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    Controversial plan to split up Afghanistan

    Controversial plan to split up Afghanistan
    A Tory MP proposes dividing the country into zones, some of which could involve the Taliban

    Afghanistan could be carved into eight separate "kingdoms" – with some of them potentially ruled by the Taliban – according to a controversial plan under discussion in London and Washington.

    Code-named "Plan C", the radical blueprint for the future of Afghanistan sets out reforms that would relegate President Hamid Karzai to a figurehead role.

    Devised by the Conservative MP and Foreign Office aide Tobias Ellwood, it warns that the country faces a "bleak" future when it is left to fend for i...

    Controversial plan to split up Afghanistan
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/controversial-plan-to-split-up-afghanistan-8120167.html
    A Tory MP proposes dividing the country into zones, some of which could involve the Taliban
    Tags: afghanistan, controversial, plan, split
  • #2
    Why not brake the UK in some separate kingdoms like Ireland, Wales and Scottland - as these nice Englishmen have massacred very well the Celtic populations.
    Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
    Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,
    Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
    Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:
    Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
    Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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    • #3
      I hope people who read this still don't believe the West wants to help us evolve and progress.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #4
        LOL, they will never succeed in this. They better let Britaine separate in to difrent states, thise evil a-hole angrez are the children of the Devil, and they always ask why to the muslims hate us. This is one of the reasons.

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          A Tory MP proposes hacking up Afghanistan into separate “kingdoms”, each ruled by a foreign power, and to include members of the Taliban.
          The plan is the brainchild of conservative MP and Foreign Office aide Tobias Ellwood, a former army captain in the Royal Green Jackets, and is already under discussion in London and Washington, according to a report which was seen by the British newspaper The Independent on Sunday.
          The report puts forward a regionalized state under a powerful new prime minster and would attempt to deal with weak government, corruption and tribal disputes, which have plagued Afghanistan.
          The blueprint – which has been labeled Plan C – is to split Afghanistan up into eight zones based around the economic hubs of Kabul, Kandahar, Herat, Mazar-i-Sharif, Kunduz, Jalalabad, Khost and Bayman.
          The areas would then be governed by a council representing different ethnic groups and overseen by one or more foreign countries; in the same way that Berlin was run after the Second World War.
          Other options being considered include Plan A, to turn Afghanistan into a smoothly functioning democracy and Plan B, to hand the war over to the Afghan security forces, which would be overseen by American military advisors.
          Ellwood warned that Afghanistan faces a bleak future once the International Security Force (ISAF) withdraws at the end of 2014. He also said that “The Taliban will not enter into a meaningful dialogue if there is no feasible political strategy within which they can participate.”
          But experts on Afghanistan were critical of the plan, which they view as a colonial attempt to impose a democratic system. Instead, Western powers should think about a military exit strategy that would enable them to withdraw their forces by the 2014 deadline.
          Thomas Ruttig, co-director of the Afghanistan Analysis Network said: “Splitting the country into such regions will result in the empowerment of what we have started calling “local or regional powerbrokers,” what were previously known as “warlords”, whose misrule between 1992 and 1996 caused the rise of the Taliban in the first place.”
          While Wazma Frogh, executive director of Afghanistan’s Research Institute for Woman Peace and Security, was more scathing.
          “Who is this British MP sitting in London and deciding for Afghanistan? It should be us the people of this country, deciding if we want to divide into states and collapse as a nation,” she said.
          The current plan, when ISAF troops finally pull out, is to leave several thousand American trainers in the country in the hope that the Afghans will be largely able to police themselves; similar to the situation set up in Iraq after the withdrawal of Coalition forces in 2010.

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          • #6
            Revealed: Tory adviser's 'Plan C' for Afghanistan which involves splitting country into 'kingdoms' - and giving some to Taliban

            Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz25zwGdwlZ

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            • #7
              Something devilish up "English's" sleeves as usual.

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              • #8
                When will they learn to mind their own business.
                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                • #9
                  these days, it is usually america planning every other countries future.
                  what's happening here admin, your government letting power slip from their mitts?

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                  • #10
                    Brits always **** up everything
                    Ppl have to be really ****ed up In the head if they wanna help them(paki talibs)

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                    • #11
                      Tobais Ellwood a Tory MP is the main architect behind the plan c,

                      White British have grudge for afghans ,they never forgot the 3 wars .
                      Tories always been closet racisets ,as they say leopard never change his spots.
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                      • #12
                        i hope that island sinks. the british are historically one of the most evil nation of people on earth.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                          • #14
                            The British just need to stay out out of foreign affairs, they ruin every country that they go to. It seems as the Brits are good at splitting nations apart as they did to India and made Pakistan. But this won't happen as the afghan people are to strong to be told by other nations what to do, as history says. Inshallah.
                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

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                              History is there to remind..us.Powered by Translate The British Strategy For Global Conquest
                              There is an invisible power which secretly rules
                              From voxnyc
                              The British Strategy For Global Conquest
                              http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishstraegyglobalconquest29jun05.shtml
                              Franklin Roosevelt knew of the Pearl Harbor at least attack 6 weeks before it happened. I had first hand telephone conversations with retired Navy officer Duane Whitlock before he passed away in which he told me that he was part of the Navy decoding team that deciphered the Japanese code in the late 1930s. He was part of the group that intercepted the Japanese transmissions that indicated their battle group was going to attack Pearl Harbor and he was present when this information was relayed to upper Navy brass. This was at least six weeks before the attack.

