Decision on Durand Line Belongs to Afghans, Faizi Says

[randolph85]

http://www.tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/8087-decision-on-durand-line-belongs-to-afghans-faizi-says

President Hamid Karzai's spokesman on Wednesday said the Durand Line dividing Afghanistan and Pakistan is a matter for the Afghan people to decide, dismissing statements by American officials on what the demarcation means under US policy.

Aimal Faizi said the comments of foreigners on the Durand Line will not have any effect on the verdict of the Afghan people, to whom the decision belongs.

"Whatever their position is, it will not affect the Afghan people and government. The Durand Line is a historic matter and it is up to the people of Afghanistan to decide about this," Faizi said at a press conference in Kabul.

The Durand Line Agreement was drawn up by the British in 1893 to divide the Pashtun region between what was then British India and the Kingdom of Afghanistan.

Pakistan inherited the agreement after its partition from the British Raj in 1947 but there has never been an official ratification of the line between Islamabad and Kabul.

Faizi's statement comes US special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman triggered a renewed debate on the demarcation with his comments in an interview on a private television network in Kabul on Sunday.

"Our policy is that border is the international border," Grossman said on October 21. "I think it is time to lift everybody's vision here to a regional conception of what the region could be."

US State Department spokesperson Victora Nuland reiterated Grossman's statement on Tuesday in the US after she was asked by a reporter about the matter.

"Well, our policy on this has not changed. It was correctly stated by Ambassador Grossman that we see this as the internationally recognised boundary," she

said.
The Afghan government has already responded to Grossman's comment with a statement on Tuesday from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying it "rejects and considers irrelevant any statement by anyone about the legal status of this line.

[Niazi]

Afghan government got their propriety wrong ,we Afghan should recognize the line as international boarder ,today Pakhtuns in Pak are truly integrated part of pakistan apart from a very limited number of pakhtuns in KP the overwhelming majority Pakhtuns are patriot pakistanis they are more Pakistani then Ali Janah himself ,we Afghan should accept the fact that we are now two different people,we should get over the idea of reunification ,it's impossible because Pakhtun on the other side don't want it , Afghan government must stop their silly and imbecilic wild goose chase and spend the resources on more important issues we daily facing down here in Afghanistan .

I can't for the life of me understand what in common I would have with a Niazi from Miawli ,we even don't speak the same tongue.

We Afghan should get down off our high horses and face the music,start work for own population instead of idiotic policies.

[randolph85]

it is all for the sake of bravado. the afghan gov't as well as all past governments know that this is an international border that is recognized the world over. i think afghans from afghanistan have gone as far as they can go when it comes to pashtun nationalism and the durand line issue. besides some pashtun nationalist parties who are tied to the hip with the paki government but whisper afg unification on the side, there is no real partner in pakistan. the afghans in afghanistan have had the same stance throughout various governments during the decades, while there has been no positive collective response from the paki pashtuns. unless the paki pashtuns have anything to say about it, id say its a dead issue.

[Azmal]

Sad indeed…was hoping for a statement from so called “nationalist” parties in Pashtunistan in support of Afg gov…but so far they all playing mute…. Certainly, there’s much need change by how we think or preserve the ground realities..… Sentiments must be put aside…but then worst case scenario Durand can be used as a bargain with Punjabian.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Sad indeed…was hoping for a statement from so called “nationalist” parties in Pashtunistan in support of Afg gov…but so far they all playing mute…. Certainly, there’s much need change by how we think or preserve the ground realities..… Sentiments must be put aside…but then worst case scenario Durand can be used as a bargain with Punjabian.

Waa Waa looooll... da kuni tha wegoraa; chana wahee Panjabyaan sara zmenzh mzakeey aw wataan la paraa. Zghalaa kor tha aw khonna key patsha da Telai Bibi Harami! Looool. Dena Makhka Rusyaan darqe konaa warqaa; aw bya Saleh Bibi darkay kona wa seekho, aw bya Bush darqey wemendel... aw tharossa ghap ghap dha spee pa raqam key.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

For those of you jujst joining the festivities... here is this fag-got proving he has NO basic knowledge of Pashto that an American soldier who spends three days in Afghanistan figures out:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...ighlight=spaag

You silly spee; da spee bacheeyaa... LOLLL. There are hundreds of words for dog in Pashto. The word, for your species in one dialect is Sagzh; NOT spaag you fu-cking idiot. I've already been informed about your roots by someone who has known you for some time. Time to pick up the Pashto books again.

The word you confused it with is SPEGA which is Yusufzai dialect for Louse. I agree that your species is some sort of hybrid between lice and dog... but please Azmal... quit insulting your own mother for our benefit.

So lets see..
if it walks like a duck (your loyalty to Saleh)
and it talks like a duck (your ass starts to itch when you feel your backers are threatened)
And it cannot even talk like a Pashtun first grader
Its definitly a Persian Mongoloid named Azz-smell

[Kushan Prince]

Inshallah, Loy Afghanistan will be reunited and the Durand line will be broken for good. Pakistan is a haram state created by the British, hope our brothers on the other side realize this one day.

