Taliban denies killing member of Afghan peace council

[faye]

when i debate with scarecrows, i use strawman arguments.
so you claim. which europeans destroyed your home? no chance to return?

[Khostai]

thats what I said, amongst themselves. the specific international law we speak is as old as man himself. some kuffar didnt invent it. The khalifa even followed it. your using emotional blackmail tactics by falsely labeling it as a kuffar law.

The law is as natural as gravity. The catalyst for the insecurity is the occupation. security will never improve unless the occuaption ends. Once the occuaption ends, then the filtering out of the other evil parties will naturally occur until there is balance. Right now there is a very powerful force(the occupation) preventing balance to occur. That is why the law states that the occupier is liable for everything because the occupier is preventing balance to occur.

Natural filtering of evil parties???? What do you mean by that, what is the filtering that you mean and who are the good en who are the evil parties??

And what is your balance, balance like that acuured after king Amanullah fled the country and for 50 years Afghanistan was frozen in time, that kind of balance do you mean?? Or something else?

[Khostai]

when i debate with scarecrows, i use strawman arguments.
so you claim. which europeans destroyed your home? no chance to return?

To begin whith the Britisch and then Russians and now US+there friends, and all of them are Europeans. There is no difrence, Australians are also Europeans, I know you like tomake difrence but there is not, I am Afghan and live in Europe, I am still an Afghan and not a European, the same whith US and Australians... You can say what ever you want but Kushal have a point, Europeans are only nice to themself they will do everything what they want to get there goal of becoming rich and powerful. Look at US, they funded extremist all over the Middel-East plus they are big friends whith Saudie Arabia, a country where women are not even allowed to drive :S. And now they are talking about equality and human rights like they really care -_- And not to forget the British the bigest shaitan nation of the world. Every singel world problem is related to them....
Israel Palestine becuase of the Britisch...
Durand line becuse of the British
Civil war in Afrian nation is becuase of the british making irrational borders
Vietnam war
Korean war
Industrial polution becuase of the british, they came up whith this idea
War in Iraq Britian and US together
War in Afghanistan again Britain and US
Who suported Qadafi, Mubarak and Syrian president? again Britisch and the rest of Europe toghther whith US
Who gave money to taliban and wapons US and Britain and there dogs
Who installed a goverment of murderes pedhophiles in Afghanistan again US toghether whith Britain.
The list is actualy endles.....

[faye]

qadaffi and his cronies, army and police were not european, mubarak and all his supporters were/are not european, taliban and the other tribes of afghanistan who had a civil war and destroyed so much of afghanistan, are not european, pakistanis in pakistan are not european, your bacha bazi are not europeans and wasn't introduced by europeans and i could go on. the afghan police who are mistreating afhans are not europeans. you want to believe that only one group are the problem on the planet, whatever i say, won't stop you.
look at what is happening in syria. assad is not european and his police and army are not europeans. iraq. sunni and shia.
i find it quite amusing that history only goes so far back for people like yourself, so that the invasions/imperialism of muslims is not mentioned. why did they invade all of those countries khostai? is it because they believed they are superior and had to control others? sound like anybody?
the brits might have done many rotten things but it looks as though a lot of creeps are easily bought/controlled or manipulated. why is that?

[Khostai]

qadaffi and his cronies, army and police were not european, mubarak and all his supporters were/are not european, taliban and the other tribes of afghanistan who had a civil war and destroyed so much of afghanistan, are not european, pakistanis in pakistan are not european, your bacha bazi are not europeans and wasn't introduced by europeans and i could go on. the afghan police who are mistreating afhans are not europeans. you want to believe that only one group are the problem on the planet, whatever i say, won't stop you.
look at what is happening in syria. assad is not european and his police and army are not europeans. iraq. sunni and shia.
i find it quite amusing that history only goes so far back for people like yourself, so that the invasions/imperialism of muslims is not mentioned. why did they invade all of those countries khostai? is it because they believed they are superior and had to control others? sound like anybody?
the brits might have done many rotten things but it looks as though a lot of creeps are easily bought/controlled or manipulated. why is that?

