Evidence that Pakistan supports the Taliban

[Soldat_Amir]

I have been looking for ages for this video.

On the video, the founder of the Pakistani Taliban praises Pakistan, this is the man who fought for the Afghan Taliban for quite some time.

Anyway, look at how he praises Pakistan, calls it his own country, he openly declares Pakistan's borders as property of Pakistan, from Karachi, to Sind, Punjab and Peshawar etc.

He then goes onto saying, that the tribal people are the atomic bomb of Pakistan.

Ha ha ha ha, what more do you need to see sense people eh!

These are the guys like Dr Barakzai Abdali who get excited standing next to a Punjabi Commander of the Pakistan army.

Look at the sell outs.

Watch the whole video.

[Soldat_Amir]

A lot of noobs, newbies, wannabe experts on Waziristan especially on this forum too, most being Western born citizens, claim Nek Wazir was a Pashtun Hero, a Nationalist who fought for Pashtun rights ha ha ha ha ha, did you guys know, this video was recorded right after Waziristan was bombed on the orders of the man who is given the Pagray.

Cheap, sell out, fanatics, that is what the Taliban are, who ever has the most money they support them

[Afghanistan2010]

Awaam means citizen not property.

May Allah grant the highest place in Paradise to the hero of Waziristan Nek Muhammad (rah).

[Admin Khan]

Soldat, hope you are in good health.

Why did they kill an ISI official yesterday in Karachi?

[abassinafghan]

thats the people which i critisize , because it dont take too much than you will hear , people calling for becoming pakistanis , because pakistan is the country of islam and this and that , trust me , with enough lack of education and brainwashing children they would belive this .


its a shame that some people reffer to this man as a hero , in my eyes he is only another palawan , who securied his "positon " and "power" with paki help and who was total confortable with his little kingdom , dont realizing what he was doing to him self and his people .

i would have respect him if he had rosen the sword to defend the honour of the pashtun , but instead he is cheering for the *******s of the monguls who where imposed over him by the brits .

no thats not a hero .

[Afghanistan2010]

Soldat, hope you are in good health.

Why did they kill an ISI official yesterday in Karachi?

Look at this conspiracy

Pakistani soldiers lash their own in front of the Taliban

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a66_1341685607

does this even make sense.

(the video actually show pakistan army members beating captured Taliban).

[abassinafghan]

you dont get ??? its not about some foot soldiers killing each other but the broader political stance of different groups , even if they bark in the front they obey in the back

[Afghanistan2010]

Every action has a reaction,read the history of waziristan to why it came to this agreement with the pakistani army,and why Nek Muhammad (rah) is considered a hero.

It is just unbelieveable that pakistan is fighting,slaughtering on oneside TTP and on the otherside they support afghan taliban who themselves are allied with TTP.

[JAMALUDEEN]

A lot of noobs, newbies, wannabe experts on Waziristan especially on this forum too, most being Western born citizens, claim Nek Wazir was a Pashtun Hero, a Nationalist who fought for Pashtun rights ha ha ha ha ha, did you guys know, this video was recorded right after Waziristan was bombed on the orders of the man who is given the Pagray.

Cheap, sell out, fanatics, that is what the Taliban are, who ever has the most money they support them

you are not an expert either.. what is your qualification? and since you claim to be so civilized.. wasn't it you..who was pissing on photos...

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Awaam means citizen not property.

May Allah grant the highest place in Paradise to the hero of Waziristan Nek Muhammad (rah).

either way it demonstrates loyalty to Pakistan ......granting diu'a to a Pakistani agent?


