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    More than 200 Islamists are believed to have left Germany to join the jihad in Pakistan. But, after learning what life there is really like, many of them are abandoning the cause and heading home -- right into the unwelcoming arms of the law.

    Istanbul's Kumkapi neighborhood is normally the kind of place where belly dancers can be found gyrating their hips in front of drunk patrons. For Peter B., who is currently locked up in a cell in Kumkapi, it's the place where God is testing him for paradise.

    The Turkish prison for detainees awaiting deportation is a beige, sandstone building. Surveillance cameras monitor the three floors, and guards armed with submachine guns are posted at the entrance. In a room on the ground floor, Peter B. is kneeling on white tiles in front of his 3-year-old son, Uwais. The boy asks his father: "Why did the police arrest you?" Stroking his father's face, he adds: "If you pray a lot, they'll let you out."
    An armed guard monitors the family reunion behind bars. Peter B. places his hand on his son's neck and recites a verse from the Koran. It's meant to protect him from shaitan, the devil. "I left Pakistan so that my children's brains wouldn't be numbed," he says. He was disappointed by his fellow Muslims, whose video messages had lured him to Waziristan, a mountainous part of the Hindu Kush region and a stronghold of the Taliban and al-Qaida.

    They had promised that there would be schools and hospitals there, he says, adding: "You trust your brothers, and you think they don't lie." He raises his left eyebrow and says: "There was nothing there except flying drones."

    A Reversing Trend

    For years, the mountainous region straddling the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan seemed like a mecca of sorts for militants. More than 200 volunteers left Germany, traveling alone or with their families, headed for Waziristan. Those who had gone first then app

    More than 200 Islamists are believed to have left Germany to join the jihad in Pakistan. But, after learning what life there is really like, many of them are abandoning the cause and heading home -- right into the unwelcoming arms of the law.

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    Turkish customs and police are brutal.
    They held my cousin for 2 days at the airport just because his passport had many recent stamps and he fits the "profile".

    Anyway, I wish these German citizens die (the ones who abandoned Jihad).
    Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

    Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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    • #3
      Anyway, I wish these German citizens die (the ones who abandoned Jihad).
      hahaha says our wanna be rapper , who is posing with dollar bills ....

      did you ever thought about that , that what they are doing is not jihad .

      anyways why are you not heading over to fight and die ???

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      • #4
        Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
        hahaha says our wanna be rapper , who is posing with dollar bills ....

        did you ever thought about that , that what they are doing is not jihad .

        Whatever it is, they left it. Spineless cowards.

        anyways why are you not heading over to fight and die ???

        Because I cannot be bothered and I will not die anytime soon.
        Why are you not heading over to fight the Taliban?

        Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

        Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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        • #5
          Why are you not heading over to fight the Taliban?
          because i dont belive in violence against my brothers even they are taliban , because i belive we have to unite and solve our problems due to consence and reason , and not by the muzzle of a gun .

          30 years of killing leded to no where .


          Whatever it is, they left it. Spineless cowards.
          well i guess you will also regard kharzai a spineless coward if he admit , that he was wrong and sold his country .

          and mullah omar must be also a coward if he admitts that isi was pimping him out .....

          boy you are really entertaining ...

          may be this kraut realized that his presence was not changing anything , but was only a scapegoat , to legitimize the german and european involvement in the war against terror .
          to keep the moral high at home ...

          if he was so concernd about muslims , he should start to fight agains the islamophobia in europe by reason and logic , and show the people the truth behind this new kind of fascism educate the people and raise his voice against those propaganda .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
            boy you are really entertaining ...
            Yes I am. That is what I provide.
            Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

            Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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            • #7
              then dont wonder people can not take you serious shadibaza .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                then dont wonder people can not take you serious shadibaza .
                Abassin is in Pakistan, I'll leave you with that.
                Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                • #9
                  PASHTUNISTAN IS NOT PAKISTAN , son i know you have some inferrior complexes but you are still my brother , even you have never been in afg , and dont know the reality in your home country , and you are born in londonistan .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                    PASHTUNISTAN IS NOT PAKISTAN , son i know you have some inferrior complexes but you are still my brother , even you have never been in afg , and dont know the reality in your home country , and you are born in londonistan .
                    Well on paper it is. Pakistan is the green passport land. Pashtunistan does not exist.

                    I have no inferiority complex, I am above all other life.

                    And I was not born in London, I was born in Nottingham.
                    Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                    Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                    • #11
                      Well on paper it is. Pakistan is the green passport land. Pashtunistan does not exist.
                      hahahah you dont question the existence of palestine , but the existence of pashtunistan ???

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                        hahahah you dont question the existence of palestine , but the existence of pashtunistan ???
                        I believe in Israel.
                        Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                        Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                        • #13
                          that explains alot , shalom to you de jahud bacheya

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                            that explains alot , shalom to you de jahud bacheya
                            Mung tol da Yadud bachyan yu. Mung Bani Israel yu.
                            Dark Vader Ghost King El Malo Camello Papa

                            Pro-Black is Pro-Righteous!

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                            • #15
                              why do you not apply for israeli citizenship ? it will be easier to get afghan passport .

                              and i heard the jewish girls are cheap and easy to get if they know you are jewish .

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