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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bharati View Post
    I heard many good things about him, maybe I'm not well-informed.
    Tell us one good thing or you r just firing blank.

    Originally posted by Bharati View Post
    I think that all the warlords killed innocent people in their war for the control of afghanistan.
    So that's make it ok since all others killed innocents now we can move on and call him (saint), or you r upsit becose India lost a very loyal agent .

    Originally posted by Bharati View Post
    I heard that massoud was a brave man , he defended his panjsher region against the talibans, very bravely.
    Yes very brave Huh,I wonder if bravery have defferent meaning in India ?

    Originally posted by Bharati View Post
    Anyway, talibans are also criminals with their suicide bombing, they also killed innocent people, .
    You have to understand ,Taliban been welcomed by people with open arms becose people were sick and tiered of greaves Masud and others , when the movement first start ,when they failed miserably in the running of country and doing politics that's a defferent issue,
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    • #17
      Originally posted by drona View Post
      Pakhtun criminal is better than Tajik Criminal !!

      Get it ?
      Nice try foreigner ,criminals r criminal regardless of thier ethnicity,
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      • #18
        becose India lost a very loyal agent .
        Prove that.
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        • #19
          gandu , did you know that your hero , was an loyal isi agent long before sowjets came to afghanistan ????

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          • #20
            So he was an indian agent, then he become an isi agent

            Without proofs you are idiots
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bharati View Post
              So he was an indian agent, then he become an isi agent

              Without proofs you are idiots

              the other way around actually.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                you know how many innocent people in Afghanistan he murdered? If you're against the Taliban you should be against him too.
                poor Schimitar. thinking the hindu friend he found actually cares about justice.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  poor Schimitar. thinking the hindu friend he found actually cares about justice.


                  you're upset because you got stumped about why paktiawals helped Pacha Khan evict the Taliiban out of Paktia. No need to thread stalk me about it though
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason
                    No, terrorism is ok if they're working for India; India funneling arms/training/weapons to someone who has murdered probably as many if not more Afghans than the Taliban is perfectly ok.

                    Really though; We're all for India's friendship and cooperation as long as its beneificial to us; but if you think patronage to a criminal is ok just because he served your agenda you can go back to your Indian forums and pat each other on the back of Indian women being used by European Sex Tourists.
                    India will do whatever is necessary to achieve her foreign policy objectives in Afghanistan.

                    But that is boring ... So when are you going to publish your doctoral thesis about the Sex Habits of All and Sundry. From the quality and quantity of your posts about the said FoS, you have had plenty of theoretical and practical experience in the field .

                    Best of luck !
                    Vande Mataram - Lata Mangeshkar - YouTube

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by drona View Post
                      India will do whatever is necessary to achieve her foreign policy objectives in Afghanistan.

                      But that is boring ... So when are you going to publish your doctoral thesis about the Sex Habits of All and Sundry. From the quality and quantity of your posts about the said FoS, you have had plenty of theoretical and practical experience in the field .

                      Best of luck !
                      geee whiz ...sounds like the same policy objectives of another country in the area ......oh yes ..Pakistan ......strange how you're so much alike.

                      There are plenty of documentaries about sex tourism and the exploitation of the poor in India. As sad as it is, and i feel for those people. I'd rather India be desperate enough to send us their money, know-how and developmental efforts to us than to their own people. So please keep it coming, but don't expect any special favors.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        geee whiz ...sounds like the same policy objectives of another country in the area ......oh yes ..Pakistan ......strange how you're so much alike.
                        Gee whiz .. so you have just realized that the prime objective of any country's foreign policy is not based on altruism but its own interest; be it India, Pakistan, China .. or Vanuatu. Maybe you should go back to analyzing the [much more interesting] sexual proclivities of different members rather than commenting on such boring issues.

                        Anyways, ideally India would support a strong, stable, prosperous and liberal Afghanistan, as such a State would have a fissiparous influence on Pakistan; which in turn would oblige Pakistan to look inward rather than meddle in India's internal issues.

                        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                        There are plenty of documentaries about sex tourism and the exploitation of the poor in India. As sad as it is, and i feel for those people. I'd rather India be desperate enough to send us their money, know-how and developmental efforts to us than to their own people. So please keep it coming, but don't expect any special favors.
                        We, Indians, are pragmatic people. We realize our weaknesses. We are shallow materialistic people who love making money, dance and music. Besides, education is important to us. We despise war and strife. Such sissy vocations can only be successfully pursued in a peaceful and stable environment. And we have a long way to go to achieve these objectives.

                        OTOH, we also realize that Pakhtuns are proud, testosterone filled warrior people. They love war and glory. When they are not fighting the foreigners, they are fighting with other Afghan ethnicities or amongst themselves. Such fierce independence and tenacity is seldom seen and really quite admirable.

                        The upshot is that poor Indians really don't mind sacrificing a little and keep the mess contained in the west, in order to insure our future .
                        Vande Mataram - Lata Mangeshkar - YouTube

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                        • #27
                          My father knew him. He only cared about the Tajiks, if he loved Afghanistan so much how did the Russians go through to kabul without a fight? Panjshir is to the north of Kabul the Russian had to go through him to reach it, he only fought when Panjshir was being threatened.

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                          • #28
                            No point to bring Massod out of graves. I believe Massod and people like Golbodeen or Dr Najib or....were all merely little, hence unimportant, pawns of a very big game. It’s the realities of their times (industrialized competition- arms race) that shaped them and made them who they became. The so called Cold War's arms race that employed some of the best minds of the 20th century came with a 20 Trillion dollar price tag- a figure simply beyond comprehension. 20 Trillions were spent to make for mass murder, chaos, violence, suffering etc. Masoods or Omars or Qodus were the direct products of such upside down international relations/global logic- to condemn them or to celebrate them is to have missed the graveness of the situation, our state of affairs...especially during such crucial of times as Now…when the world is transforming ---are we as Afghan able to change our faith as dog fighting ground of every war? Are we able to safe our nation from filth of Punjab rule? The clock is ticking..the changing world is favoring us…are we able to utilize this for our benefit?
                            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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