Lashkar-i-Jhangvi claims responsibility: 13 lives lost in brutal attack on Shia pilgr

[khushal]

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html

wrong again dummy.
First why are you replying for Toramana. Second Toramana is implying that death and destruction occurs because of religion, I replied that it happens in secular too meaning it happens in both systems. But I do not beleive that religion is the cause nor is secularism because if you look at history, you see secular societies at peace and religious societies at peace but you see both at war also during different time periods. The root of the problem is deeper but your small mind cant fathom such thought process.

[khushal]

from what i have always read about hitler, he was not a secularist, if that is what you are inferring.

Hitler was no atheist but he was a secularist. He mentions God in many of his speeches but so did Bush, and Obama does also but they are all secularist by definition.
I was not referring only to hitler but all the major players that were in conflict with one another were all secularists. Humanity has been always fighting over resources and is in a struggle to devise a system that would decrease these conflicts, to better distribute resources to the planets population. Religion is just a tool that people use to convince people that they are doing the just thing.
Look at Osama who preaches that God was on his side but in reality he wants to divert the middle eastern resources for his own peoples benifit and then look at Bush who preached that God was on his side but in reality wanted to keep diverting middle eastern resources to his own people. They Throw Gods name to try to convince their own poeple that what they are doing is just and noble. Throughout history, I can name many examples including Hitler and Churchil who were on opposing sides but both claimed that God was on his side.
Its just rhetoric. God does not pick a side. It is us who picks Gods side.

[Afghanistan2010]

Afghanistan2010 supports them

I don't support the ruthless killing of innocents,non-combatant people.

But i support anyone who wants liberation,freedom,justice.
I may dislike some shias but this is not a reason to be happy over their death,yes if they fight muslims,i support the war on them and i see it something according to rules of engagment,and according to islam,fighting those who fight us.

[Afghanistan2010]

Afghanistan2010 supports them

Do you know those videos of sikhs...by Mullah Tufaan,from TTP.

You should google for it.

[JattApache]

I don't support the ruthless killing of innocents,non-combatant people.

But i support anyone who wants liberation,freedom,justice.
I may dislike some shias but this is not a reason to be happy over their death,yes if they fight muslims,i support the war on them and i see it something according to rules of engagment,and according to islam,fighting those who fight us.

You support the criminals killing innocent people with their suicide bombing, go to hell.

[JattApache]

Do you know those videos of sikhs...by Mullah Tufaan,from TTP.

You should google for it.

Well pakistani army already raped 35,000 talibans.

So I don't know what the GREAT indian army with its BRAVE sikh soldiers could do against these talibans, because indian army>>>>>>>>pak

[RevolutionThroughReason]

from what i have always read about hitler, he was not a secularist, if that is what you are inferring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Private statements
Hitler's private statements about Christianity were often conflicting. Hitler's intimates, such as Joseph Goebbels, Albert Speer, and Martin Bormann suggest that Hitler generally had negative opinions of Christianity, while Gen. Gerhard Engel and Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber report he was a believer.[4][5]

It was Goebbels opinion that Hitler was "deeply religious but entirely anti-Christian."[27][28] In his diary Goebbels reported that Hitler believed Jesus "also wanted to act against the Jewish world domination. Jewry had him crucified. But Paul falsified his doctrine and undermined ancient Rome."[29] Albert Speer quotes Hitler stating, "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[30]

[RevolutionThroughReason]

wrong again dummy.
First why are you replying for Toramana. Second Toramana is implying that death and destruction occurs because of religion, I replied that it happens in secular too meaning it happens in both systems. .

and you turn around and say "hey look at you guys ....you do it too....wah wah"

yep Tu Quoque it is.

[Afghanistan2010]

Well pakistani army already raped 35,000 talibans.

So I don't know what the GREAT indian army with its BRAVE sikh soldiers could do against these talibans, because indian army>>>>>>>>pak

25 Sikhs rowed,than one by one,its just crazy....while a crowd of about 300 people is cherring and you see the stage is getting red...its just sick....you can find it google.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

sikh people you gandostanis are.

I'm not going to lie ...that made me chuckle

[Afghanistan2010]

let me tell you the sikh fantasies and their version of history.

10 sikhs defeated 10000 pashtuns.

I heared they were the best slaves of the British forces,they were used as humanshields by Britisch forces.

They were socalled experts,but experts in cleaning military boots,kissing them,and getting hit by enemy swords,bullets,arrows.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I agree, Sikh stories of military victory are greatly exaggerated, there is some UNESCO Tribute about some battle during the British Raj against Afghans, how Sikhs defended an outpost against 5000 Afghan tribesman.

what they don't actually say is how they ever determined it was 5000 since 5000 bodies weren't found/buried, how they were able to do this even though there they didn't have the ammunition to fight 5000. and that these were Sepoys, yet had no British commander in charge who confirmed the events.


something reeks of forgery, but I guess we'll never know?

[JattApache]

I heared they were the best slaves of the British forces,they were used as humanshields by Britisch forces.

They were socalled experts,but experts in cleaning military boots,kissing them,and getting hit by enemy swords,bullets,arrows.

My son, during the rule of the sikh empire, the soldiers kicked out ALL the paktiawals from punjab, they cried like little girls, your rule was for only 3years, after that , the locals took the power easily

Even today, india just need to nuke your territory to win
But we are humans, we will never do that, we will just give you a military lesson bevause the Pak army already won against Ttp
Hakeemullah is fearing the drone attacks

Just wait for an offensive of pak army in north waziristan
I would like to see ttp members crying

I support Pak army in their campaign against north waziristan and taliban terrorists

There will be no terrorists after that

[Afghanistan2010]

Seems you are frightend and frustrated hearing about TTP,listen man,

5 armed men were not defeated by your special forces and many soldiers and policemen you want to defeat 10 to 20 000 tribal fighters....

If Pakistan army is ever man enough it should launch an assault on North Waziristan,i promise to them a painful and slow death,they should remember the past operations on Waziristan,Waziristan is not Swat bro,it is Karlani land,land of Nek Muhammad.

You know N.Waziristan is a hub of soldiers of the islamic emirate and TTP.

[JattApache]

Seems you are frightend and frustrated hearing about TTP,listen man,

5 armed men were not defeated by your special forces and many soldiers and policemen you want to defeat 10 to 20 000 tribal fighters....

If Pakistan army is ever man enough it should launch an assault on North Waziristan,i promise to them a painful and slow death,they should remember the past operations on Waziristan,Waziristan is not Swat bro,it is Karlani land,land of Nek Muhammad.

You know N.Waziristan is a hub of soldiers of the islamic emirate and TTP.

Bullsh*t.

Pak army give you a lesson in swat, south waziristan, bajaur, orakzai, now they control all the teritories in nwfp
There is only north waziristan
But pakistan don't want an offensive there, because of the haqqani network, not because they fear,
Idiot, ignorant stupid