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  • Further Kuchi-Hazara Violence in Wardag. Fears of ethnic strife resurfacing.

    Afghan ethnic violence shows signs of resurgence


    Afghan Hazara tribesmen (R) and children near the remains of razed property, destroyed
    during a recent attack by nomadic Kuchis, in Kajab valley of Behsud district, Wardak
    province. – Photo by AFP

    KAJAB: Bloody raids by nomads armed with machine guns and rocket
    launchers on villages near Kabul are raising fears about a return to
    ethnic conflict in Afghanistan 18 months before Nato combat troops
    leave.

    For more than a century, ethnic Pashtuns known as Kuchis have wintered
    in the south and east where the weather is better, and migrated in the
    summer to let their herds graze in the cooler north.

    But a land dispute between the Kuchis and the settled ethnic Hazaras
    dating back 130 years has since 2005 disintegrated into seasonal violence
    in the Kajab valley west of the capital.

    With Nato forces due to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014, there are
    fears that the country could slide back to the chaos seen in the 1990s,
    when ethnically aligned factions fought a bloody civil war.

    From the early 1990s to 2001 fighting between the Pashtun-dominated
    Taliban and Hazaras led to tens of thousands of deaths, particularly on the
    Hazara side.

    “Afghans have suffered a lot in internal and mainly ethnic wars in the past,
    and this problem, if left unsolved could hurt the volatile national unity
    among Afghans even further,” said author and analyst Waheed Mujda.

    In early June, up to 2,000 Kuchi nomads swept into Kajab, according to
    residents and local officials, ransacking several villages and burning
    hundreds of buildings.

    Most of the valley’s population of ethnic Hazaras, who are also part of the
    Shia minority, fled.

    According to villagers, the Kuchis killed four Hazaras and seven soldiers.

    Two months on from the raid, Kajab looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland
    dotted with gutted, fire-blackened mud buildings.

    “In each burnt home, there was a Koran. When the Americans set fire to
    them in the spring, the whole world cried out,” said village elder Ewaz, 55.

    “But here, no one’s said anything. Who are we? What have we done? We’re
    also Muslims, aren’t we?” The madrassa in Dahane Gandob village was
    almost totally destroyed, apparently by rocket fire.

    The walls of the seminary’s mosque are pockmarked with small-calibre bullet
    holes. A prayer room was saved, though the carpets were stolen.

    The village’s two medical clinics were badly damaged – the older one was
    completely destroyed and the other, which was not yet in service, is now
    unusable.

    Local authorities and villagers say there were Taliban among the Kuchi
    raiders, suggesting that the Pashtun-dominated insurgent group could be
    using the Kuchis to win land away from the government and its Nato allies.

    Kajab is in Behsoud district of Wardak, a province dominated by Pashtuns
    where the local government denies what is widely assumed to be a strong
    Taliban presence.

    In neighbouring Uruzgan province last week, a Hazara local police
    commander reportedly rounded up and killed nine Pashtun civilians in
    revenge for the death of two local Hazaras. Authorities say the case is still
    under investigation.

    Behsoud lawmaker Ghulan Hussein Nasseri accused the government of
    President Hamid Karzai, himself a Pashtun, of discriminating against Hazaras
    and said they would defend themselves if they were not given protection.

    “The attacks of the nomads were under the support of the government,”
    Nasseri said.

    He said he warned the national and provincial authorities the day before
    the attack and on the day itself, but claimed the army only arrived in Kajab
    five hours after the Kuchis left.

    Shahidullah Shahid, spokesman for the Wardak governor, blamed a lack of
    resources.

    “We don’t have enough security forces in the area, although we have
    asked the central government to send us more, and even make a special
    force to control the Kuchis and Hazara brothers’ conflict,” he said.

    The clashes stemmed from a “legal issue” which was beyond the remit of
    the provincial authorities and should be solved through judicial channels, he
    added.

    The nomads say they want to reclaim land given to them by a royal decree
    130 years ago, which the settled communities have been living on for
    generations.

    Hazaras make up an estimated 15 to 20 per cent of the population. They
    suffered brutal persecution under the 1996-2001 Taliban rule, but have
    prospered since the 2001 US-led invasion.

    Elay Ershad, a Kuchi lawmaker, accused the Hazaras of initiating the
    violence.

    “Hazaras said they bought that land from the government, which is not
    true.

    Hazaras start to attack Kuchis. They have big fights,” he said.
    A conflict also erupted last year in Laghman province, a Pashtun province
    east of Kabul, he said, arguing that giving the Kuchis their own land was
    the only solution.

