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  • #31
    Yea yea yea no Afro Yemeni with his khee khay face can even get .0005% of vote. You are Arab Talib from all your past words that hopefully make you one day to be put in guantanamo with your friends. Admit your true fundamental opinions because I knew you in prior forum when you were aggressive pro stoning pervert


    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    Unlike some pudgy Farsi speaking Rashid Dostum look alike I'd have a much different approach.

    - I would redraft the constitution into an Superficially "Islamic State" but in this constitution, there would be certain caveats which would allow for a more open society and logically based understanding of social problems. Thus the Islamic Penal code, which asks for amputations, stoning/lashing. Will be abolished. Things like Islamic Banking will be given a new modern interpretation, so that interest is differentiated from ribaa. There will be no Jizya for Non-Muslims; since according to the hadith Mahdi will abolish Jizya, so we will say Mahdi told us to abolish the Jizya. There will be ONE LUMP tax for all citizens.


    This will silence critics who demand Islamic Law, by being able to use a more Broad Minded Interpretation of Shari'ah to counter balance them and at the same time allow for more secular practices to be instituted with an Islamic Backing.

    - Crimes like adultery , consuming alcohol, drug use and so on will be dealt with through Psychiatric Treatment and special camps for behavior modification. Executions, Torture and physical abuse will not be used as means of punishment. They are totally abolished.

    - Rank and file Taliban will be repatriated and rehabilitated through special behavioral modification program, Taliban leadership will be put on trial

    This is consistent with the hadith in Kanzul 'Ummal which says "if you can find a reason not to punish someone with hadd, then do it".

    - No official

    - Forced Marriages, "Swarlay" are completely outlawed; all women who are married must have first completed a minimum of 12 years of compulsory education meeting minimum standards of competency. No marriage below 16 years of age.

    Parents/guardians can reject marriage proposals for their daughters or kinswomen if they have legitimate reasons to do so, but these reasons must be taken to a magistrate and the court will decide if the marriage is permitted or not.

    - Marriage and Other social and cultural matters will be dealt with through the a Social Work Agency.

    -Walwar is abolished, there will be a cap on mahr in monetary context. Symbolic mahr are not restricted but their costs will be evaluated and have a cap.

    - We will recognize the Durrand Line and develop an amicable relationship with both Pakistan, India, Iran and all of our neighbors.

    - Build a Unilateral Pan-Asiatic Union With China and the Middle East



    - beards , headscarves and burqas will NOT be banned, nor will suits , skirts and typical clothes being worn now a days. These are a private and personal matter.

    we will have certain standards of decency, there will be a limit to how much of the body can be revealed in a public environment. Violators will be defined and fines will increase for every successive offense.

    - Tribal Mashars will have only limited power and their power will be limited in accord to establish state laws. All power domains of Mashars will be disbanded and redistributed amongst the locals.

    - same with religious leaders and groups

    - Tribal Lashkars will be disbanded

    - Military will be modernized and trained to use special operations tactics to supppress rebellions from any divisive religious, tribl or political group

    - Religious, tribal or political groups who hold suspicious activities or attitudes such as those who urge sedition will be spied upon closely and any notion of extreme tactics; will be squashed immediately


    - Completely Modern Educational system; Emphasis will be on developing technical skills and abilities in hard sciences, engineering, medicine as well as sociology, anthropology and political science.

    arts wiill be purely elective, but they will be patronized by the state

    religious education will also be allowed and even state funded, but religious education will be completely elective and not mandatory and the content will be regulated by the state.

    -The state will not endorse ANY sect or sectarian ideologies whether Shi'ite or Sunnite, but as long as no divisive or deviant/bigoted views are not pronounced then all will be tolerated.

    Wahhabism will not be accepted under any circumstance.

    - Atheism and Irreligiousness will be tolerated so long as those who do respect they're in a Muslim country and abide by the social norms

    Sufi spiiritual philosophy will be encouraged but Sufi Brotherhoods will be closely monitored for potential abuse of exploitation by Pirs.

