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  • #16
    i like chechen people they are very nice and pak people , i have deepest respect for them .

    but in this conflict there are alot of hands .


    all of this groups can freely move inside germany or austria and in general in the west , with the full support and knowledge of authorities and intelligence .

    they are used and let theirself use as a tool for western interessts against the russian .

    and they did also really stupid things and killed also innocent people .
    their society is splitted and they have to fight other people wars .

    its very sad .

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    • #17
      May Allah grant the highest place in Jannah to Khattab (rah)...he was a hero,is a hero will be ever a hero.





      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #18
        The beginning of the Chechen independence was however pure in its thoughts, it is with the time that all got wrong. And Yes Chechens do not deserve non of these monsters like Basayev and Qadyrov - both known for murders they do.
        This person was at least a real man, standing to his word until the end:

        Масхадов. Вторая горбольница. Грозный - YouTube
        Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
        Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

        Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
        Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

        Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
        Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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        • #19
          I would like also an other interesting question, because I see often very one sided view of conflicts in the Cauvasus as long as it fits someones singular view.
          Now people like You Afghanistan2010, do your stand for the pain of Your Muslim brothers?
          So I may ask what abou Lezgins and related people?
          Why do You never talk about them?
          Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
          Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

          Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
          Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

          Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #20
            The Insurgency is legitimately representing the chechen people as even for todays as you can see form my three shares (people and power),and to the happiness of the people of chechenya it has spilled over to the neighbouring countries...like daghestan and ingushetia .

            The Russian have installed criminals to oppresse the people by their own,with paid militias,as Ramazan Kadyrov is a terrorists fighting his forces is a morale must on a person who loves peace and freedom,until they restrain from their crimes done to the people of chechnya.

            Even when 1000000000 years pass,it is a promise of the believers Russia will not win this war,the insurgency and war on Russia will continue because they are terroizing people.
            And chechnya and its people will be always in our prayers,that may Allah grant them success and freedom,independency.

            The Lezgins,i douched in my own tears in aloneness while thinking about these issues,not only they but the people of Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan are being oppressed by their criminal rulers who are mostly pro-Russia.
            Last edited by Afghanistan2010; 08-24-2012, 11:45 AM. Reason: Addition,reply to question
            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
              1.Chechens especially those who are resisting, are not extremists who destroy their own people,society that is what Russia protray of the chechens,they make it look that they are protecting chechens from their ownselves being killed by their own people.

              2.They have installed a government that is not welcomed by its people as it was done in Iraq,Afghanistan,South Vietnam and else by the Americans and others.Like the British slave-government of India.

              3.They the Russian have been arming since the uprising a militia which is also ruling the areas of Daghestan by the weapon and have such done to be shielded from larger attacks of the resistancy inside Russia or on Russian troops.

              4.Russians have no interest themselves in peace in these region they want to rule them and get their ressources,they have been killing people for decades because any international intereference would lead to further escalation of this.

              5.Saudi-Arabia might be donating for the insurgency,but this is another issue.
              1.What Russia is portraying does have no connection with what I say, I am not so stupid to believe in the tales about Chechens that are said buy some stupid people an the same about Russians, because we were all three living close in one place, and I believe people when I see their honesty in life, and not the irst story they tell on tv, youtube. And people to meet were right enough, from every point of view.
              2. Yes exactly, I completely agree with You, but the people You admire wren't neither welcomed.
              3.Daghestan is a completely other question. Daghestanis , if You like them have a big problem. As they are discriminated , and they were shut in the back, by the people who send them to fight against Armenia.
              4. Wrong, Russians have interest in peace in this region, because they see it as their region, but they do not know how to make it, bacuse there is no understanding of the caucasus by Russian rule, because they did too many bad to the people without really regteing it, bacause they never see the Chechen culture as something worth and feel superior.
              But the fanatics you like did exactly the same, only in favour of an other idea.
              5.Saudi Arabia is not the only one, we have there Turkey, and You supposedly know how Bozkurts see Chechnya?


              Hear one nice song please:

              Сагърай Лезгияр! Азерам - на базар! - YouTube
              Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
              Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

              Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
              Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

              Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
              Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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              • #22
                Good (about Turkey),if i could i would help the people in the region with so much money and man power as possible to fight for their rights if they want so...

                I support any stance any government who really cares for the chechen people and its rights and independency.
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                  The Insurgency is legitimately representing the chechen people as even for todays as you can see form my three shares (people and power),and to the happiness of the people of chechenya it has spilled over to the neighbouring countries...like daghestan and ingushetia .

                  The Russian have installed criminals to oppresse the people by their own,with paid militias,as Ramazan Kadyrov is a terrorists fighting his forces is a morale must on a person who loves peace and freedom,until they restrain from their crimes done to the people of chechnya.

                  Even when 1000000000 years pass,it is a promise of the believers Russia will not win this war,the insurgency and war on Russia will continue because they are terroizing people.
                  And chechnya and its people will be always in our prayers,that may Allah grant them success and freedom,independency.

                  The Lezgins,i douched in my own tears in aloneness while thinking about these issues,not only they but the people of Uzbekistan,Kyrgyzstan are being oppressed by their criminal rulers who are mostly pro-Russia.


                  I agree with You completely what is concerning Qadyrov, in if You would know Russian I would even post You some of the videos where he speaks himself, so You could better Immagine what person he is.
                  Other I better won'T even say.
                  Concerning the rest, Be carefull, I understand a person cares for others, but the world does not go in one direction only - and Russia is not the only problem of Chechen people, and if You like it or not - please if You have the possibility, go to Chechnya and visit thse people who lived there during all the bad periods of recent history.
                  What is concernng Lezgins, they have no Russian terrorizing them, they were terrorized and are terrorized by Azerbaijan.
                  The Azeri were very clever to make war on us, send the Lezgis of Azerbaijan to fight against us and to shoot them down in the back. They were very clever in occupying almost whole South Lezgistan, and when they talk to You they will tell You Islam is one and we are all Muslims and nationalism is unislamic, but Lezgins and Talysh and Avar are not stupid sheep to let them kill under nice words that Azeris themselves do not believe in.
                  Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                  Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                  Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                  Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                  Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                  Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    it has been confirmed that the guy was a saudi after his death. his brother confirmed it in an interview.
                    Can You post this interview perhaps dear Khushal, I found till now only texed that mention the interview, but i cannot find the interview directly!
                    Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                    Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                    Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                    Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                    Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                    Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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