TTP execute 22 Shias in Pakistan bus attack

[RevolutionThroughReason]

no fallacy and no sidetracking, I was responding to Randolph who beleives that there are no attacks by shias against sunnis.

In the big picture, the rivalry is used by big powers for their own interests(Taliban, Afghan governmnet, Pakistan governmnet, Iran, India, and NAto).

When you mention something totally irrelevant to murdering people on sectarian grounds

then you're side tracking ....there's no other way of explaining it

[RevolutionThroughReason]

FYI since you beleive that it is Taliban policy to target Shias, Kurrum was peacefull during Taliban rule of Afghansitan.

Kurrum is not apart of Afghanistan ......they were too busy killing Shi'a Hazaras the hatred for an ethnic group and Shi'a combo was much more incentive. The hatred was alive an well long before occupation,


The occupation has been used as an excuse by the Taliban for their crimes; but the crimes always existed.

[Afghanistan2010]

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Both Sunni and Shia civilians are in danger because of the US occupation. This age old rivalry erupted right after the US occupation. It also erupted right after the Soviet invasion.

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You're trying to SWAY focus ...BIG time ......Sunnis are now in danger because of the possibility of Shi'a retaliation for TTP actions.

that has NOTHING to do with U.S. occupation

I think you want that the sunnis should slaughter them all off ...and secterian violence erupts...which will lead to a war between the future Afghanistan and Iran in which the killings continue.

You always want that people kill eachother and does not stop killing eachother ...especially the killing between the Ahlus Sunnah and the rawafidh shia.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I think you want that the sunnis should slaughter them all off ...and secterian violence erupts...which will lead to a war between the future Afghanistan and Iran in which the killings continue.

You always want that people kill eachother and does not stop killing eachother ...especially the killing between the Ahlus Sunnah and the rawafidh shia.

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aren't you the one who always cheers when Shi'a die? Don't accuse others of your own sickness, stop being a coward. All the posts you thank are always whatever you can use for an excuse; You always try tio use U.S. Occupation as an excuse but we all know the Taliban history and what they did between 1994-2001, when no occupation was there.

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[khushal]

Kurrum is not apart of Afghanistan ......they were too busy killing Shi'a Hazaras the hatred for an ethnic group and Shi'a combo was much more incentive. The hatred was alive an well long before occupation,


The occupation has been used as an excuse by the Taliban for their crimes; but the crimes always existed.

You are sidetracking and bringing different issues into the subject.
Hazaras are a different issue. In those cases, first blood was spilled by the hazaras.

[khushal]

You're trying to SWAY focus ...BIG time ......Sunnis are now in danger because of the possibility of Shi'a retaliation for TTP actions.

that has NOTHING to do with U.S. occupation

you dont understand these things. I was ansering Randolphs question.

Answer this question: Since this action was done to start the conflict again, who benifits if the TTP and Turi go back to war again and who benifits if there is peace.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You are sidetracking and bringing different issues into the subject.
Hazaras are a different issue. In those cases, first blood was spilled by the hazaras.

No YOU mentioned the Taliban times; so I mentioned something that happened DURING the Taliban times AT THE HANDS of the Taliban; i.e. the murder of Shi'a Hazaras. Sorry man you can't have it both ways MENTIOn something from the situation you speak of and then try to discredit someone for mentioning something DIRECTLY corresponding to the situation you speak of. Yeah Obviously "first blood" was spilled by the Hazaras, THEY WERE BEING ATTACKED by Taliban and rightfully resisted, isn't that what you're always beating your chest about? The right of resistance? The Hazaras were exercising that right


nice try though

the Occupation is being used as an excuse to exonerate Taliban crimes.

[khushal]

No YOU mentioned the Taliban times; so I mentioned something that happened DURING the Taliban times AT THE HANDS of the Taliban; i.e. the murder of Shi'a Hazaras. Sorry man you can't have it both ways MENTIOn something from the situation you speak of and then try to discredit someone for mentioning something DIRECTLY corresponding to the situation you speak of. Yeah Obviously "first blood" was spilled by the Hazaras, THEY WERE BEING ATTACKED by Taliban and rightfully resisted, isn't that what you're always beating your chest about? The right of resistance? The Hazaras were exercising that right


nice try though

the Occupation is being used as an excuse to exonerate Taliban crimes.

We were talking about the shia sunni clashes on the paksitani side though. you went to a different place. They were attacked by their own counrtymen who claimed themselves of being government forces. But if you want to get technical, the hazaras were left behind by foreign forces in hostile territory.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

We were talking about the shia sunni clashes on the paksitani side though. you went to a different place. They were attacked by their own counrtymen who claimed themselves of being government forces. But if you want to get technical, the hazaras were left behind by foreign forces in hostile territory.

But you were mentioning the Taliban IN AFghanistan I'll even quote you again

Originally Posted by khushal

FYI since you beleive that it is Taliban policy to target Shias, Kurrum was peacefull during Taliban rule of Afghansitan.

Don't back peddle and change goal posts now. The Taliban of Afghanistan were focused on killing Shi'a elsewhere, who were NOT Pashtun on top of that, so they had less motive to act out their bigotry there.

[khushal]

But you were mentioning the Taliban IN AFghanistan I'll even quote you again

Don't back peddle and change goal posts now. The Taliban of Afghanistan were focused on killing Shi'a elsewhere, who were NOT Pashtun on top of that, so they had less motive to act out their bigotry there.

Im not back peddling. Kurrum was still peacefull during their rule. Dont change the subject.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

But their rule didn't include Kurram Agency; so you mentioning that point was actually the subject change.

check mate

[khushal]

They had alot of influence in kurrum and the rest of FATA. Many of their fighters came from FATA. Taliban elements have been in that region since the 90's

we are talking about a location and the people in that location. you are the one that mentioned the hazaras in afghanistan.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

and they had a lot of influence in Afghanistan, obviously since they were overrunning the place and tbey murdered Shi'a Hazaras left and right. And it's clear as to why since they were Shi'a AND Hazara, more motive. Thus since you're talking about the Taliban rule; that becomes wholly relevant. Hazaras rightfully resisted. Their rule didn't extend in Kurram, thus your point was a subject cnange
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wow you say you're NOT changing goal posts? lol

[Toramana]

World needs a break from all kinds of racists and religious, sectarian, sub-sectarian fanatics.

More, emkhan has got a thoroughly sectarian and communal mindset. 98% of his posts here are Islamist, sectarian propaganda. Who can justify the killing of innocent people no matter which sect do they belong to? Why should be sahaba above criticism? After all they were human beings prone to weaknesses.