I knew you weren't really against Pakistan

[abassinafghan]

,read the history of waziristan to why it came to this agreement with the pakistani army,and why Nek Muhammad

which history ?? isi history ? paki state zaid hamid history ?

nazi germany and emperial japan were allies in second world war , nazi germany was in war with the soviet union .

the japanese were not in war with the soviet union

It is just unbelieveable that pakistan is fighting,slaughtering on oneside TTP and on the otherside they support afghan taliban who themselves are allied with TTP.

the problem with our people is , that afther 30 years of war , we have short sighted narrow minded , topakian , who dont know what they are doing to their own people by their decisions , just having their own , litte kingdom in mind , and how they can grab some money and some power , regardless how .

mix in some indoctrination about islamic brotherhood , so they will legitimize everything with religion , what they do and as soon you question their decisions it is as if you questioned the existence of allah tallah . they will call you kafir and finish you off . see what they are doing with balochs using ttp or other people who have not friendly views on pakistan , they are not scared about people who have rifles in their hands , but people who got pens in their hands , and ideas in their head.


the pakis can not support the taliban in afg ( which keeps their interessts ) openly they can not even keep being neutral , ( we have seen how long they kept tough , by the way lynx where is your imran khan now ??? )

on the other hand they have also no disadvantage to keep the war going on to some degree . they recieved billions in the last decade ,just in military and civilian cash just for that cause .

their only concern is that an stable goverment formates in afg,regardless it is independent or just an vasall like them , which will then be competition for american military aid .

let us imagine for one moment , the americans were smarter in their decisions and choosed the right people as their servants ( capable people of all political and ethnical backgrounds )

i can gurantee you that the taliban would be not this what they are today and were totaly defeated ,because we all know their biggest asset and edge is the rotteness and incompetence of their adversaries ,i.e kharzai .

so let us keep being in this image , what would be the results ?

afg , recieving 60 billions , having natural rescoursses , and access to the markets of the free world ???
as admin khan said , its easier to be on its feet with 25mio than with 160 mio.
access to development ,technology and money ?

and sooner or later any selfsustaining goverment having reached a certain point would be challenged to take up the durrand and balochistan question!!! wether they like it or not

and after 60 of tyranny , alot of people would be more than willing to leave this rotten zionist state .

and that is what the pakistanis fear the most !!!!

the pakis are not interessted in an independent taliban goverment , who make direct business with the americans either , because this meant sooner or later , the durrand question again , and thats the reason why they are so fast and willing to take out certain people , and avoid to take out others .

and as long they can play their double game , from which they profit to a much greater degree than ,supporting the taliban to full extent or at least being neutral , or being against them , they will continiue as long as possible .

[KhyberKhan]

cool, sloppy edit and chop job of this video with questionable translation and erroreous dubbing.

Bit of context here for those that care.

This was an agreement between nek mohammed and the pakistani state after the moutaineering and infantry division of Pakistan got its backside spanked by Commander Neks forces in wanna. They entered under the false pretense that two assasination attempts originated and were concocted on the then president of Pakistan, Mr Mushy, by someone in the tribal belt. They pointed the finger at the mujahideen.

Mushy subsequently ordered a whole division to enter the tribal belt, but after heavy resistence from Neks forces, the pakistan army had suffered heavy losses they decided to call for a truce with Commander Nek Mohammed (Speaking in video - Here's where Soldats footage comes into play). You can also find videos of the truce whereby the Pakistan army had to hand back every last piece of ammunition and firearm they had captured as part of the agreement (This vid is floating on youtube somewhere). Musharaff was critized for this, but in reality people on the outside weren't aware of the beating the Pak army had taken at Wana, as the media blackout is still enforced in places like N.Waziristan till today, only until actual footage of the battle was released by the umbrella group that Neks forces were amalgamated into, the TTP.

Pakistan army being the deceitful dogs that they are assisaniated Nek with the help of an armerican drone. The truce was then immediately abrogated. Fighting continued until another truce was signed, that was also abrogated by the lal masjid slaughter.

But, yeah, thanks Soldat. Your little clip was about as evidential as the similar brainwashed pakistani public that's been fed conspiracies by PTV that the Taliban are indian RAW agents.

Trawling the internet to find anything that can loosely fit your narrative must get painfully boring.

Get another shtick.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

yeah a truce where he says we're the citizens of Pakistan? Yeah I don't think so; Context is one thing but Spin doctoring is ANOTHER.

[KhyberKhan]

When have they ever denied that they are part of Pakistan. Would you like to tell me what the 'P' stands for in TTP, einstein?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Well there you go Khyber, reinforcing that Taliban are really a Pakistani movement, not a Pashtun one, not an Afghan one. Thank you.