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    With eye to NATO’s 2014 pullout, Central Asian security group seeks bigger Afghanistan role

    BEIJING — Central Asian states meeting in Beijing this week say they want a role in stabilizing Afghanistan after most U.S. combat troops leave at the end of 2014, with China’s economic juggernaut leading the charge.

    The war-torn nation’s future is expected to feature prominently in discussions by leaders of the six nations that make up the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The bloc, which includes China, Russia, and four Central Asian states, seeks closer security and economic ties among its members, most prominently through regular meetings and joint military exercises targeting separatists, religious extremists and drug traffickers.

    In comments published Wednesday in the ruling Communist Party’s flagship newspaper, the People’s Daily, Chinese President Hu Jintao outlined a broad plan for the SCO’s future role as the region’s pre-eminent grouping, while firmly rejecting outside meddling.

    “We will continue to follow the concept that regional affairs should be managed by countries in the region, that we should guard against shocks from turbulence outside the region, and should play a bigger role in Afghanistan’s peaceful reconstruction,” Hu said.

    How they plan to do so remains a question. The SCO has yet to declare a unified strategy on Afghanistan and shows little sign of filling the void left by the withdrawal of U.S. and other foreign forces.

    Dominated by the Russia and China, the SCO is widely seen as useful to them as a foil to U.S. influence in Central Asia.

    Underscoring close relations between Beijing and Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin told China’s vice president on Wednesday that the sides were committed to boosting cooperation between their militaries.

    Warming ties between China and Russia have counterbalanced U.S. influence and shielded Syria from international moves to halt its crackdown on a 15-month uprising.

    Despiate that, Russia and fellow SCO member nations Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan are doing their part to ensure an orderly withdrawal, having agreed to allow the reverse transport of alliance equipment after Pakistan shut down southern supply routes six months ago.

    The fourth Central Asian member of the SCO is Tajikistan.

    The pullout will also prompt the end of military operations out of Kyrgyzstan’s Manas air base, meeting China and Russia’s oft-stated objections to a permanent U.S. presence in Central Asia.

    While the SCO’s security plans in Afghanistan remain unclear, economic outreach looks set to lead the way.

    China — which shares a small stretch of border with Afghanistan — is the most dynamic economy in the region and its firms have already moved into Afghanistan. Kabul is hoping exploitation of its vast untapped mineral deposits will help offset the loss of revenue when foreign aid and spending drops with the withdrawal of international combat troops.

    Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told reporters Wednesday that the development of Afghanistan was “closely linked to security and stability” in the region, and that Afghanistan becoming an observer member of the SCO will speed up security and economic cooperation.

    The U.S. Defense Department has estimated the value of Afghanistan’s mineral reserves at $1 trillion. Other estimates have pegged it at $3 trillion or more.

    In December, China’s state-owned National Petroleum Corp. signed a deal allowing it to become the first foreign company to exploit Afghanistan’s oil and natural gas reserves. That comes three years after the China Metallurgical Construction Co. signed a contract to develop the Aynak copper mine in Logar province. Beijing’s $3.5 billion stake in the mine is the largest foreign investment in Afghanistan.

    China’s government has also contributed substantial aid to Afghanistan over the past decade in the form of training and equipment for some security units and government offices, infrastructure investment, and scholarships for Afghan students.

    Russia, which lost nearly 15,000 troops in its disastrous 1979-1989 invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, appears keen to recover some of its lost influence there. Stemming the flow of heroin into Russia is a key concern to be met by increased intelligence work in the country and bolstered border security in surrounding states.

    Moscow also has offered generous assistance to rehabilitate Soviet-era dams and power stations and is exploring natural gas exploitation and infrastructure contracts — putting it on a potential collision course with China.

    Joint participation in the SCO might help paper over some of those differences, but practical cooperation remains elusive.

    “China and Russia have no joint approach to Afghanistan. Cooperation is basically limited to a common political stance,” said Zhao Huasheng, director of the Center for Russia and Central Asia Studies of Fudan University in Shanghai.