[asad71]

Any chance of Afghanistan and Pakistan uniting with Peshawar as the capital?

[KGODB]

Afghan government got their propriety wrong ,we Afghan should recognize the line as international boarder ,today Pakhtuns in Pak are truly integrated part of pakistan apart from a very limited number of pakhtuns in KP the overwhelming majority Pakhtuns are patriot pakistanis they are more Pakistani then Ali Janah himself ,we Afghan should accept the fact that we are now two different people,we should get over the idea of reunification ,it's impossible because Pakhtun on the other side don't want it , Afghan government must stop their silly and imbecilic wild goose chase and spend the resources on more important issues we daily facing down here in Afghanistan .

I can't for the life of me understand what in common I would have with a Niazi from Miawli ,we even don't speak the same tongue.

We Afghan should get down off our high horses and face the music,start work for own population instead of idiotic policies.

completely agree. we wasted enough blood, treasure and time on this issue

[abassinafghan]

Any chance of Afghanistan and Pakistan uniting with Peshawar as the capital?

any chance that you are brain amputated ???



the point is not that the any current afghan goverment INCLUDING taliboon could manage to break the punjabos and take what is ours ,

BUT one should never give up a claim , especially not in international affairs !!!!

its not about wether we can get it or not , but the future may change , despite that the pakis would not stop their interaction in our affairs , regardless we accepted the border or not .

the point of sole selfcontainment of the pakis are already passed , they are not aiming for the integrity of their yahudi british state but they belive they can manage to conquer a fifth province ....

and sadly aslong dirtbags are out their who are more concernd about their own rule , regardless how they gained it and legitimising it by telling the people they bring islam , you can be sure the napaks will manage to keep us dependent

[Afghanistan2010]

I personally very welcome the new kind of approach by Barakzai.

Derra manana for lighting up our eyes,unleashing our wprds on those i can quote here just the words of the barbarian talib firing on U.S troops under Commander Dawran,in the east.

wallay da khra zaman,mazghay raway basse de dagho kharku-ssano,ma awray.

Taliban - Behind the Masks - YouTube

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Sad indeed…was hoping for a statement from so called “nationalist” parties in Pashtunistan in support of Afg gov…but so far they all playing mute…. Certainly, there’s much need change by how we think or preserve the ground realities..… Sentiments must be put aside…but then worst case scenario Durand can be used as a bargain with Punjabian.

Better late then never:

Statement from Pashtunkhwa Mili Awami Party (Achakzai's party):

لر او بر افغان يو ولس دى، يو ملت دى او دا کرښه هيڅ وخت نه لر او نه بر افغان منلې ده. که غلط ونه اوسم دا د ملګرو ملتونو په منشور کې هم راغلي، چې که له يوه وېش او کرښې څخه يو ملت اغېزمن کېږي، د دې پرېکړه به د کرښې دواړو غاړو ته پراته خلک کوي، د دې واک نه له افغان حکومت، ولسمشر کرزي سره او نه د پاکستان له حکومت سره شته، د دې واک له هغو ولسونو سره دى چې د دې کرښې له امله اغېزمن دي

And here's one from the ANP, which is predictably more watered-down:

د عوامي نېشنل ګوند موقف واضح دى، چي دا د افغانانو ګډه پرېکړه ده او دا به افغانان پخپله کوي. لر او بر افغانان له ډيورنډ کرښې سره تړلي دي او دا ډېر لوى سوال دى، زه نه پوهېږم چي د امريکا يو عام استازى (زه خاص هم نه ورته وايم) راځي او دومره لويه پرېکړه کوي، ده دا خبره په کوم صلاحيت کړې ده.

http://pa.azadiradio.org/content/article/24750133.html

[Khostai]

I think Pakistany Pashtuns should show some initiative about this issue, its always from one derection. Why are Majority of Pashtuns in Pakistan so quiet, I think they are not really that happy to join Afghanistan.

[MostafaM]

Pashtuns are a greedy nation.
It´s sad to admit it but that´s the case.

Let Afghanistan flourish and become economically culturally strong and then see how the "Pathans" will flood the place.

In the 60s and 70s, Pakistanis were flouding Kabul on Independence Day Celebrations not because they liked our independence so much but because there was no cultural equivalent in their coutntry.

Older Afghans tell me how amazed they were when they came and saw what Afghanistan was.

[abassinafghan]

People on twitter are going crazy over this, Pashtuns are happy its being brought up, the Tajiks are hating it and the Punjabis are silent

thats the big fear , the fear of the punjabis , the fear of the iranians , the fear of the tajiks uzbeks hazaras and the rest .

but its not a legitimized fear at least not for the afghans , but a fear for their new power role , even they treat their own people like **** .


some tajik facists would ink and sign any agreement with the pakis , because they belive they could settle their share of power , which they belive to loose if an afghan state would be settled with a absolute total pashtun majority.

but they dont realize they would be bullied the same way like now , the life of no average tajik or uzbek or hazara would become better .

but because our people are soo greedy and short sighted every one thinks only about the fast buck and dont realizing the loos on the long term .