Wisdom of Machiaville ?

[Toramana]

"Machiavelli, says what the people in power do.people say he advocates immorality in politics.But i view him honest in saying what is a fact of life in the realm of powers."

"Unless cunning and cruel,like an ideal mix of fox and lion the princes and rulers of the world would find it difficult to bring order into the looming disorder.And with a rigorous nationalistic fist v can uproot the nasty thugs, feeding on our flesh and blood,like leeches at present"

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I am a big fan of Machiavelli.

[KGODB]

The Prince is essential reading

[کیش]

This book made me .

If you wanna read a conniving "Power" book, read Robert Greene's 48 Laws of Power.

[abassinafghan]

I am a big fan of Machiavelli.

still you fail on your comments in regard to the situation of afghans in the perspective of machiavellism .


mullah omar is in no league to be considerd a statesmen nor is kharzai .

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

still you fail on your comments in regard to the situation of afghans in the perspective of machiavellism .


mullah omar is in no league to be considerd a statesmen nor is kharzai .

I said I like the man, not "I agree with (all) his views".

Kharzai has his strings, Omar will be rewarded for rising against injustice.

[abassinafghan]

, Omar will be rewarded for rising against injustice

who says he is rising against injustice ??? and not for his own interesst or for those who gurantee him his position ?

just because he was establishing some police work ??? there many places in world where there is a police force who establish public order , but that doesnt make the very same
regimes legitimit .

[torkham]

The Prince is essential reading

Thanks.

In my experience 'machiavellian' in my naive assessment, seemed to be used in a sense being sly and duplicitous, even evil.

Having read The Prince, Machiavelli seemed to advocate strategies for political survival for any prince on the cusp of reign rather than anything nefarious.

As KGODB has endorsed, it is essential reading.

[abassinafghan]

machiavellism , is in short lujakgi in politics , to be lujak to survive ...

how ever explained to do it in a smart way