Balochi women parded naked by Punjabis in Ramadhan

[JattApache]

R3SISTANC3,

You are the only one in the entire Internet that has specified the women in the video to be "Baloch". These women in the video are not Baloch. They are Sindee-Punjabi women living in those areas. I searched the entire internet typing the keywords but yours was the only one down in the aile calling the women in the video to be "Baloch".

And as for the incident. This is just awful. Shame to those men.

It's because he wants to troll and put some drama against punjabis.
What a fool.

[Blue Flower]

It is a real shame to hear about this May Allah give them guidance, both parties are seraiki speaking and natives of the area and were involve in political and property disputes , recently a new love making incident took them to such extreme. Agressor on one hand made a brutal crime and now every one is talking about his sister on the streets ,and those silly womens did not used there brains that having so much enimity before how would they have reacted on a new relationship which was illegal , however the male lover is responsible for making their womens to face that act at the first place , both have political connections the agressor is from (pml n ) and mazloom party is with (ppp), both of them have no feudal background they are just ordinary villagers

[Toramana]

It's because he wants to troll and put some drama against punjabis.
What a fool.

I think where it happened is home to many Baloch now speaking Siraik as is common in southern Punjab. Even in DI Khan in Khyber Pukhtunkhwa, many Siraiki speaking claim to be Baloch. Although, I agree that they can no longer be called Balochis. It is the same as Niazis.

I think the retention of Baloch affiliation in such areas is due to social stratification.

Here is the link about the Baloch origin of the victims.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/419189/women-paraded-naked-after-asking-for-girls-hand-in-marriage/

Jamila said that the men told her that they will teach her a lesson about honour and the importance of the Arayin tribe in the area. “He said, you are a Baloch and will remain a Baloch and you do not deserve any honour and respect,” she added.

[IamDZJ]

So what should have they done instead of approaching them with respectfully with the marriage proposal?? Abducted their sister?? Some people simply don't deserve any respect. And you don't have to clearify the fact that these victims do not belong to your tribe. It's an embarrassment for all of us since this is the type of behavioir that our Muslims treat each other with while claiming their right to spreading Islam amongst the "non believers".

[R3SISTANC3]

M17ArnoBaloch, Bharati,

Do both of you know how to read? Here let me help you:

Jamila said that the men told her that they will teach her a lesson about honour and the importance of the Arayin tribe in the area. “He said, you are a Baloch and will remain a Baloch and you do not deserve any honour and respect,” she added.

That's in the article, I didn't write the article. Go back, and actually read it before commenting.

And here to settle your other worry:

The Baloch are found mainly in the districts of Multan, Lodhran Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan districts in sothern Punjab and Jhang, Sargodha, Khushab and Sahiwal districts of central Punjab.

The following clans are those most commonly found of the Punjab : —
Ahmadani, Chandio Korai, Jatoi,Gopang, Mashori, Rind, Khushk, Gurmani, Dashti, Jatoi, Gishkauri, Mazari, Hot, Pitafi and Zangeza, Jalbani, Gurchani.
The Rind, Jatoi and Korai are numerous in Multan, Jhang, Sahiwal, Sargodha and Muzaffargarh districts. While the Gopangs and Dashtis, both are found in the Muzaffargarh district. The Hot are found in Jhang, Multan and Muzaffargarh, and the Gurmanis, Khushik, Giskhauris, Pitafis in Muzaffargarh and Rahimyar Khan. While the Mazaris in Jhang,Jaccobabad,Rajanpur,Kashmore and Rahimyar khan. The Magassi Baloch, who are found in Multan, Muzaffargarh, Mianwali and Jhang, appear to be a "peculiar people" rather than a tribe.Jalbani tribe is concentrated in D.G.Khan and Rajanpur districts in the Punjab. Both Sunnis and Shias are found among them and they have several peculiar customs not to be found among other Balochis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baloch_of_Punjab

[khushal]

Whats wrong with panjabis, they dont know what honor is.

[R3SISTANC3]

Exercise 101


This exercise will help some of our Pakistani friends (even those who claim to be "Bharatis") digest the fact that their fellow Pakistanis can sink this low even in the holy month of Ramadhan.


1. Where did this incident happen?

MULTAN: A woman and her sister were paraded naked in the Khangarh subdistrict of Muzaffargarh on Wednesday after she asked for a girl’s hand in marriage for her son.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/419189/women-paraded-naked-after-asking-for-girls-hand-in-marriage/

Tribune.com.pk is a Pakistani site and not affiliated with PF or R3SISTANC3 (Although this is a claim that can't be validated, so who knows eh?)


2. Are there Balochis in Multan Muzaffargarh?

The Baloch are found mainly in the districts of Multan, Lodhran Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan districts in sothern Punjab and Jhang, Sargodha, Khushab and Sahiwal districts of central Punjab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baloch_of_Punjab

3. Why did this happen?

Jamila said that the men told her that they will teach her a lesson about honour and the importance of the Arayin tribe in the area. “He said, you are a Baloch and will remain a Baloch and you do not deserve any honour and respect,” she added.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/419189/women-paraded-naked-after-asking-for-girls-hand-in-marriage/

4. Are there Punjabis in Multan, Muzaffargarh?

Yes, here are major Jat (also known as Aryan) Punjabi clans of Multan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat_clans_of_Multan_Division

[R3SISTANC3]

Whats wrong with panjabis, they dont know what honor is.

