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  • #16
    Originally posted by r3alist View Post
    this is puzzling and intriguing at the same time

    1. where do you get the figure of 40 billion from? is this figure a net income minus expenditures?

    2. what connection is there between pak's nuclear programme and the soviet/afghan war? moreso what does the black market have to do with it?

    3.so they got absorbed into pakistan - or the boundaries which are acknowledged as pakistan for your benefit

    Look! I will cite you an example here. When Musharraf dethroned Nawaz's government back in 1999, there were only 300 million dollars in Pakistan's national exchequer but ten years later after the 9/11 you had more than 10 billions as foreing exchange reserves. Now my question is what miraculous business Pakistan started after the 9/11 that it got so much money in those ensuing years? Isn't this the money earned through the blood of Pashtun/afghans both in Pakhtunkhwa and afghanistan?

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    • #17
      Btw, what is so special about Punjab and its strategic location that the US sanctioned billions of dollars in the Kerry-Lugar bill? Isn't this the black mail money which the US pays Pakistan/Punjagb to stop sending militant groups to Pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by khyaal View Post
        Look! I will cite you an example here. When Musharraf dethroned Nawaz's government back in 1999, there were only 300 million dollars in Pakistan's national exchequer but ten years later after the 9/11 you had more than 10 billions as foreing exchange reserves. Now my question is what miraculous business Pakistan started after the 9/11 that it got so much money in those ensuing years? Isn't this the money earned through the blood of Pashtun/afghans both in Pakhtunkhwa and afghanistan?

        honestly i do not know about the exchange reserves, i will not deny that our corrupt politicians have sold the country, their people and the afghan people for some $$$$ - but if the tables were turned would the afghans act differently - i dont think so, $$$ corrupts everyone, even your own govt is more corrupt than ours according to transparency international


        believe me every pak person hopes one day our people will be free from these snakes

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        • #19
          Originally posted by r3alist View Post
          honestly i do not know about the exchange reserves, i will not deny that our corrupt politicians have sold the country, their people and the afghan people for some $$$$ - but if the tables were turned would the afghans act differently - i dont think so, $$$ corrupts everyone, even your own govt is more corrupt than ours according to transparency international


          believe me every pak person hopes one day our people will be free from these snakes

          Pakistan recently got 3 f-16 and another 15 in the near future. If the corrupt politicians even devour all the money of the developmental budget( which is very very improbable) they still can't match these generals who take commission or bribes during the purchase of just one fighter plane. Pakistan got destitute only due to the corruption of immoral generals and its rogue army who have converted the country ito a security state always at war with its neighbours and with the oppressed component nations inside Pakistan.

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          • #20
            Realist

            When your home is flattened by a Pak air force bombardment, and you are made homeless and turned into a IDP then you will realise if animosity is logical or illogical.

            Why dont you go to the tribal region of Pakhtunkhwa and see for yourself the turmoil and hell that Pashtuns have to go through.

            Also take some time and research on why the whole world distrusts Pakistan and you are considered a state of terrorists.

            Kind Regards

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            • #21
              brother maseed.

              We pashtuns are radical, why do we blame isi .There could be isi money on it ,i agree. But the fault lies within. You could see that by the behaviour of some members here. Showing that we are prone to radicalization.
              Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
              Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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              • #22
                Animosity towards Pakistan is natural and no one can turn it another way round. Ya money can press it for some time and religion can exploit for some time, however facts cannot be changed.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
                  brother maseed.

                  We pashtuns are radical, why do we blame isi .There could be isi money on it ,i agree. But the fault lies within. You could see that by the behaviour of some members here. Showing that we are prone to radicalization.
                  When 22,00000-3000000 Punjabi army was fighting for the British Imperialists to expand British empire and prolong their own servitude, was it caused by the radicalization (to fight for the enemy instead of fighting with the enemy) of Punjab or helplessness before the British?

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                  • #24
                    It was ameer abdur rahman who signed the pact with brits.
                    why do you blame panjabis ?
                    Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
                    Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
                      It was ameer abdur rahman who signed the pact with brits.
                      why do you blame panjabis ?
                      But again it was Punjab's Army which weakened Afghanistan by attacking Afghanistan under the British command to expand their master's empire. It was Punjab who fought in the middle east and thus caused the collapse of Khilafat.

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                      • #26
                        it was indian army.
                        It contained hindus,sikhs and yes there were muslims of panjab as well.
                        But you would call india an ally.
                        why this double standard
                        Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
                        Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                          When your home is flattened by a Pak air force bombardment, and you are made homeless and turned into a IDP then you will realise if animosity is logical or illogical.
                          you continuously post illogical fantastic fantacies that have never seen the light of day. I suggest you actually visit the place even once in your life before posting such fairy tales.

                          Originally posted by Sher Khan View Post
                          it was indian army.
                          It contained hindus,sikhs and yes there were muslims of panjab as well.
                          But you would call india an ally.
                          why this double standard

                          There are some, only a minority here, who have either been misled or made to believe a twisted history and facts. But what this would actually serve I do not understand.

                          They can continue to feel sorry for themselves or they can actually start living in the real world. I hope they do the latter.


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by khyaal View Post
                            But again it was Punjab's Army which weakened Afghanistan by attacking Afghanistan under the British command to expand their master's empire. It was Punjab who fought in the middle east and thus caused the collapse of Khilafat.
                            How old are you brother, 6, 8 or 10?

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                            • #29
                              See it is not against anyone, however mayn reasons are there for the destruction of Pashtuns, and after 1947, punjabis are one of the main reason and then hate towards such people is natural. I think PAshtuns as a nation also dont like Arab, however they blackmail by religion then. I think, pashtuns of pakhtoonkhwa also put their part in Afghanistan destruction however there were and are many pashtoons form pakhtoonkhwa who helped, encouarged and support Afghan cause, therefore the reaction is also accordingly then.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                                How old are you brother, 6, 8 or 10?
                                Why? Have you just landed from Mars?

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