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  • #76
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    Actually in NATOs context and view, they liberated Afghansitan. liberation would be to bring security and freedom to the people. So they are responsible for secutiy.
    No that's NATO's narrative, totally different than context.


    point it out please.
    http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA484261




    but we dont know who is under his direct orders. You seem to not understand Afghansitan. Each commander is independent, they do what they want and many commanders fight each other all the time. This is not new, this happened during the Soviet war as well. Also this happens in FATA. Every area has their own local emir.
    Making baya'ah says Mullah Umar is the leader.

    This also exist from the afghangovernment/NATO side as well. Do you beleive that this group that killed civilians were directly ordered by Karzai or NATO command. It is highly unlikely.
    http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...396#post640396
    false dichotomy we're not arguing that karzai or NATO have legitimacy or that they're good or competent.
    Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 09-03-2012, 12:39 AM.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
      No that's NATO's narrative, totally different than context.
      Their context is the same as their narrative.

      http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA484261
      http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...t=omar+message

      Making baya'ah says Mullah Umar is the leader.
      they are not folowing his orders see the above link. the insurgency is not centralized.

      false dichotomy we're not arguing that karzai or NATO have legitimacy or that they're good or competent.
      I know we are not arguing about that but the same is happening on both sides. Neither the Taliban nor the afghan governmnet/NATO authority is centralized.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Their context is the same as their narrative.
        no context and narrative means different things; you're simply wrong on this one by definition.


        http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...t=omar+message

        they are not folowing his orders see the above link. the insurgency is not centralized.
        he's responsble for making sure they follow his orders, see logic


        I know we are not arguing about that but the same is happening on both sides. Neither the Taliban nor the afghan governmnet/NATO authority is centralized.
        No the Taliban are centralized; see YOUR link above, heh
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by faye View Post
          according to khushal, the taliban don't have to take resposibility when they are in control of afghanistan, only the occupiers.
          everyone have to take responsibity. but the afghan people have to deal with them. Its their future, they have to decide what is best for them, not outsiders. The afghan government of today are full of western afghans who dont care about the future of afghanistan and are stealing everything and anything they can for their own short term gain while not caring for the afghan population or the populations future.
          It an afghan problem and it needs an afghan solution.

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          • #80
            is that possible? i agree that those in control now appear to be rogues and it would be great to see a solution ffrom within, but according to your prediction, there will be chaos when the occupiers leave, between tribes. then, i assume, they will be asking for and/or getting assistance from outsiders, again.
            most likely the neighbours, again.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              Ok who in your opinion brought down the world trade center towers?
              you still haven't answered this question, khushal.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                Ok who in your opinion brought down the world trade center towers?
                Originally posted by faye View Post
                you still haven't answered this question, khushal.
                Lets see if you could understand this picture and how it relates to your question. HINT: (ROOT CAUSE)

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                • #83
                  oh, a book brought down the towers. must have been a big one, khushal.

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                  • #84
                    I knew you were going to say that.

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                    • #85
                      oh, you know how to express yourself without pictures, now? clever boy.

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                        • #87
                          do you waste your time creating these limp things yourself koosh, or they are canned comments?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            Lets see if you could understand this picture and how it relates to your question. HINT: (ROOT CAUSE)


                            danced around my question; I didn't ask what were the hypothesized causes, I asked who brought it down , I'll be waiting for your intellectually honest reply whenever you decide to enter manhood and get some courage to do so.
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #89
                              Khushal's arguments are a conspiracy theorists wet dream, he's trying to commandeer the term conspiracy theorist when cultural context demonstrates that His views are precisely the norm among conspiracy theorists.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #90
                                the thing about 9/11 is that AQ have taken credit for it, they even called out iran for saying that it was a western conspiracy. so what i want to know is why would this group take credit for something they haven't done which has brought hell upon them?

                                the usual answers are that AQ is western created and used for the benefit of justification for imperialistic adventures in muslim lands. now if this were true then why would the taliban and other groups align themselves with this group and even forsake their country in defense of these people, unless they were the dumbest marks on the planet?

                                or that AQ didn't take part in 9/11 which has been disproved by ayman zawahiri himself.
                                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                                Sayyid Qutb

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