                              Posted E-Y June 29, 2005
                              Written ca. 2002
                              http://www.voxfux.com/features/global_conquest.html
                              U.S, following 100 year old British Strategy
                              The military strategists of the British Empire have long had an actual plan for the military conquest and enslavement of the entire planet, and this plan for global conquest was based on the military realities which they believed any would-be world conqueror would encounter. The British strategic plan for world conquest and the military perspective which it is based upon both predate World War One, and both probably existed long before that. The earliest known statement of this plan for world conquest was expressed by imperial strategist Halford Mackinder, who outlined the central global strategic problem in 1904 in a letter to the British Royal Geographical Society. The letter was entitled, "The Geographical Pivot of History." The most pertinent part of this letter is quoted later on, and requires only a minimum of reading between the lines.
                              The most recent significant restatement of this plan for world conquest was made by Zbigniew Brzezinski, who asserted that world domination would require the conquest of the center of the Eurasian landmass. They also believed that if they did not seize the Eurasian interior, whoever was in possession of it would have the global strategic edge, and would thus likely ultimately go on to conquer the world.
                              Here’s why they formed this military perspective. Britain was a naval power, and therefore, as a rule of thumb, they could apply military force with relative ease near the shores of the oceans anywhere on the globe. That was the good news. The bad news was that the further from the coast their military objective was, the harder it was to apply force to it. The invading British armies were tethered to their fleets, because their armies needed the re-supply and the firepower support of their navy.
                              Look at a map of the world. You will see that the area furthest from any ocean is the deep interior of the Eurasian land mass. The British reasoned that if they could conquer the Eurasian interior, they would then be able to apply force from this region against the neighboring countries while the British fleet would attack as usual against their coastal regions. Thus Russia, China, India and all of Europe would be forever under British military dominance, and thereby be eliminated as competitors in the struggle for world conquest. They reasoned that the remainder of the globe was a far lesser military challenge, which could be managed with relative military ease by the British fleet, and thus easily accessible coastal regions of the remainder of the world were not the focus of their military plans as was the absolutely vital Eurasian interior.
                              One of the agenda items of the British Empire is the culling of most of the people on the planet Earth. They also intend that the mass of the remaining population will be reduced to peasant social status, and kept in perpetual ignorance so that any revolt against their overlords will be impossible. By these means they intend to establish a global empire which will rule the world for all time without any possibility of being overthrown, either by any competing empires, which will all have been eliminated, or by the peasants, who will be held in perpetual bondage and therefore likewise unable to rise up against the oligarchs.
                              The following quoted passage is from a letter written by British imperial strategist Halford Mackinder to the British Royal Geographical Society. The letter was entitled, "The Geographical Pivot of History."
                              "As we consider this rapid review of the broader currents of history, does not a certain persistence of geographical relationship become evident? Is not the pivot region of the world’s politics that vast area of Euro-Asia which is inaccessible to ships, but in antiquity lay open to the horse riding nomads, and is today about to be covered with a network of railways. There have been and are here the conditions of a mobility of military and economic power of a far-reaching and yet limited character. Russia replaces the Mogul empire. Her pressure on Finland, on Scandinavia, on Poland, on Turkey, on Persia, on India, on China replaces the centrifugal raids of the steppe-men. In the world at large she occupies the central strategically position held by Germany in Europe. In conclusion, it may be well expressly to point out that the substitution of some new control of inland area for that of Russia would not tend to reduce the geographical significance of the pivot point. Were the Chinese, for instance, organized by the Japanese, to overthrow the Russian Empire and conquer its territory, they might constitute the Yellow Peril to the world’s freedom."
                              The following passage is quoted from the book, "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives," which was written by Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1997.
                              ""In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitical axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)
                              Other statements in his book make it clear that Brzezinski’s geographic focus is on the new Islamic nations of South Central Asia that were formed out of the Breakup of the Soviet Union. Note that Brzezinski even used the name "Oceania" to refer to the British Empire.
                              The British plan for world conquest also called for the de-industrialization of all other nations so they would not be able to build modern weapons to fight back against British attacks. All major nations of the world were industrializing in the years prior to World War One, and the British Imperialists decided that all other nations must be both de-industrialized and depopulated so that they would never again be potential rivals for world domination.
                              The British reasoned that Russia was their primary rival for world dominance, partly because of it occupied much of the strategic heart of the Eurasian land mass, and partly because it huge population and abundant natural resources gave it vast military potential. Other smaller potential rivals such as France, Germany and Japan would be crushed later and reduced to depopulated puppet states with plantation economies. America, was not considered an immediate potential rival because it was effectively re-colonized and under British control, and had been since the assassination of President McKinley by British design in 1901.
