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[MostafaM]

he continuesly insults members in every comment and you woke up just now?

i wonder why an atheist should be a moderator of PASHTUNforums.
but offcourse i understand your defence of fellow "Pashtun"atheist.

quite the bull****

Cry me a river, Susannah!

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I am an ethnocentrist. Thats right.

No, killing so-called "intruders" who had surrendered by the thousands is not ok because it causes revenge attacks and we know what happaned in Masar it fell the second time.

The Nomads ancestral home is where they graze their cattle.
Central Afghanistan is their ancestral home before the Mongolian invasion.

The Nomads central home is where they graze their cattle? They've done that many different places. Is this similar to the Zionist logic that anywhere Jews inhabited becomes "Greater Israel". I'm all for Nomads grazing and I'm all for stopping Hazara militias targeting Nomads, I am not for ethnic-cleansing. You should be demoded for holding such views.

Yes you are an ethnocentrist; and after the prattle you give about justice, Ethnocentrism has been one of the primary vehicles of injustice doesn't seem to match.. Maybe you should leave Germany, the bigoted atmosphere has clouded your judgement.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

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Unfortunatly creating something for your own doesn´t come for free, so you have to fight for it. It´s a struggle.....

And yes, women and children will die like our women and children have died and will continue to die unless we get our stuff together and create something for our own were at the end of the process no one will dare to mess with us again!

[MostafaM]

The Nomads central home is where they graze their cattle? They've done that many different places. Is this similar to the Zionist logic that anywhere Jews inhabited becomes "Greater Israel". I'm all for Nomads grazing and I'm all for stopping Hazara militias targeting Nomads, I am not for ethnic-cleansing. You should be demoded for holding such views.

Yes you are an ethnocentrist; and after the prattle you give about justice, Ethnocentrism has been one of the primary vehicles of injustice doesn't seem to match.. Maybe you should leave Germany, the bigoted atmosphere has clouded your judgement.

I didn´t mention ethnic cleansing anywhere.
I said that justice is that the Nomads can access their land again and everyone who prevented them by force should feel the force when the wind changes.

Being an "ethnocentrist" means for me to love my own.
Loving my people doesn´t mean I hate others as I said in my prior message.

Being a mod is not the center of my life as the internet is yours.
So chill!

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I am definitly not a Taliban supporter but the sole reason why I am happy about 2014 is the once-and-for-all problem solving in central Afghanistan when the Kochi tribals and Taliban fighters cleanse the areas of their ancestral home.

please elaborate by what you mean by "cleanse"?

[ډګروال]

My mother has told me when Pashtuns were going across the border to Pakistan for refuge during the Soviet invasion and shortly after it, they would be stopped by Hazaras, and would either be harassed, mutilated or killed.

your mother is correct they would stop you on the road out of kabul,through pul i charkhi.
My whole family were stopped by these same killers but we got off.
One of them was showing a bloody sword to us saying "we have killed others and you wil die as well".

That certainly doesnt mean i hold hazaras accountable for that as it was done by WAHDATH party.

[ډګروال]

Cry me a river, Susannah!

you will be crying a river the moment you step on paktia and tell people about your gay fantasies.
not just that but now we have an ethnofascist atheist "pashtun" who wants to do an ethnic cleansing.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

your mother is correct they would stop you on the road out of kabul,through pul i charkhi.
My whole family were stopped by these same killers but we got off.
One of them was showing a bloody sword to us saying "we have killed others and you wil die as well".

That certainly doesnt mean i hold hazaras accountable for that as it was done by WAHDATH party.

in your case they should have finished the job

[ډګروال]

in your case they should have finished the job

do you mean me and my family should have been massacred?

coming from a person who dreams of aniliating Afghans by an atomic bomb and having a group of terorist killing muslims,its only understandble.

just because you are an aging loser doesnt mean you take out your frusteration on an online forum and be on it 24/7.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

My mother has told me when Pashtuns were going across the border to Pakistan for refuge during the Soviet invasion and shortly after it, they would be stopped by Hazaras, and would either be harassed, mutilated or killed. I'm not sure why the Western media pays so much attention to 'Hazara discrimination' when many Pashtuns face discrimination in areas heavily populated by Persian speakers. It's quite hypocritical. Discrimination is discrimination, whether a minority group does it or a majority.

And as to your post, fire with fire and blood with blood will not solve anything. They will get what they 'deserve' in 2014? Innocent women and children will probably be killed and murdered in the process. How can you be happy about that? Discrimination only occurs due to ignorance. We should stop with the 'he did and she did it' mentality, and start working on educating the masses in Afghanistan – we should try to find a common ground between the various ethnicities that call Afghanistan home. I've seen some very well-thought of posts from you Mostafa, but I'm disappointed in what you've said in the post that I've quoted.

My friend,

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...ht=time+hazara

Above in that essay I wrote how this cannot be a one sided discussion. The media depiction currently makes Pashtuns, even in the post Taliban era, even in the situation where we are economically embargoed, as the constant aggressor.

Mostafa is speaking on behalf of disenfranchized Kochiaan who actually still get heavy duty harassment from the Hazara.

The common refrain from the folks is that this is Pakistani propaganda to divide etc. If that were the case it would not be Afghan Hazaras giving these interviews and hiding Wahdat affiliations. Pakistan did not put the Hazaras up to that. In reality, there are real ethnic and land disputes. In reality, there are real religious links with outside groups (wahdat and Iran to even the same degree as folks accuse Talibano of links to deoband)

[RevolutionThroughReason]

do you mean me and my family should have been massacred?

.

Just you

just because you cross dress, are angry at women for not being doormats, and don't have manhood to earn your own money instead of live off of public assistance, doesn't mean you can propagandize for terrorists on here 24/7

[ډګروال]

Just you

so you are an homicidal maniac who wishes kids to be killed?

[MostafaM]

you will be crying a river the moment you step on paktia and tell people about your gay fantasies.
not just that but now we have an ethnofascist atheist "pashtun" who wants to do an ethnic cleansing.

Stop fantasizing, Dutch Boy.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

so you are an homicidal maniac who wishes kids to be killed?

you're not even human.

Homicidal Maniacs who want kids to be killed do this.

[ډګروال]

Stop fantasizing, Dutch Boy.

just telling you the crude truth.
mr kartoffel.