    Many Kajab residents left for good after the violence in June, abandoning
    their farms in what is a very green and well-cultivated valley.

    “We voted for a government to protect the people. If they don’t, I see a
    very dark future for this country,” warned Nasseri.



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    To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
    own inclinations and desires
    .


    -Imam al Ghazali

  • #2
    those are just again staged drama of a bigger played drama ....

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    • #3
      You cant solve that issue unless you find a suitable place for the kochis. they are nomads, and eventually all nomads settle down.

      Similar to the durfur conflict in sudan.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Adam
        Is it normal for Nomads to carry rocket launchers?


        No, these poor kuchiyan are being used and manipulated
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        • #5
          The Kuchi-Hazara fighting has always been the bloodiest and most widespread in Wardag than anywhere else in the country.


          However, the 'ethnic violence' fears are unfounded. It is not a battle of Pashtun v Hazara. It is a battle of nomads who happen to be Pashtun fighting settled people who happen to be Hazara. Why? Because if it was an ethnic struggle then you would see Zaragaan fighting all Pashtuns in the area but that is not the case.

          The Wardag Pukhtuns (who make up the vast majority of the province named after them) live for the most part without trouble with the Zaragaan.

          This is despite the fact that hundreds of years ago the Wardags had invaded these Hazara lands and taken them for themselves. Over time the Wardags were slowly encroaching & expanding upon the Hazara territory and now, the districts of Dai Mirdad & Jaghatu (which are names of Hazara tribes) are solidly Wardag Pukhtun. This process of invasion & encroachment stopped a long time ago. The Wardags & the Zaragaan have no living memory of the seizure of land.

          The Zaragaan live in the two Behsud districts in the west of the province. These are remote areas and are seperated from the rest of Wardag by a vast plateau. Hence the Wardag Pukhtuns & the Zaragaan have a natural border and do not have any problems with eachother.


          The Kuchiyaan on the other hand have no land. They are nomads. The Behsud areas are fertile and perfect for the Kuchi cattle to graze in. There are few other comparable areas the kuchiyaan can go to and it is neccessary for them to find such land otherwise their livelihoods would be ruined.

          The Zaragaan had been living on the land for centuries ever since their Mongol ancestors brutally invaded. Towards the end of the 19th century Abdur Rahman Khan was planning to invade Hazarajat (the areas in central Afghanistan of which Behsud is a part of) to consolidate his rule. He enlisted the help of the kuchiyaan and others and in return promised land, gold and other bounties. In the end he was succesful and he is despised by those Zaragaan for it.

          That is where the conflict really began and it is not the last time the Kuchiyaan would have been used against the Hazaras. It was a similar story with the Taliban.

          Central Afghan governments have always wanted to control the prosperous & fertile Hazarajat area. One very famous example is that of the Communists.

          They tried to exploit ethnic & religious differences among the inhabitants of Wardag by trying to make a deal with the Wardags to supply them with weapons so that they could attack the Zaragaan on behalf of the Communists in the name of 'Pashtun solidarity'. The government provided many weapons (so much so that even my grand-uncle who was just a simple farmer got a gun from the deal) but the Wardags had no intention of fighting a peoples with whom they have no quarrel simply to please the oppresive & illegitimate kafir Russian lapdogs in Kabul. So they used those weapons to attack the Soviet central command in the province in Maidan Shahr (a resounding success) and wage their resistance. The communists tried the exact same thing with the Pashtuns in Nuristan and the same result occured there.

          Since the Taliban first came to power in the 90s, conflict between Kuchiyaan & Zaragaan have escalated. It is no coincidence. The Taliban are blatently supporting the Kuchiyaan by providing them with weapons to further their influence in the area. The results of which are countless bloody deaths.

          The Kuchiyaan have always been heavily armed. It is their way. Yet the Taliban further provide them with ammunition and heavy arms that they would not have otherwise possessed.

          It should be noted that not all Kuchiyaan in Wardag are nomads. Thousands are settled.




          You are more likely to see conflict with the Wardag Pukhtuns and the Kuchi Pukhtuns than with the Wardag Pukhtuns and the Behsud Hazaras. So don't believe the 'ethnic violence' nonsense.
          ---
          To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
          own inclinations and desires
          .


          -Imam al Ghazali

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          • #6
            kishmant was a hazara , so were alot of parchami .......