    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



    With eye to NATO’s 2014 pullout, Central Asian security group seeks bigger Afghanistan role

  • #2
    It sounds to me that with NATO withdrawal from Afghanistan via northern route, US, Central Asian states, India, and Russia's interests in Afghnistan seem to be somewhat converging. In this regard, one should notice NATO signing exit treaty with Uzbakistan, Tajakistan, Kazakistan, and Russia via northern routes and Penneta visit to India focused on Afg and China.

    China in all this seems to be charting its own course. Pakistan's role seems to be somewhat curtailed.
    Last edited by Toramana; 06-06-2012, 11:22 PM.

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    • #3
      China and Russias interests are counter to each other, they have competing imperial interests. China will back pakistan in supporting the Taliban. Russia will back the central asian states, Iran and India in supporting the NA.

      Americas interests lie with Sunni Arab states, Pakistan and the Taliban. America is going against its natural allies in the region. Complete Idiots.

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      • #4
        It is very doubtful there will be a civil war for various factors. The ANA is largely comprised of people who just need an income to get by. In my opinion, it is not comprised of the Northern Alliance. For the last decade, the Northern Alliance has sat back and got fat while they watched NATO fight their battle and fail at it.


        Their leaders have built mansions in Dubai along with the Karzais, and when leadership is that corrupted- it reasonable to conclude that there is no one that will be willing to fight for them. What does the NA exactly represent ? Drugs, pimps, prostitutes, murder, etc. etc. Who will fight for that? Its not ethnic because these fascists are abusing their own people. They are criminals.

        If there is anything that resembles a civil war, it will last perhaps 3-5 months.


        It is my opinion that peace is coming to Afghanistan around 2015 or even before that depending o9n several factors.

        Karzai and his regime members will leave.

        What actually comes clear from the SCO conference today is that the regional nations, especially China have realized what is going to happen, and Karzai is fully aware of that too which explains why he isnt that excited about China's enthusiasm for 2014.

        In my opinion with China's rise, Afghanistan will be at peace for a long time. Relations with China are probably the most important for the next century or so
        Last edited by Shah-i-Kot; 06-07-2012, 02:27 AM.

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        • #5
          again litte lynx dont see and dont understand

          In my opinion with China's rise, Afghanistan will be at peace for a long time. Relations with China are probably the most important for the next century or so
          if china considers pakistan its ISRAEL , what do you think who again will be the leader of any relation .

          pakistan even not allow the one eyed donkey to have direct talks with the americans , than do you belive they will allow the taliban having any direct links to the chinese ????


          besides the chinese are all ready stealing in collaboration with their maoist scholai tajik facists . the cooper mine were sold to them for 300 mio , and as we all know the real value of this mine is much above this , especially if we consider that they dont process it further in afg . but just take the ore , which also contains other metalls like platinum or pallladium , and ship it to china .

          so to belive chinese will be your saviour together with imran khan is the most foolish assumption i ever heard .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
            again litte lynx dont see and dont understand

            if china considers pakistan its ISRAEL , what do you think who again will be the leader of any relation .

            pakistan even not allow the one eyed donkey to have direct talks with the americans , than do you belive they will allow the taliban having any direct links to the chinese ????

            besides the chinese are all ready stealing in collaboration with their maoist scholai tajik facists . the cooper mine were sold to them for 300 mio , and as we all know the real value of this mine is much above this , especially if we consider that they dont process it further in afg . but just take the ore , which also contains other metalls like platinum or pallladium , and ship it to china .

            so to belive chinese will be your saviour together with imran khan is the most foolish assumption i ever heard .
            Currently its hard to steal the resources from afghanitan because lack of transporation infrastructure. India is funding roads and railways to Iran while others are being built to the North "istan" States. China does not really have any influence or infrastructure for those resources to be funneled to it except through Pakistan(the problem is the pakistani routes are unstable). With this Summit, it wants to use the cooperation from the "istan" states to somehow get those resources to China. Russia is not going to like China having influence in its former colonies.

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            • #7
              lynx talks about budding up to a communist country, who supposedly oppresses and harms muslims, with many citizens becoming christian.
              he hates secularists etc etc etc, yet approves this relationship.
              lol, lynx, why you don't want the afghan government to buddy up with malaysia, indonesia and other wealthy muslim nations?

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