Usa-Americas War Against The Pashtuns

[khushal]

from all that i have read, the war in afghanistan, is for strategic positioning, control in that area, in case pakistan totally flips, and iran actually does have nuclear arsenal etc. also because al qaeda was there, who is said to have organised 9/11, had training camps for jihad against the west, and supposedly, organised the bombing of american embassies (i think it was), in africa.
taliban could have been a bunch of pygmies for all america cares. i do not think it is a war against pashtuns, other than that the taliban are mostly pashtuns.
cheney, rumsfeld, bush and the neo cons 'plan for the new american century' (p.n.a.c.), partly by having bases in strategic areas, involves control over the whole planet. afghanistan is just another pawn in their project.

you cant use the al quada was there excuse anymore, they found the leader in pakistan. thats played out.

[faye]

not my excuse. i am in australia and don't approve of war, but from what i read and heard, your man, osama was in afghanistan, which was ruled by the taliban, when 9/11 happened and he was accused of having plotted the activity. remember?
so, you have proof there are no al qaeda in afghanistan now, khushal? or just using your amazing psychic powers?

[faye]

how is the afghan governmnet developing the country? the reason its a faliure is because they are not.

well if you are unaware of the positive things which have been happening in afghanistan, do some research.
you on opium too?

[faye]

I meant the blabbering part and how is that an ad honinem.

are you saying pisho blabbers? must be that opium you are partaking of.

[R3SISTANC3]

This war is against those that will not yield, or submit....and that happens to be Pashtuns.

The Pashtuns have fought this war against the Greeks, Arabs, Turks, Persians, Mongols, Mughuls, British, Russians, and now Americans. Give or take, in the process of all these wars Pashtuns have been influenced, morphed, evolved, adaptive, at the same time absorbed the invaders...but to a large extent have remained independent without the dictation of others.

Anyways, ***k RT and the Russians. Who can forget these dogs? We have no true friends but ourselves. Though the world is changing and we have to bend if we dont wish to be broken. We don't have the resources to be completely independent and sovereign. It's just the way it is.

[faye]

but it is not ALL pashtuns. stating the war is against pashtuns infers that it is against all pashtuns.
many of the pashtuns on this forum, don't even support the taliban.

[abassinafghan]

This war is not against pashtuns , but again all people who dont want to live under a coorupt installed regime who suprress them , because of ethnic hatred , economical gain and advantage .

because this is the igniter why the people fight .

and thats what is not mentioned . they talk about war against terror , without mention the terror of their own and their puppets .

. Though the world is changing and we have to bend if we dont wish to be broken. We don't have the resources to be completely independent and sovereign. It's just the way it is.

politics is a game of cards , you can play it or you cant .

karzai as the one eyed mullah can not play it . thats why they have to bent .
but to bent in any position and to say thats it is better , than to be crushed is an illusion .
now our people pays the bill for this illusion .

if the taliban take up power , they will stay along time in charge .

the difference between them and current thiefs , will be they will establish rule of law .no stealing , no open day rape , no house raids .

because they will be in one aspect better as their adversaries and people will emphasize it as an ease to live under their rule .

BUT the underlying problems in our country , the political landscape , the relation to our neighbours , the start of the plunder of our natural ressources , the ethnic differences and created hatred by outsiders .

i dont see those problems solved by talibans but actually some of them will get even worser .

For us there is no way of the middle
Our history our country is a manifest of extremes , it either them or us .
because they will not let us breath .
this wars are going for centuries , and the only solution would be to defend all of the them and hit them so bad , so they dont come after us .

but our society broken up, our state destroyed , or youth is ignorant and uneducated ,and our so called leaders are puppets who follow interessts of other people , not those of their people and not even their own .

this country can only be saved by another kushal baba, mir wais neeka or ahmad shah baba .

but i can not see a man ,with their qualities ....

[khushal]

^^the pashtuns are marginalized so it is a war agaisnt pashtuns and the war is on both sides of the durand. Why did they invade pashtuns when Osama was allegedly in afghanistan but did not invade pakistan when in fact he was in pakistan?

they can try to land anywhere they want, the difference between nations is the response an initial invasion would have. for example, landing and occupying afghanistan is far easier than trying the same thing in iran today.

hahaha, where did you get this from, history? how could occupying afghanistan be easy when it was americas and the soviet unions longest war. It was the British Empires worst foreign disaster. Alexander had a tenfold harder time in Afghanistan than he did in the whole persian empire.

[R3SISTANC3]

this wars are going for centuries , and the only solution would be to defend all of the them and hit them so bad , so they dont come after us .

Hit them with what? Throw our babies at them...rocks...?

[R3SISTANC3]

hahaha, where did you get this from, history? how could occupying afghanistan be easy when it was americas and the soviet unions longest war. It was the British Empires worst foreign disaster. Alexander had a tenfold harder time in Afghanistan than he did in the whole persian empire.

I think he meant invading and not occupying.

[faye]

wouldn't they have all the pashtuns in america in some kind of detention camp, if the war is specifically against pashtuns?
i mean look at characters like unknownprince/lynx. the guy is supposedly working in the medical profession in america, is a traitor to the u.s. but is still active.
do they have internet access for inmates of guantanamo?

[Breshna]

Pashtuns are being kept back...on Purpose.

There's are so many Projects...back

home being given to Non-Pashtun...firms only.

Scholarships are being given to...Non-Pashtuns.

War is heavy in Pashtun areas...only.

The most war victims...are Pashtuns.

The most destroyed...areas are

Pashtun populated...areas.