paktuns glorify your own Durrani empire.The very reason you are Muslim is because of the Arab empire and conquest of Afghanistan.
I really fail to see how Israel is better or worse than any other country in the world. the reason you hate them is because you were indoctrinated to hate them by your imams and your media, imagine most of you have a never met a Jew.

[MostafaM]

Observer,

do yourself a favour and don´t try to argue in favour of an apartheid state with racist people in power and the will to ethnically cleanse "Judäa and Samrriah".

You look foolish when you do that.

And spare us your Zionist-Kindergarten-Rhetorics.

Thank you!

[Admin Khan]

Pashtuns have nothing against Jews. Personally, I have many awesome Jewish friends that I hold very dearly. They've always been there for me when I struggled. Now Observer, Zionism is a different story. Let me ask you a question. Has Israel occupied Palestine? What do you think of illegal settlements that the Jewish government supports?

[randolph85]

Suppose Israel was a 'product of Imperialism, how do you think The Arabs conquered Jerusalem, Syria, North Africa, Spain, Anatolia, Caucasia,Persia and Central Asia? You think Israel is so much worse than the Arabs? What makes gives the Arabs more of a right to Israel than the Jews? again you say you are against the principle of imperialism yet you Paktuns glorify your own Durrani empire.The very reason you are Muslim is because of the Arab empire and conquest of Afghanistan.
I really fail to see how Israel is better or worse than any other country in the world. the reason you hate them is because you were indoctrinated to hate them by your imams and your media, imagine most of you have a never met a Jew.

so when we meet a jew, we will then understand how great he and his people are, thereby accepting that occupation and oppression = good?

[Afghanistan2010]

We do not hate the jews as such but we do show openly our hatred toward the zionist terrorist regime in the name of pissrael i mean israel.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Suppose Israel was a 'product of Imperialism, how do you think The Arabs conquered Jerusalem, Syria, North Africa, Spain, Anatolia, Caucasia,Persia and Central Asia? You think Israel is so much worse than the Arabs? What makes gives the Arabs more of a right to Israel than the Jews? again you say you are against the principle of imperialism yet you Paktuns glorify your own Durrani empire.The very reason you are Muslim is because of the Arab empire and conquest of Afghanistan.
I really fail to see how Israel is better or worse than any other country in the world. the reason you hate them is because you were indoctrinated to hate them by your imams and your media, imagine most of you have a never met a Jew.

Wrong again on your history. Your profile and mannerisms narrow your origin down to 1 of 2 places. Either you are a persian/hazara acolyte or a cross border ANPite. These are the two groups most obsessed with creating some sort of alternative nonexistent history in which its not simply British colonialism or Russian imperialism but rather all roads lead back to Arabia (despite the fact that Saudi Arabia as we know it today did not exist in its kingdom format until the early-second quarter of the last century!).

Let us first take your statement regarding the Arab imperialism of Jerusalem. You simplify history as if to show that Netanyahoo was sitting there all by his lonesome in 700 AD and along game a akhtoo spitting Arab (I find this characterization of Arabic ironic since both persian and Eastern PaKHto have the Kh sound innately) with sword in hand and camel under his thighs.

Wrong. As I note elsewhere - Persians and Byzantines were the FIRST to threaten the Arabs and their autonomy. Khosrau of Iran laid claim to the Hijaz and the Byzantines re-established garrisons there.

Furthermore, the Israelites themselves document in their own Old Testatement that they raided the region and massacred the original natives down to the last child and donkey.

In reality, what you are trying to say is: Hey Pashtuns, guess what now its our turn. You guys did the same thing that all of humanity has done when it comes to conquering. The Palestinians better understand that the language of might equals right is being dictated to them right now. You also better understand that American, Indian, Iranian, and Russian guns are very suitable for our purposes and our own might makes right because your boys in black had Arab, Pakistani, and American might in their own time.

So you are basically frustrated because you view your adversary (i.e. Pashtuns in your view) as threatening your new found holdings since the date 2014 and payback time keep getting mentioned. You never imagined that American resolve and will power is a fleeting thing. As a democracy, various voices in the Americas are beginning to prevail on their people to abandon the useless nation building project that enriches Persio Fascist Emigres and enriches Pakistani military generals.

The funny thing is that Ahmad Shah Mossoud was great friends with the Arabs, including the Big Cahoona and his mentor.

The Hazaras also had their own bosom buddies in Iran and have no issues with Moqtada and his boys in the Baghdad hood.

Do you really think people here are this foolish to not go and fact check and read history?

[Kushan Prince]

First of all Pashtuns are NOT from the lost tribes of israel. This has been proven through genetics countless times. This is just another myth since pashtun history has not been fully reasaerched for mellienums.