    - All Legislation will be done in an official assembly, but every issue will be debated first; legislation will be based on which case can prove and demonstrate logically and evidentially from researched data the strongest case for legislation.

    - Support for Kuchiaan and preservation of their traditional lifestyle

    - Abolishment of any ethnic Nationalist parties.

    - development of advanced ecologically viable habitat....not big obnoxious cities like Dostum's Illegitimate Child suggested

    - promotion of alternative fuel technologies.


    - Religious Parties, Groups or Leaders can also participate in legislation but their arguments will not be accepted must have supportive proof and evidence based on science, logic and research and not just jurisprudential interpretation.


    - We would have free elections for legislative body , parliamentary, on federal and state level But there would be a permanent "Vanguard" that remains, who are completely unelected and selected by only certain merit based criterion. This is to ensure and maintain the essential structure and legal system of the Government.

    Certain Laws and practices are immutable according to the established norms as well as understanding of logic, anthropology and society.

    - Religious leaders and scholars must pass basic competency in all major fields of study, Math, Language, History, Science, Sociology and Political Science.

    - All Fatwas given by religious leaders must be ratified by the states and every Fatwa must meet basic standards of Credibility from Islamic sources AS well as using Logic and research to prove claims.

    - No restriction on the participation of women from all aspects of the public sphere of life, whether economically or politically. Including leadership roles such as Heads of State.

    - No foreign military bases allowed in Afghanistan whether from Taliban/Pakistani proxies or United States and so on.

    - Amanullah Khan, Nuruddin Taraki, Hazifullah Amin, Mullah Omar, Najibullah, Ahmad Shah Massoud, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and othr noted figures will be disregarded as ever having legitimate leadership in Afghanistan and will be referred to as "Shames of the Afghan people" Their commemorations and celebrations will be abolished.

    -Sardar Daud Khan will have a day commemorating him.

    - There will be a weekly National Debate from all aspects of Afghan Population over major social issues and controversies and members of panel will use evidence backed arguments to debate their points. It will be 3 hours long and held every saturday (shamba). everyone from Atheists to Hindus to Buddhists to Taosist will be invited.


    - building modern sewerage/sanitation system in all of Afghanistan

    - Leadership roles in the public sphere of life is offered to all ethnicity and both genders.


    - People like "KingofAriana" will be put on exhibit at the Zoo for being stupid and looking like Rashid Dostum

    -Shadowgoverner will be made as official sewer cleaner of Hazarajat; he can tell them what he thinks of Shi'a.

    - UnknownPrince will be sent back to Pakistan

    - concepts like "roshan fikr" and "pas rafta" will be completely stricken from the Afghan vocabulary and replaced by "aqlmand" and "beyaqlmand"; everything will be based on logic and not "roshan fikr"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Master Khan
      just go to the west and stay there, I guess you don't know nothing about our culture and religion

      so Fu** you because I wont vote for your bitch ass


      Don'y worry this KingofAriana can't speak Pashto, and without knowing how to speak Pashto this guy will be spat on like a rabies infested rat.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KingOfAriana View Post
        This is what I would do:

        When i am president:
        -all mullahs gone(all in one airplane and then let the airplane crash)
        -beards, headscarves or burkas banned
        -everything becomes modern(farming technologies, schools with laptops and ipads...)
        -building cities more beautiful than dubai, singapore, monaco...
        -making afghanistan a tourist destination
        -school for everyone boys and girls mixed and forced to go until they are 18 years
        -taliban should get torturing till they are death
        -getting our lands back from dhalkhors, iran, and northern neighbors
        -everyone has to become roshan-fekr
        Iran has right to interfere in Afghanistan such as the northern neighbours as you thugs interfere in Pakistan... the ties between the ethnicities between non-Pashtuns and their western and northern neighbours is stronger you can imagine. Before you try to make some developments in the areas of the non-Pashtun, go and develope the Pashtun regions but be sure that you will face the same what the Karzai-government and all those govs before him like Amanullah Khan faced. Non-Pashtuns will go their ways. You don´t need to worry about it! The reason why they are backward is because they kept backward while they want modernism.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NokiaWnW View Post
          Iran has right to interfere in Afghanistan such as the northern neighbours as you thugs interfere in Pakistan... the ties between the ethnicities between non-Pashtuns and their western and northern neighbours is stronger you can imagine. Before you try to make some developments in the areas of the non-Pashtun, go and develope the Pashtun regions but be sure that you will face the same what the Karzai-government and all those govs before him like Amanullah Khan faced. Non-Pashtuns will go their ways. You don´t need to worry about it! The reason why they are backward is because they kept backward while they want modernism.

