Punjabi ISI Colonel Imam: ‘I have the Green Beret but the Taleban beret is better’

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You are supporting their stand. Are Americans then wrong for wishing to have a pro government in Kabul, or India, or the Soviets before for that matter?

[khyaal]

As an Afghan you are ok with others dictating to you the government you should have? What is the difference between them and peerangyaan then?

I don't bother about afghans, Punabis or Peerangyan. I'm with those who offer me the higher bid. lol.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

You are supporting their stand. Are Americans then wrong for wishing to have a pro government in Kabul, or India, or the Soviets before for that matter?

BLS!! who is "their" ??

I don't bother about afghans, Punabis or Peerangyan. I'm with those who offer me the higher bid. lol.

well, too bad for you then. One more thing, do you apply your views and viewpoints before actually getting to know someone??

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Their as in Pak establishment, army and strategic interests. They are as destructive if not more than the others wishes to use Afghanistan as their backyard.

[khyaal]

BLS!! who is "their" ??



well, too bad for you then. One more thing, do you apply your views and viewpoints before actually getting to know someone??

Your posts have spoiled my curiosity to know about you.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Their as in Pak establishment, army and strategic interests. They are as destructive if not more than the others wishes to use Afghanistan as their backyard.

As an argument, India, being some 500 kilometers at the nearest point is allowed and welcome if it shows its teeth in Afghanistan, meddling in its affairs, setting up consulates exponentially even in remote villages but if a Pakistani even mentions the name Afghanistan, he is the biggest sinner alive??

As for as the destructive policy, was it destructing when there were the Commies, if it was then we would all be singing to Comrade Lenin right now.

Was it destructive in the 90s? those were a people who fairly liberated the majority of Afghanistan from lust driven, greedy, self serving and despotic war lords. It is blamed on Pakistan, but who actually was ousted, the evil warlords or someone else? and do people actually accept those were the most peaceful times in Afghanistan?

Was it destructive after the Kayda incident? Well, we certainly have lost 30,000 people fighting these very Kaydas that some people so easily blame on us. What a stupid way of making up killers then getting them to kill yourselves.

You guys can play the blame game as you like, but it always ends without facts, without evidence, and only as some teenagers angry emotions.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Your posts have spoiled my curiosity to know about you.

I do not find that surprising at all considering what you like to post!!!

hate, hate, hate, without proof, without facts.

[khyaal]

I do not find that surprising at all considering what you like to post!!!

hate, hate, hate, without proof, without facts.

I work for the re-union of afghans, while you preach subjugation to colonialist Punjab, the historic enenmies of pashtun/afghans and afghanistan.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

I work for the re-union of afghans, while you preach subjugation to colonialist Punjab, the historic enenmies of pashtun/afghans and afghanistan.

You accuse 80 million Muslims and my countrymen of things they are not.
Yet you probably everyday work, speak, live with Tajiks, Uzbeks and other non Afghans. You dont find them any trouble. They are completely nice to you.

This is basically hypocrisy, either you call both bad or both good.

what you dont wanna accept is the truth. The truth that neither the Uzbek, Tajik not the Punjabis are our enemies.

All of these people are just normal human beings and Muslims like you and me. They are not our enemies.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

As an argument, India, being some 500 kilometers at the nearest point is allowed and welcome if it shows its teeth in Afghanistan, meddling in its affairs, setting up consulates exponentially even in remote villages but if a Pakistani even mentions the name Afghanistan, he is the biggest sinner alive??

As for as the destructive policy, was it destructing when there were the Commies, if it was then we would all be singing to Comrade Lenin right now.

Was it destructive in the 90s? those were a people who fairly liberated the majority of Afghanistan from lust driven, greedy, self serving and despotic war lords. It is blamed on Pakistan, but who actually was ousted, the evil warlords or someone else? and do people actually accept those were the most peaceful times in Afghanistan?

Was it destructive after the Kayda incident? Well, we certainly have lost 30,000 people fighting these very Kaydas that some people so easily blame on us. What a stupid way of making up killers then getting them to kill yourselves.

You guys can play the blame game as you like, but it always ends without facts, without evidence, and only as some teenagers angry emotions.

No don't dramatize this Khushaal, speak with some foundation. Both countries have their strategic interest vis a vis Afghanistan. The difference is that India is actually positively investing in the region, Pakistan is not (and when it does it also brings in militants). You have to understand that this policy has had a negative impact on Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line.

These warlords were propped up and supported by the West and Saudi via the ISI, they were called the Peshawar 7 for a reason. Why do you ignore that? Taliban can bring that type of peace to your village and to the rest of Pakistan as well. Will you support them? Of course you won't, but you want to lord this over the rest of Afghanistan. I personally don't mind any political faction working in Afghanistan, provided they are working for Afghanistan and don't take their orders elsewhere. You don't support that, rather you are defending the policy of GHQ. That is the difference between me and you.

I have backed all my arguments with facts, and I have even counter-argued your links as well. You even tried to blame the taliban problem in Pashtunkhwa on India, which was nicely debunked. Now the reality is that you are moving into reactionary territory to defend a state that has not had any positive policy towards your own people for the past 30 years. If India did even half of this, I would have blamed them as well. You are washing a country's sins under the carpet..this is not due to right or wrong, but your sense of attachment to it.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

It is not an issue of friends and enemies, just interests. And as of now, our interests run contrary to that of Pak establishment. I am not a donkey that I will blindly support this policy.

[khyaal]

You accuse 80 million Muslims and my countrymen of things they are not.

Your talking of those muslims who killed 30 million of Bengali muslims just to punish them for asking their due rights?

Yet you probably everyday work, speak, live with Tajiks, Uzbeks and other non Afghans.

I belong to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and I have seen all of them passing through the same miseries and humiliation as were Pakhtuns in the different camps in and around Peshawar. And this all was not caused by some natural disaster, but by the heinous colonialist agenda of Punjab.

btw, I don't know which nation in Pakistan you belong to?

You dont find them any trouble. They are completely nice to you.

Yes we have people in Chitral, Kohistan, Peshawar who speak different languages and I consider them as people of my own community.

This is basically hypocrisy, either you call both bad or both good.

Why I should call Kohistani, Chitralis, Uzbeks, Dari speaking afghans, hindokoans as bad? I don't find any reason for this.

what you dont wanna accept is the truth. The truth that neither the Uzbek, Tajik not the Punjabis are our enemies.

Chitralis, hindkoans, Gujars, Kohistanis, Baloch, Tajik, uzbek all are my afghan brothers.

I talk only about Punjab who have institutionalised their colonialism. And Pashtuns are not alone in this matter. The people of East Bengal have passed through the same thing as we Pashtuns, Baluch, Seraikis and Sindhis are passing through right now.

All of these people are just normal human beings and Muslims like you and me. They are not our enemies.

The Indians and Bengalis, Baluch, Sindhis too are normal human beings. Why don't I talk about them, why you have so much hatred for them?

You can't justify your clienthood and advocacy for them by posing as innoncent. People like you are as involved in crime against oppressed nations as your colonial Punjabi masters.