This parading people naked is a common thing in that region. In fact the close by Pashtun regions also adopted such practice where a few incidents occurred like these.

[abassinafghan]

what do you expect , jatan di .

where i am from jat is an offensive word to use or call somebody .

now i understand why ...

[JattApache]

So why is she speaking a perfect punjabi and not baloch ?
She may have baloch ancestry, but she is considered punjabi, As toramana said, it's same for niazi tribe

[JattApache]

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Whats wrong with panjabis, they dont know what honor is.

. what do you expect , jatan di .

where i am from jat is an offensive word to use or call somebody .

now i understand why ...

OHH Dhuaddi..

[R3SISTANC3]

So why is she speaking a perfect punjabi and not baloch ?
She may have baloch ancestry, but she is considered punjabi, As toramana said, it's same for niazi tribe

Don't really have time to answer your uneducated queries, but the fact that bunch of Jats paraded them naked because she was a Baloch, and dared to request a Jat girl hand in marriage, nullifies your silly claim face blackened.

Again, as for your uneducated suggestion that since she speaks fluent Punjabi she must be a Punjabi (as if taking shalwar off a Punjabi woman is somehow less bad), that to is absurd since migrants of communities have to speak local languages if they been in the region long enough. Plus that is a pathetic argument to start with.

Sure you are a Bharati? Because the logic applied here is very typical of Pakistanis.

[JattApache]

Don't really have time to answer your uneducated queries, but the fact that bunch of Jats paraded them naked because she was a Baloch, and dared to request a Jat girl hand in marriage, nullifies your silly claim face blackened.

Again, as for your uneducated suggestion that since she speaks fluent Punjabi she must be a Punjabi (as if taking shalwar off a Punjabi woman is somehow less bad), that to is absurd since migrants of communities have to speak local languages if they been in the region long enough. Plus that is a pathetic argument to start with.

Sure you are a Bharati? Because the logic applied here is very typical of Pakistanis.

Zardari has baloch ancestry but he claims and he is considered to be a sindhi.
Same goes for hindkowans , mirpuris or baloch/ siraikis in south punjab, they adopted the culture, language and habits.
Off course, it's really terrible what happened to her, only cowards can do such things, i'm not supporting such things, as you wanted to say
And I don't know if she is 100% baloch but she seems to be like I said.
Your title is obvious, you want to create a drama on ethnicities
It wasn't necessary to say their ethnicity, there are fools everywhere

[R3SISTANC3]

Zardari has baloch ancestry but he claims and he is considered to be a sindhi.
Same goes for hindkowans , mirpuris or baloch/ siraikis in south punjab, they adopted the culture, language and habits.
Off course, it's really terrible what happened to her, only cowards can do such things, i'm not supporting such things, as you wanted to say
And I don't know if she is 100% baloch but she seems to be like I said.
Your title is obvious, you want to create a drama on ethnicities
It wasn't necessary to say their ethnicity, there are fools everywhere

Your apologetic argument is typical Pakistani face saving. Thus proves that you are a Pakistani troll masquerading as a Bharati/Indian. No intelligent Indian would fail to see that the title of this thread is relevant to the incident. Punjabis paraded two women because they were (true or not, doesn't matter) Baloch. Punjabis felt that two women, who happen to be Baloch, insulted their superior status by asking for the hand of a Punjabi girl. That is a fact and remains so.

What you are asking me is that I should have concealed the fact, the purpose and reason behind the deed, rather than exposing the hate and prejudicial incident this is.

It was a HATE CRIME:

In crime and law, hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, sex, or gender identity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

Ergo it was VERY NECESSARY to mention their ETHNICITY, since it played a huge factor as to why some men decided to parade two elderly Muslim women naked in the month of Ramadhan. What you need to do is contact your local Pakistani MPA, MNA, and have them delegate to Pakistani news paper that reported the incident that they should have left out the "sensitive" part which you have a hard time digesting.

Lastly, which ever educational system you crawled out of, tell them they need to do a better job.

[Admin Khan]

Why are we acting as if this was not a hate crime? It's a known fact that Punjabis and Sindhis look down upon both the Baluch and Pashtuns. I, myself, have heard Punjabis refer to Pashtuns as 'Walnuts' and other casual derogatory terms, as soon as their 'machoness' was questioned. Let's not even talk about the fact that EVERY single 'funny' SMS has to do with a Pashtun being a clown as usual, those who are familiar with ground realities know what I mean. If it's a funny 'text' it involves a 'Pashtun' doing something insanely stupid, which affirms their false beliefs of us being backwards and mentally unstable.

While it's unfair to generalize all Punjabis(good and bad exist in all)let's not act as if such people exist, or as if everything is lovey-dovey and this is a conspiracy theory. Pashtuns and Baluch are viewed in Pakistan as illiterate, naive, not to mention as chowkidars.

This comment sums it all up:

“He said, you are a Baloch and will remain a Baloch and you do not deserve any honour and respect,”

Anybody who has visited Karachi, the largest city, can agree with what I wrote.

I can't count how many times I've heard "Arhai yaar, Pathan hain, chorh do". As if Pukhtuns are some degenerate people.


I mean, to back up what I said, Pakistanis have hundreds of sites devoted to 'Pashtun jokes'.

http://www.sms2friends.com/pathan-sms/