Secondly, Jews themselves were non existent before Islam just like their claim on Palestine is bull****. Also Pashto is an indo-eruopean language while Hebrew is a semtic language like Arabic. The reason people make these claims is due to the a lot of words being simmilar. Those words came from Arabic and got mixed with pashto and they were loaned. Of course this was after the arivall of Islam. There's countless proof that pashtuns and Jews are not related. Now stop speaking out of your ass.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Suppose Israel was a 'product of Imperialism, how do you think The Arabs conquered Jerusalem, Syria, North Africa, Spain, Anatolia, Caucasia,Persia and Central Asia? You think Israel is so much worse than the Arabs? What makes gives the Arabs more of a right to Israel than the Jews? again you say you are against the principle of imperialism yet you Paktuns glorify your own Durrani empire.The very reason you are Muslim is because of the Arab empire and conquest of Afghanistan.
I really fail to see how Israel is better or worse than any other country in the world. the reason you hate them is because you were indoctrinated to hate them by your imams and your media, imagine most of you have a never met a Jew.

the Arabs conquered those lands but they never replaced the native populations with their own. The Palestinians of today are people who adopted Arabic as their language. They're more native to the area than the present Israelis are since Israelies are mixed with European now.

Israel formed by forceful genocide and expulsion of the native inhabitants. THAT is Imperialism; just like what Europeans did in the Americas.


I don't glorify the Durrani Empire in fact I am one of the strongest critics of Pashtun imperialism of the past despite myself being of Pashtun heritage.

I don't think you hear me clearly, I DO NOT Hate the Jews or Hebrews, opposing Israel is fair on all ethical grounds. Even Jews who are honest oppose Israel, what does that tell us?

[al-Husayni]

the Arabs conquered those lands but they never replaced the native populations with their own. The Palestinians of today are people who adopted Arabic as their language. They're more native to the area than the present Israelis are since Israelies are mixed with European now.

Israel formed by forceful genocide and expulsion of the native inhabitants. THAT is Imperialism; just like what Europeans did in the Americas.


I don't glorify the Durrani Empire in fact I am one of the strongest critics of Pashtun imperialism of the past despite myself being of Pashtun heritage.

I don't think you hear me clearly, I DO NOT Hate the Jews or Hebrews, opposing Israel is fair on all ethical grounds. Even Jews who are honest oppose Israel, what does that tell us?

Excuse me, but I am from the al-Husayni clan from Jerusalem we are an Arab clan originally from the Hijaz, we are no merely Arabized and we are most certainly not the descndents of Jews/Israelites. What you do not reaslise is that southern Palestine was always part of Arabia even before, plus there were other Arab tribes in biblical times such as the nabateans, Edomites. Ghassanids and Moabites. who lived south of Jerusalem. It is also abosutely true that there was a large scale migration from the Hijaz and from Jordan and Syria of Arabs who conquered northern and central Palestine. Most Palestineans are part of Arab clans. Hamulas/ tribes that cross artificial colonial borders. I believe the Israelites are merely fiction and The Zionists are Europeans who have stolen Arab land.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

al-arab is back

[al-Husayni]

Don't Insult Palestinians by saying we are not Arabs but really converted Jews/Israelites you ungrateful Desi Kalb. It it were not for us you would still be worshiping idols, we help you fight both the Russians and the Americans and yet you are ungrateful. unbelievable.

[torkham]

Alhusayni, do not palestinians disavow being ethnic arabs, do not jordanian (the non-palestinians of course) disassociate themselves from the gulf arabs in terms of culture (for this reason many were happy not to be included in GCC recently), going a bit farther north, do not the lebanese completely reject any arabness by claiming phoenician ancestry and speak with a French lilt to remove any evidence of the guttural kh.

These affectations i have observed amongst the so called arabs of bilad al sham (greater sooriya or greater ancient syria) and the levant, are indeed affectations considering the definition of being arab is divided on lines of language, ethnicity and to lesser extent geography.

[torkham]

Another point al-husyni, given the admixture in palestine over the millennia, isn't it quite noticeable and easy to recognise a palestinian from a bedouin? the idea they may have been people of the sea (see references to grecian/Cretan origin of palestinian in any reference source) becomes plausible from the settlement pattern, from ancient Gaza, Jaffa, hadera to akka (عكأ), leading to stronger conclusion that palestinian are unlikely to be arab and may have adopted arabic language, and subsequently an arabic tag, probably pushed by brits who didn't care to sort wheat from chaff. Whats you opinion as you claim jerusalem connections, therefore better qualified than some of us at PF.

[khushal]

Don't Insult Palestinians by saying we are not Arabs but really converted Jews/Israelites you ungrateful Desi Kalb. It it were not for us you would still be worshiping idols, we help you fight both the Russians and the Americans and yet you are ungrateful. unbelievable.

This is false. If anything it is the other way around. The Arabs have been totally conquerred and the ones that refuse to submit who are just a handful have been given sanctuary in the land that you think you are helping. Remember, the Americans are after those arabs, not pashtuns. OBL was hiding in Afghanistan, not in Arabia. He couldnt find any men in the latter.

Also the palistinians and the Iraqis(former mesopotamia) who you claimed to be from before are all arabized people.