          Iranians have a disparaging view of Farsiwan from Afghanistan and kill them bsed on trumped up charges.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #35
            If I was president, I would want to do the following:

            1) First of all, I would adopt a fancy title like so:

            His Majesty, The Wise Holder of Hidden Knowledge, Lord Hakimullah Zmaryalai Khan Killzai, Great Khan of the Ghalji Confederacy and Kharoti Nation in Particular, President of Loy Afghanistan for This Life and Beyond; Saviour of the Afghan People and Islamic Faith; King of the Noble Kuchi and Beloved Man of God; Shah-e-Charsiyan, The Don.

            2) Your capital would be moved from Kabul to Urgun and during the first 3 days of my presidency, several helicopters would drop $500 bills on to the people standing at Urgun bazaar. Subsequently, Loya Paktia will officially become the true cultural capital of Pashtuns, as it rightfully already is and Paktika in particular will see new developments that will make Dubai look like Mogadishu.

            3) Poor people will be fed, clothed, looked after (health care) and educated at no cost. Houses for the homeless will be built at the expense of the rich, who will have to share their wealth with me anyway or be forced to leave and their possessions will then be distributed amongst the populace. Not a sole will live beneath the poverty line, as all would belong to the people and myself, who will share it with them.

            4) Great force will be used to silence political threats, until such a time when none exist and none would ever rise again due to fear of my wrath. Taliban should have no problem with me if I bring Shari`ah and incorporate them in my government. Other rivals will be bribed or killed. Tribal and religious leader will be in my favor, no doubt, else they will also be removed.

            5) All foreigners who cannot justify their presence in Afghanistan would be deported.

            6) Sharia`ah will be successfully implemented in all the land.

            7) Nuclear and space programs will be planned.

            8) Marijuana 100% legalized and available to all.

            9) Complete ban on tobacco, alcohol and other drugs. Crackdown on opium production and anyone growing it will be imprisoned for life.

            10) Equal rights for men and women, according to Islam and strict penalties for those who ignore this.

            11) Pashto will become a "developed" language of science.

            12) New trees will be planted to make Afghanistan more beautiful.

            13) Wildlife conservation and re-introduction of several species that once thrived in the land.

            14) A personal court where any citizen/resident can bring their troubles to me and I will solve them as best I can.

            15) To stay in favour of the people, every Afghan will be given a plot of land when they turn 16, which will be new age of majority.

            16) Arts, literature, etc. will flourish and so will science and technology.

            17) Poor kids who sing and recite the Qur`an to me will be given $100 bills.

            That's all I can think of right now.

            Oh yeah, and we will eventually annex KPK/FATA and Baluchistan, thus gaining access to the sea.

            What can I say, I have that dictator complex
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            • #36
              All Pakistani Pashtuns will also be given Afghan nationality and we will have an open door policy towards our fellow Pashtuns. They would also enjoy all priveliges the Afghans do, provided they can prove their Pashtun-ness. We will develop a concise definition of the word "Pashtun" specifically for this. Other Pakistanis will need a visa.

              Good relations will be maintained with all our neighbours, especially Pakistan, China and (soon to be, once we re-join Afghanistan) India.

              Fast train links connecting major cities to each other and to Pakistan, Iran and Uzbekistan, depending on the proximity. Kabul underground metro will provide cheap and speedy transport to Kabulian. The same will also be made in Mazar, Faizabad, Herat, Jalalabad, Ghazni, Kandahar, Sharan and Kunduz, etc. An Oyster-card like scheme will also be made nation-wide for public transport. Trams for all major cities. National rail serving the whole county will also be built.

