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    Taliban prisoner: 'They will not surrender' - YouTube

    President Obama has declared that the war in Afghanistan must be won, and after the 30,000 troop surge implemented by the president, he has outlined two objectives: to deny a safe haven for al-Qaeda and reverse the Taliban's momentum and prevent them from overthrowing the government.According to Obama, the only real way to achieve this mission is with Pakistan's help, but whose side are they on? Jere Van Dyk, author of the book Captive,joins us with his take on the Taliban after he was held prisoner by the group,and explains Pakistan could be playing both sides of the war on terror.

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    could be?

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    • #3
      The war was always against...Pashtuns.

      We knew this...from day one.

      What a shame...the ones they are helping

      the Non-Pashtuns...are robbing the U.S.A blind.
      I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
      I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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      • #4
        the war is against weakness, as are all wars waged by major and super powers. the afghans are to blame for not being strong enough to fight this fire with fire.
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #5
          Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
          the war is against weakness, as are all wars waged by major and super powers. the afghans are to blame for not being strong enough to fight this fire with fire.
          If that was the case than they would have won a long time ago. It is war against the pashtuns because they are not submitting. IF the pashtuns submit, the war would be over in a second.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            If that was the case than they would have won a long time ago. It is war against the pashtuns because they are not submitting. IF the pashtuns submit, the war would be over in a second.
            weakness is even allowing the means for foreign aggressors to land on the soil. it has nothing to do with submission.
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • #7
              america can land anywhere they want, who is not weak compare to the
              US?

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              • #8
                actually no one is weak... and this really has nothing to do with strength... its all tactics..
                guys usa got afghans soo brainwashed we ourselves dont know what to do

                the only reason we won from russians was because we were on the same page... all afghans wanted one thing for them to be out and it happened...

                now USA in the other hands has bribed its way to ppls hearts...

                the crazies most dumbest thing i have ever heard was an ana saying if they had to choose who to fight along with usa or russia meaning which country to help in a fight...

                he said che da muzh ta farz day che da amrica sara jang oko pa de che russia was an atheist country and folks in usa believe in God...

                total bull****

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                • #9
                  what are you talking about. the afghans were not on the same page against the russians. the afghan communist governmnet was much more effective then the current american created government. The communist governmnet only collapsed after the fall of the soviet union. the current government will collapse the hour after the american soldiers leave.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    america can land anywhere they want, who is not weak compare to the
                    US?

                    they can try to land anywhere they want, the difference between nations is the response an initial invasion would have. for example, landing and occupying afghanistan is far easier than trying the same thing in iran today.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      what are you talking about. the afghans were not on the same page against the russians. the afghan communist governmnet was much more effective then the current american created government. The communist governmnet only collapsed after the fall of the soviet union. the current government will collapse the hour after the american soldiers leave.
                      no it will not collapse because no one is going anywhere...
                      who said us gov is leaving afg??? ever?? everywhere where usa has been to they never leave... they make a permanent army base there...

                      cmon man we both know how it was... no one like russians there and the government back then... cuz it was not that easy to steal money... like it is now... even now if u say u like afg when commies were there
                      they are gonna call u a commie...

                      its cool man some things are best unsaid

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        If that was the case than they would have won a long time ago. It is war against the pashtuns because they are not submitting. IF the pashtuns submit, the war would be over in a second.
                        It was and is a war against Pashtuns, starting from that stupid anti-Pashtun book written by Khaled Hosseni....meant to demonize Pashtuns.

                        Its been demonization from every corner, and they still lost.

                        All the pro-War people do now is blame the napakis (who give NATO/Karzai regime supplies)... for failure.

                        Here is the Karzai regime- the class act...

                        "Karzai Aide Blames Pakistan for Green-on-Blue Attack Surge"

                        Karzai Aide Blames Pakistan for Green-on-Blue Attack Surge | Karzai, Pakistan PM had promised to improve ties
                        Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 08-24-2012, 01:26 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pisho View Post
                          no it will not collapse because no one is going anywhere...
                          who said us gov is leaving afg??? ever?? everywhere where usa has been to they never leave... they make a permanent army base there...

                          cmon man we both know how it was... no one like russians there and the government back then... cuz it was not that easy to steal money... like it is now... even now if u say u like afg when commies were there
                          they are gonna call u a commie...

                          its cool man some things are best unsaid
                          your committing a red herring fallacy. learn how to debate.

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                          • #14
                            ^lol

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              your committing a red herring fallacy. learn how to debate.
                              dude im not here to win,,,
                              and im not arguing with u nor debating..
                              its the type of thing that most people dont want to talk about
                              its the same topic... but its best unsaid because ppl are very sensitive...
                              here maybe it will make u feel better

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