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            • #7
              when you become settled, how can you still be a Kuchi? if that's the case we're all Kuchis
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              • #8
                A kochai isn't someone who just moves about without a home.

                If I sold my house and stared migrating, I wouldn't automatically be a kochai.
                Being a kochai, you follow a particular mindset, wear particular clothes, follow certain practices and so on.
                I know Kochiyaan in Kabul who live in houses and they still call themselves Kochais. Politically, they feel represented by kochai leaders and have strong attachments to their kochai bretheren.

                In Wardag, settled Kochiyaan are still regarded as Kochiyaan because they are different from everyone else.

                15% of Kochiyaan are now settled.
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                To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                own inclinations and desires
                .


                -Imam al Ghazali

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                  kishmant was a hazara , so were alot of parchami .......

                  That incident was close to the beginning of the war as I said it was what helped spur the organised resistance in the province. At that time the government was Pashtun-Khalqi dominated & they were repressing non-Khalqi elements. They used the 'Pashtun solidarity' card just like Abdur Rahman Khan did. Not only has this been recorded in books & you can go to Wardag & ask anyone about it.
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                  To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                  own inclinations and desires
                  .


                  -Imam al Ghazali

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                  • #10
                    Now you're being very ambiguous of the definition of Kuchi. We have a cultural understanding of Kuchiyan as people who are pastoral nomads. I do realize the Kuchi practice of a keshlak and peshlak (keeping summer and winter residences) but this isn't the same as being settled.

                    When you settle you're abandoning the Kuchi lifestyle of Pastoral Nomadism; thus cease to be a Kuchi. My ancestors few hundred years ago were Kuchi but I am not a Kuchi. I do agree that people still misguidedly represent themselves as Kuchiyan and there are definitely cultural differences from the mainstream Keliwal or urban populace. But they're more "fashion" Kuchi than anything. They just like the mystque associated with women and men getting tattoos on their hands and faces. and girls wearing a konsi and all that.
                    Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 08-06-2012, 11:30 AM.
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                    • #11
                      The literal definition of a kochai is one who is a pastoral nomad.


                      In reality however, kochiyaan are a group of people who like I said are very distinguished in terms of the mindset & practices.

                      Pastoral nomadism is one aspect of their lifestyle.
                      They can still be identified with the clothes that they wear, their political leaders, the way that they speak Pakhto etc. Eventually they may blend in with those with whom they settle (and this has happened quiet a bit in Wardag) but they can also remain distinguished from the other Pashtuns around them too.

                      It is upto you if you wish to consider yourself a kochai or not. Some do not when they settle down but many still do.
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                      To advise others is an easy matter, the difficulty is accepting advice -- since it is bitter for those who follow their
                      own inclinations and desires
                      .


                      -Imam al Ghazali

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                      • #12
                        That's what I mean they're fashion Kuchiyan, as you said their clothes are a bit different, they embroider everything. The men wear earrings.

                        I like the Kuchi image from a romantic stand point, and I think ecologically pastoral nomadism is healthier. But claiming they're a specific group is a bit disingenuous of them unless they live that lifestyle
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Haris View Post
                          A kochai isn't someone who just moves about without a home.

                          If I sold my house and stared migrating, I wouldn't automatically be a kochai.
                          Being a kochai, you follow a particular mindset, wear particular clothes, follow certain practices and so on.
                          I know Kochiyaan in Kabul who live in houses and they still call themselves Kochais. Politically, they feel represented by kochai leaders and have strong attachments to their kochai bretheren.

                          In Wardag, settled Kochiyaan are still regarded as Kochiyaan because they are different from everyone else.

                          15% of Kochiyaan are now settled.
                          Many Ghilzai tribes who are settled reffer to themselves as Kuchyan and there is nothing wrong with it.

                          They are either Ahmedzai,Andarr or what ever but i heared them reffering to themselves as kuchyan.
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                          • #14
                            This problem has to be resolved once and for all.

                            The Kuchis have to settle down in the disputed areas.

                            If 80% of all Hazaras from Bamyan, Daikundi and Wardag can come to Kabul to settle, then Kuchis can definitly settle in those areas, too.
                            The only constant is change.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                              This problem has to be resolved once and for all.

                              The Kuchis have to settle down in the disputed areas.

                              If 80% of all Hazaras from Bamyan, Daikundi and Wardag can come to Kabul to settle, then Kuchis can definitly settle in those areas, too.
                              Setling in a city is difrent from setling on a land where other group have been for centuries, you can't compare this two whith eachother.

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