              All the widows will be given reparations and jobs.

              Abolition of barbaric, unhuman and unIslamic practices, e.g. Swara.

              People will be given autonomy if they behave, since I hate the police.

              The ideal ideology is Juche, but it doesn't work in real life. Socialism is a nice dream too, but the only way one truly can rule is by using force and flattery.
              Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 06-29-2012, 12:43 AM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                2) Your capital would be moved from Kabul to Urgun and during the first 3 days of my presidency, several helicopters would drop $500 bills on to the people standing at Urgun bazaar. Subsequently, Loya Paktia will officially become the true cultural capital of Pashtuns, as it rightfully already is and Paktika in particular will see new developments that will make Dubai look like Mogadishu.
                Actually, Kabul should stay the capital. I don't want to ruin Urgun by bringing all the filth there.

                The National Museum of Pactyan History and Pride will be constructed at the site of the Ashraka (Octagonal Castle) at Urgun and will be an Afghan Heritage Site.

                Also, anti-racism laws will be implemented. Equal rights for all, regardless of race. People like Nima Khan will be imprisoned for life.
                Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 06-29-2012, 12:59 AM.
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                • #38
                  hey, the opium should be used for pain killers, medicinally. there is a shortage of them throughout the world and england, australia and other countries are growing opium and benefitting financially. why should the afghans, who, are experts at opium growing , miss out?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by faye View Post
                    hey, the opium should be used for pain killers, medicinally. there is a shortage of them throughout the world and england, australia and other countries are growing opium and benefitting financially. why should the afghans, who, are experts at opium growing , miss out?
                    Thank you for your question, peasant woman.

                    Let your King (president on paper, but more or less a monarch in reality) answer this.

                    Opium for morphine and other medical purposes will be grown by the state, while ONLY the opium cultivation for heroine and narcotics will be outlawed.

                    Hope you are satisfied.

                    Vote for Hakim!
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                    • #40
                      good idea, master hakim. glad you are so wise...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        good idea, master hakim. glad you are so wise...
                        Hakim means wise.
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                        • #42
                          of course, oh wise master WISE

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by faye View Post
                            of course, oh wise master WISE
                            W.I.Z.E.


                            W = Wisdom

                            I = ISLAM

                            Z = Zig-zag / life-cycle

                            E = Equality


                            4 jewels for those who accept.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
                              1) First of all, I would adopt a fancy title like so:

                              His Majesty, The Wise Holder of Hidden Knowledge, Lord Hakimullah Zmaryalai Khan Killzai, Great Khan of the Ghalji Confederacy and Kharoti Nation in Particular, President of Loy Afghanistan for This Life and Beyond; Saviour of the Afghan People and Islamic Faith; King of the Noble Kuchi and Beloved Man of God; Shah-e-Charsiyan, The Don.
                              I would like to take this opportunity to add the following to my title:

                              "Crown Jewel of Paktika; The Shamla of Urgun" and "Hakim", at the end.

                              So, that it becomes:

                              His Majesty, The Wise Holder of Hidden Knowledge, Lord Hakimullah Zmaryalai Khan Killzai, Great Khan of the Ghalji Confederacy and Kharoti Nation in Particular, President of Loy Afghanistan for This Life and Beyond; Saviour of the Afghan People and Islamic Faith; King of the Noble Kuchi, Crown Jewel of Paktika; The Shamla of Urgun and Beloved Man of God; Shah-e-Charsiyan, The Don, Hakim.
                              Last edited by Hakim Khan Urgonai; 06-29-2012, 06:31 AM. Reason: Titles are hard work.
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                              • #45
                                Thats easy.
                                steal all the money I can as fast as possible, run off to the US or Europe, raise confused spoiled kids who eventually become alcoholics or drug addicts as a result and pretend we are noble people of afghansitan who tried our best to rebuild the country but the people were just to uneducated to know any better. Eventully return to afghanistan and die as a national hero.

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