                              The British planned to provoke a war between Russia and Germany so that Russia would be crushed and forced to accept a British-controlled puppet government that would de-industrialized Russia, and thus make it unable to defend the Eurasian heartland. The British also hoped that Germany would be exhausted by all the fighting, and would thus be an easy opponent in a subsequent war which would likewise result in its de-industrialization and depopulation. It didn’t really matter to the British strategists which side Britain would be on in the war; their primary goal was the destruction of Russia industry, and the weakening of Germany as a hoped for bonus. The British imperialists didn’t care much about the form of the new Russian government. The British didn’t care if the new Russian government was communist or fascist or whatever; all they really cared about was that the new Russian government would suppress industrialization.
                              The British imperialists both planned and instigated World War One, but unfortunately for them, their primary goal of de-industrializing Russia was not achieved. Russia was defeated, but the post-war communist government instituted a program of industrialization and re-armament under both Lenin and Stalin. The post World War One situation looked exactly like the pre World War One situation as far as the disappointed British Imperialists were concerned. Russia was still the number one rival because of its dominance of Eurasia, and because it still had its huge population, and worst of all because it was still industrializing. Their other potential rivals were likewise still industrializing, just exactly as they were before the war.
                              The British imperialists planned and instigated World War Two in order to achieve the exact same strategic goal they had failed to achieve with World War One, and they used the exact same plan because in their eyes the strategic situation had not changed at all. The British imperialists therefore instigated World War Two between Russia and Germany in order to achieve the exact same goal, and once again they failed. Post war Russia continued to industrialize, and they were still in possession of the heart of Eurasia.
                              The Geostrategic situation is pretty much the same today as it was both before and after the two world wars that the British instigated, and all the evidence indicates that the British strategic plan for conquering the world remains exactly the same today as it was prior to World War One. The British and their puppet ally America have established military bases deep in the heart of Eurasia in the Islamic states that were formerly part of the old Soviet Union. They have invaded Afghanistan and are preparing to invade Iraq.
                              They will not abandon their campaign of looting of Eurasia, and they will not stop their callous slaughter of Asian people unless they are defeated militarily. If they succeed in their criminal aggression, they will be forced by their own imperial logic to go on and instigate similar wars of aggression against all their remaining potential rivals. Both China and India are now immensely powerful and growing in economic might and military capability. Both Britain and its puppet ally America are declining relative to both China and India in economic ability and military might. The Anglo-Americans have lost their nuclear monopoly. The Chinese will develop missiles capable of reaching America and Britain.
                              Time is working against the Anglo-Americans in both economic and military terms. The longer Britain waits to attack China and slaughter it back to the stone age, the harder the task will be. The British and their American stooge ally will not be able to defeat China if they wait another twenty years. Their own logic tells them that it is now or never as far as the British Empire is concerned. Britain will either conquer the world within the next few years, or Britain and its stooge ally America will slide first into insignificance, and then both will be torn apart in starvation-induced internal wars because they will no longer be able to extort the resources of the world at gunpoint.
                              In conclusion, it is clear that the century-old plan of the British for the conquest of the world is still in effect. It also seems undeniable that the culling of most of the world’s population is a necessary and therefore built-in part of their plan to conquer the world. The exact role that vaccinations and other devices of mass murder [E.g. chemtrails] will play in this blueprint for the coming global slaughter is still unclear. The British aristocracy regards this as their last throw of the dice to achieve world domination. From their perspective, it is now all or nothing. By their own perspective and by their own logic, these aristocrats will be compelled to use every device at their disposal, especially those of mass destruction . The British aristocrats fear that if they fail, they will be overthrown because they are utterly useless parasites, and the British people will rise in the wake of so many of them being used up in a war whose only goal is to preserve the dominance of the useless aristocrats.
                              Their hatred of humanity and the wickedness of their envisioned global and eternal police state should prepare us to expect them to employ every weapon at their disposal no matter how horrible. The recent media-friendly terrorist attack was the latest bit of theater in their final bid at world conquest. We can expect more such incidents, including even a nuclear detonation on American, which will precede the erection of a complete police state here in America, without which their plan for global conquest will not succeed.
                              The British aristocrats are not the daffy, absent-minded twits depicted in the mass media. These British aristocrats and their banker bedmates are the worst collection of cold-blooded gangsters and cynical mass murderers ever assembled. They will use diseases, revolutions, starvation, planned economic disasters, civil wars, concentration camps, nuclear bombs, and mass murder by vaccinations both here and abroad until such time as they win, or until they are removed from power. This broad outline of their plan for world conquest will provide a framework for understanding events as the world plunges toward this very real Armageddon unfolding in Asia.


                              I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                              I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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