Imran wants open border between Pakistan, Afghanistan

[Shah-i-Kot]

Imran wants open border between Pakistan, Afghanistan

By Web Desk
Published: February 14, 2012



Imran hoped that both the countries would move forward through the process of dialogue and understanding. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan said on Tuesday that he wants to see an open border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
According to a statement released by the PTI, Afghan Ambassador to Pakistan, Mohammed Umar Daudzai had a telephonic conversation with Imran Khan. Imran expressed regret that successive Pakistani regimes supported various Afghan groups rather than focusing on what the people of Afghanistan really want.
Imran hoped that both the countries could move forward through the process of dialogue and understanding. He said that Pakistan and Afghanistan should have a relationship “free of the excess baggage of the past and of India,” although he stated that the latter factor cannot be ignored.
Imran also conveyed his concerns of a 1989 repeat, when the US withdraw in 2014.
Ambassador Daudzai briefed Imran about Afghanistan’s heavy investment in human development projects including higher education and how present Afghanistan is different from the past one

[Hakim Khan Urgonai]

I also want that, good job.

[tor_khan]

Where the Pashtuns are concerned, I wish there to be fewer border/travel restrictions.

The other side of the coin however is Pakistan's long-term agenda. So far, at least, all indications have been that Pakistan has not been sincere and that it sees (a) Afghanistan as an extension of its own territorial base - which an open border would make easier and (b) the uncontrolled movement of extremist groups.

I have an inherent distrust of politicians, even if they are ex-international playboy cricketers with new-found faith. This mass migration towards Imran Khan's political camp includes the absorption of a number of ex-opposition politicians with serious character integrity flaws.

[abassinafghan]

an open border just regard to them aka pakistan , that means if they want to work , sell their products , steal , and so on and so forth , it must be restriction free , if it comes to us , there will be still controlls and restrictions in 100 years , like the last 100 years .

[NokiaWnW]

Open border means deeper hands in Afghan affairs! Imran Khan = puppy of Pakistan and ISI.

[Shah-i-Kot]

dont worry, he is ending all Pak support for NATO war.

[IamDZJ]

i want a cup of coffee.

[Afghanistan2010]

dont worry, he is ending all Pak support for NATO war.

Brother don't trust such people,they are speakers and deceivers,there will be no real actions

[Shah-i-Kot]

Brother don't trust such people,they are speakers and deceivers,there will be no real actions

I understand that- it is Pakistan after all, but one thing you have to understand is that Pakistan is on the verge of a complete collapse internally.

Make no mistake, Pak generals do not care one whit about Pashtuns, but they do not have the stomach to continue supporting the NATO war due to a growing Pashtun backlash. The Pakistan Army has lost over 7000 soldiers, and are no longer in a mood to continue this.

While it is always good to doubt a Pakistani politician and his words, one has to understand the bigger picture. According to the recent Pew Global research polls, the majority of Pakistanis are against Pakistan support for the NATO war. With this in mind, if Imran wants a second term as PM, he pretty much is forced to make good on all his pledges. If Obama is used as comparison, then in that sense Obama did everything he stated he would do- escalating the war in Afghanistan because it was the "right war." Hence, Imran has repeatedly stated he will work to help NATO exit the region completely. You also have to consider that Pakistan is no longer able to absorb the economic and social impact of supporting the NATO war - civil war pretty much exists in one half of the country. This is all self-interest for the Pakistani elite (generals and army) to get out of this war.


I am aware of the dirty politics of Pakistan, but the thing is Wikileaks disproves this about him as he told the US Ambassador in Pakistan. Remember these Wikileaks cables exposed Fazal Rehman for the dirtbag he is as well as Kayani wanting more drone strikes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/247596

The Pashtun backlash is the central reason why Pakistan is trying to get itself out of this war.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Brother don't trust such people,they are speakers and deceivers,there will be no real actions

This is in regard to his opposition to the NATO war/occupation of Afghanistan as well as his criticism of the Pakistan Army war in FATA revealed by Wikileaks. Contrary to the campaign painting him as the establishments man, he is no friend of the Pakistan Army, even calling them a mercenary army hired by the US in his recent interview with Assange.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326911

Assange Episode 9: 'Pakistan a hired gun to kill US enemies'



I suggest you watch Assange's interview with him too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WacS98ATtIM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/247596

He said our mistake in Afghanistan was failing to isolate Al-Qaeda from the Taliban. Khan called on the U.S. to scale back its operations in Afghanistan to make way for talks.