Yes I know that Qadafi, Assad and taliban are not Europeans, but the Europeans are giving them power, they don't care what kind of peopel they are, they only care if there interests are save. Euros only begin about human rights when they don't get what they want. Don't deny this, Arabs did also a lot of things in the past I don't deny that, but at least non of the Arab countries are invading other countries and bringing Sharia there now, but Europeans do whith there democraties the same thing what they did hunderds year ago in the name of Christ. They first destroy the original progressive movement like in Afghanistan then give fuel to civil war and then invade in the name of justice and democratie. That's there tactic and denying this just becuase Arabs 1200 years ago expanded there teritory and brought Islam is just stupid, and by the way, they brought also peace and stability in Asia, only after the Mongols everything went downwards.....

And one thing by europeans I mean the peopel in power, normal peopel like everywhere are just clueless as usual like yourself....

[RevolutionThroughReason]

thats what I said, amongst themselves. the specific international law we speak is as old as man himself. some kuffar didnt invent it. The khalifa even followed it. your using emotional blackmail tactics by falsely labeling it as a kuffar law.

The law is as natural as gravity. The catalyst for the insecurity is the occupation. security will never improve unless the occuaption ends. Once the occuaption ends, then the filtering out of the other evil parties will naturally occur until there is balance. Right now there is a very powerful force(the occupation) preventing balance to occur. That is why the law states that the occupier is liable for everything because the occupier is preventing balance to occur.

Your response is Just a bunch of empty jargon and rhetorical ploys and lack any verification or evidence to support them. Me saying it is a kufar law isn't emotional black mail at all; it's a fact, these are kufar manufctured laws. And Islamically they don't count for how we evaluate criminals or justice. There's no such law in any Shari'ah Qanun.

If ANYTHING what demonstrates Emotional Blackmail is your attempt t appeal to the concept of "natural"; it's a desperate attempt to make it seem like they have intrinsic credibility so that we accept your narrative to Exonerate the Taliban; when none of these laws existed prior to the kufar. There is no logic behind it what so ever, it is purely red herring.

you say you're not a Taliban apologist, but you're doing whatever you can to exonerate them.

[faye]

khostai, i don't have a religion, so the jew, christian and muslim issue is something that i find unproductive, for the people and the planet. why work to heal the problems of the world when you are expecting it to end with some kind of armagedden? i saw a christian smiling at bad news. she told me she was happy because it meant the 'end is getting closer'.
it is not just in the past, it is a reality still for many who have these religions. the christians in america are all pally pally with the israelis and supporting them. muslims are ranting on websites about taking over america, europe and australia. westerners are talking against muslims, secularists are peed off at all religions.
history is full of different races, killing and oppressing each other. the muslims have been internally fighting each other since the sunni shia split, from what i can gather. europeans have been fighting each other. africans etc etc etc.
american indians were fighting american indians before the euros got there.
the maoris may have taken over new zeland from others.
the westerners might be the biggest bast**** at the moment but they certainly aren't the only bast****.
what race and religion are the the money men, bankers and multinationals who make money from these wars? do you think they are all europeans?
australia consists of over 2oo different ancestries and over 200 different languages. we don't have to slaughter thousands of people each time we change governance..at the moment.
so we must be doing something right.
which country are you living in?

[Khostai]

khostai, i don't have a religion, so the jew, christian and muslim issue is something that i find unproductive, for the people and the planet. why work to heal the problems of the world when you are expecting it to end with some kind of armagedden? i saw a christian smiling at bad news. she told me she was happy because it meant the 'end is getting closer'.
it is not just in the past, it is a reality still for many who have these religions. the christians in america are all pally pally with the israelis and supporting them. muslims are ranting on websites about taking over america, europe and australia. westerners are talking against muslims, secularists are peed off at all religions.
history is full of different races, killing and oppressing each other. the muslims have been internally fighting each other since the sunni shia split, from what i can gather. europeans have been fighting each other. africans etc etc etc.
american indians were fighting american indians before the euros got there.
the maoris may have taken over new zeland from others.
the westerners might be the biggest bast**** at the moment but they certainly aren't the only bast****.
what race and religion are the the money men, bankers and multinationals who make money from these wars? do you think they are all europeans.

-_-. The thing that I understan from you is that, what US en Europe are doing to the world now is normal becuase arabs, africans and native americans were doing the same **** hunderds of years ago, is that your point?

[faye]

you didn't answer my questions.
did i say i liked it or approved of it? i think war is the lowest of human endeavour.
it is sh+t and what is happening in any country, and there are many where people are abusing each other, kidnapping, killing, torturing is also the lowest that humanity can go.
it just seems to me, that some people like to ignore history and blame everything on the europeans.
that means you believe them to be all powerful.
for example, i read that assad was courted by the americans but would not play. therefore, his actions of slaughtering his people is not controlled by the west, if what i read is true.
why do those dictators have to be so wicked to their people? that the people then want to rebel?
one iraqi refugee to australia told me, the americans forced saddam to have 10 palaces. i says, 'how, why?' the iraqi guy tells me, 'saddam had to prove how powerful he was' duuuhhhh. i said, but it only made saddam look like a fool.
he didn't agree.
i get angry about american government too, but i also realise that we, in many countries, give them power by not refusing or questioning them. lots of people give that power to them. i have seen videos where women are calling for hillary clinton to help the women of saudi arabia or people calling for america to get involved to stop these killings in the middle east.

[khushal]

Your response is Just a bunch of empty jargon and rhetorical ploys and lack any verification or evidence to support them. Me saying it is a kufar law isn't emotional black mail at all; it's a fact, these are kufar manufctured laws. And Islamically they don't count for how we evaluate criminals or justice. There's no such law in any Shari'ah Qanun.

If ANYTHING what demonstrates Emotional Blackmail is your attempt t appeal to the concept of "natural"; it's a desperate attempt to make it seem like they have intrinsic credibility so that we accept your narrative to Exonerate the Taliban; when none of these laws existed prior to the kufar. There is no logic behind it what so ever, it is purely red herring.

you say you're not a Taliban apologist, but you're doing whatever you can to exonerate them.

all your doing is bashing the taliban, what im doing is explaining what scholars have been saying all along and what they will be saying hundreds of years in the future. You and others can bash the taliban all you want, it wont bring balance. My proposal leads to balance.

[khushal]

khostai, i don't have a religion, so the jew, christian and muslim issue is something that i find unproductive, for the people and the planet. why work to heal the problems of the world when you are expecting it to end with some kind of armagedden? i saw a christian smiling at bad news. she told me she was happy because it meant the 'end is getting closer'.
it is not just in the past, it is a reality still for many who have these religions. the christians in america are all pally pally with the israelis and supporting them. muslims are ranting on websites about taking over america, europe and australia. westerners are talking against muslims, secularists are peed off at all religions.
history is full of different races, killing and oppressing each other. the muslims have been internally fighting each other since the sunni shia split, from what i can gather. europeans have been fighting each other. africans etc etc etc.
american indians were fighting american indians before the euros got there.
the maoris may have taken over new zeland from others.
the westerners might be the biggest bast**** at the moment but they certainly aren't the only bast****.
what race and religion are the the money men, bankers and multinationals who make money from these wars? do you think they are all europeans?
australia consists of over 2oo different ancestries and over 200 different languages. we don't have to slaughter thousands of people each time we change governance..at the moment.
so we must be doing something right.
which country are you living in?

humans have killed each other no boubt. but it were the modern northern europeans that institutionlized the extermination of people and the enslavement of people for the sake of economic power.
you dont have to kill thousands of people to change governmnet, but you do have to kill hundreds of thousands of people to keep the economy going. The west does not care about its people nor other people, Its only motivation is to keep the economy going and it will detroy anything in its way including itself.

[faye]

the west is doing much of what you say but it looks to me at the moment, across the globe, that the west could just sit back and let many non westerners genocide themselves.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

all your doing is bashing the taliban, what im doing is explaining what scholars have been saying all along and what they will be saying hundreds of years in the future. You and others can bash the taliban all you want, it wont bring balance. My proposal leads to balance.

Then show one Shari'ah Qanun that shows that scholars confirm your position




your proposal is an excuse for the Taliban to murder Afghans and not take responsibility for it.

[faye]

if osama did 9/11, wouldn't that have been against the qu'ran, as it killed innocents and muslims too?

[khushal]

Then show one Shari'ah Qanun that shows that scholars confirm your position

your proposal is an excuse for the Taliban to murder Afghans and not take responsibility for it.

you are so blindly bashing the taliban, you dont even know what my position is. focus on the catalyst. get rid of the catalyst, you get rid of the taliban is they are what you say they are. It is a natural filtering process.