"Noting that he was recently in Swat, he went on to accuse the Pakistan Army of extrajudicial killings, summary executions, and "sexual humiliation" of residents in some villages."

In regards to his opposition to the Pak Army

"Khan charged that the GOP is "blinded by dollars," and consequently lacks an accurate view of what is happening on the ground. He further claimed that the GOP "whips up the threat of the Taliban" in order to get more money from the U.S. He claimed last year's Swat operation, which he termed a "debacle," was one such exaggeration that was "stage managed" in order to gain U.S. funds; there was no imminent threat of militants marching on Islamabad, he said. "

Khan also claimed that the Lal Masjid operation was similarly stage managed by Musharraf. He called for an end to Pakistan's "insane military action" in the tribal areas, adding that the Army has failed to secure any significant areas of South Waziristan despite GOP statements to the contrary.


2. (C) A congressional delegation led by Representative Stephen Lynch met with Imran Khan, a former professional cricket player who heads the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party, on January 29. Khan welcomed the delegation to his home located on the outskirts of Islamabad in the hills overlooking Rawal Lake. The meeting was held outside on the immaculate lawn of Khan's sizeable home against the backdrop of the foothills of the Himalayas. The picturesque setting, however, lay in stark contrast to the often pointed and critical statements that were later to come from Khan. What was initially scheduled to be a 30-minute courtesy call stretched into an hour-long, largely one-sided, and somewhat uncomfortable conversation, with Khan delivering blunt views on what he considers to be failings of U.S. policy in Pakistan and, by extension, in Afghanistan.

[Afghanistan2010]

I understand that- it is Pakistan after all, but one thing you have to understand is that Pakistan is on the verge of a complete collapse internally.

Make no mistake, Pak generals do not care one whit about Pashtuns, but they do not have the stomach to continue supporting the NATO war due to a growing Pashtun backlash. The Pakistan Army has lost over 7000 soldiers, and are no longer in a mood to continue this.

While it is always good to doubt a Pakistani politician and his words, one has to understand the bigger picture. According to the recent Pew Global research polls, the majority of Pakistanis are against Pakistan support for the NATO war. With this in mind, if Imran wants a second term as PM, he pretty much is forced to make good on all his pledges. If Obama is used as comparison, then in that sense Obama did everything he stated he would do- escalating the war in Afghanistan because it was the "right war." Hence, Imran has repeatedly stated he will work to help NATO exit the region completely. You also have to consider that Pakistan is no longer able to absorb the economic and social impact of supporting the NATO war - civil war pretty much exists in one half of the country. This is all self-interest for the Pakistani elite (generals and army) to get out of this war.


I am aware of the dirty politics of Pakistan, but the thing is Wikileaks disproves this about him as he told the US Ambassador in Pakistan. Remember these Wikileaks cables exposed Fazal Rehman for the dirtbag he is as well as Kayani wanting more drone strikes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-e...cuments/247596


The Pashtun backlash is the central reason why Pakistan is trying to get itself out of this war.

I look forward to a collapse of this criminal state,it is better that it is overrun by tribal fighters of Waziristan and elsewhere,than in the hands of such criminals who butcher innocents, betray,torture,sell people,sell their butts,sell everything,they have already sold back their mothers to the British.

When i was making researches and reports,i questioned NATO officers,why they don't engage in Pakistan,while Osama was found in Pakistan and everything comes from Pakistan,they said,it would make the situation that is already present more worse,we have knowledge that pakistan is a state that lives on criminalty,betrayal....I hope Mullah Zaeef has not forgotten the crimes done to him by Pakistan,may Allah make it possible for him to take revenge.


Don't praise the day in the morning my brother.

Earlier or later,as the TTP said,he will end alongside his counter politicians-

[Shah-i-Kot]

Apart from the above that I posted (the Wikileaks cable and the Julian Assange interview), I will also add that most people critisizing him are Pro-War.

What their opposition to him reveals is that they do indeed have an understanding to Pakistan's role in the continuation of the NATO war/occupation in Afghanistan (with supply routes both air and ground).


Thus, their "opposition" against Pakistan and the Pakistan Army is completely FALSE due to this understanding they have, and understanding they tend to not be open about.

[Afghanistan2010]

brother,I have replied to you in the last post.

[Shah-i-Kot]

Yes I noted that.

Did you read the Wikileaks cables and watch the Assange interview?