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    Parliamentarians on Monday denounced as interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs a request from the Iranian ambassador to the upper house to reject a recently-signed strategic partnership agreement between Kabul and Washington.
    The lawmakers said the demand from the new Iranian envoy to Afghanistan, Abul Fazal Zuhrawand, was direct meddling in the country’s domestic affairs and such interference should be stopped in the future.
    The envoy issued the call during an introductory meeting with Senate Chairman Fazl Hadi Muslimyar in Kabul last week. Senator Nisar Haris, who also attended the meeting, told Pajhwok Afghan News that Zuhrawand’s remarks showed the agreement was against the interest of Iran.
    However, he said Muslimyar told the Iranian diplomat that Afghanistan was an independent country with an elected government and constitution, and Afghans themselves would decide what made their future secure.
    Muslimyar said Afghanistan wanted good relations with its neighbours and it had been clarified in the strategic cooperation agreement with the US that Afghan soil would not be used against a foreign country.
    Haris slammed the remarks of the Iranian diplomat as against diplomatic ethics, saying that he had no right to interfere in the affairs of Afghanistan.
    “I will say the neighbouring countries should not bring their differences to Afghanistan. If Iran is concerned about its national interest, the Afghans also care about their interest. Afghans will support every effort that leads to peace and stability in their country,” he said.
    He asked Iran, on behalf of the Afghan parliament, to stop interfering in Afghanistan’s internal affairs. What Afghanis were passing through today was the legacy of neighbours’ interference, he alleged.
    Another senator, Mohammad Duad Asas, voiced a similar view, saying that Afghanistan need not take care of Iran’s interest. “Iran has never taken part in Afghanistan’s reconstruction. Signing deals with foreign countries is the right of Afghanistan as an independent state.”
    He warned that Iran would continue to make efforts at sabotaging the accord. “If we want something in the interest of the country, the accord must be approved,” he stressed.
    “Other neighbouring countries are also expected to express their opposition to the agreement, but the way Iran is opposing it is shameful,” commented Khalid Pashtun, another MP. He said signing the contract was a national decision and a result of foreign interference in the country, claiming the agreement had been signed to protect the country from foreign aggression.
    A day earlier, Iran foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast also expressed Iran’s concerns about the strategic partnership agreement. He said since no timetable for permanent US military bases in Afghanistan had been clarified in the accord, and regional countries were worried about the deal.
    Pakistan's foreign ministry spokesman Moazzam Ahmad Khan on Thursday told reporters in Islamabad that Afghanistan was a sovereign country and it was up to the Afghans what kind of relations they wanted with foreign states. He said Pakistani was ready to support every agreement that could bring peace and stability to the Afghan nation.

    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

  • #2
    woooooow

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    • #3
      Weley khanda darzi?
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        I am khaandam at the guts that the Afghan parliament has found. I don't know where these came from Lol.

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        • #5
          This is nothing new. They now remind me of the Pakistani parliament as to how they shout similar things, but at the end of the day, they are subservient to America, and not sovereign. I guess Af-Pak really are conjoined twins with no border. Pakistan being the international hub of terrorism sends terrorists over to Kabul, and I wouldn't be surprised if NDS is involved in similar activities. Notice how when a bomb blast occurs in Kabul, it takes weeks for something similar to happen in Pakistan. Both nations out to destroy each other, which is why capturing Iranians or Pakistanis out for trouble in Afghanistan is nothing new.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            Yes right. All are slaves of the slave

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
              This is nothing new. They now remind me of the Pakistani parliament as to how they shout similar things, but at the end of the day, they are subservient to America, and not sovereign. I guess Af-Pak really are conjoined twins with no border. Pakistan being the international hub of terrorism sends terrorists over to Kabul, and I wouldn't be surprised if NDS is involved in similar activities. Notice how when a bomb blast occurs in Kabul, it takes weeks for something similar to happen in Pakistan. Both nations out to destroy each other, which is why capturing Iranians or Pakistanis out for trouble in Afghanistan is nothing new.
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              • #8
                That's good though, the Arabs sadly, don't know how to rule themselves. I am not saying that Iran should meddle but I'd rather have Iran rule than Saudis.

                Arab's also NEED to be ruled directly by another Ethnic Group so all this "Ooooh I am Arab ..I am so proud of myself for being Arab" attitudes goes away.

                I think Kurds, Turks or Cherkes people should be installed into power over the Arab world just like the the days of Salahuddin, since he was Kurdish. Then Arabs will be humble.
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #9
                  and for people who are trying to say Salahuddin was an Arab or had Arab ancestry. Think again

                  The biographer Ibn Khallikan writes, "Historians agree in stating that [Saladin's] father and family belonged to Duwin [Dvin]....They were Kurds and belonged to the Rawādiya (sic), which is a branch of the great tribe al-Hadāniya": Minorsky (1953), p. 124. The medieval historian Ibn Athir relates a passage from another commander: "...both you and Saladin are Kurds and you will not let power pass into the hands of the Turks": Minorsky (1953), p. 138.
                  the end

                  sorry for the side note
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #10
                    All people should rule themselves? So you oppose the Khilafah?



                    what is so bad about Iran ruling Arabs other than being Shi'a? Saudi is a peaceful country? Is this in the 10th Dimension. Saudia is more corrupt than Iran.

                    Salahuddin is part Arab from his mother? Well in Middle Eastern society your nisbah is from your father, so it won't count. Also I read Salahuddin's mother was Turkish, not Arab
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #11
                      But the Saudi government are puppets, so are Bahrainis. I don't think Iran is awesome, but Iran is better than Saudis. the Saudis do more fasad than Iran does.

                      Saudis are also known for funding Suicide bombing in Iraq and in Afghanistan, so clearly not peaceful. Now Iran also supplies the Taliban somewhat, but they don't encourage suicide attacks in Afghanistan at least.

                      The Shi'a in Yemen are Zaydi and Zaydi are closer to Sunnis because they believe in Abu Bakr and Umar as Khilafah, also their Madhab is essentially Hanafi. There are no Ithna 'Ashari, Oman is Ibadi Mulsim, I never heard of Shi'a there. Also about 15% of Saudi are Shi'a Ithna 'Ashari, which are identical with Iranians. So Saudis do have some type of connection to Iran at least 15 % of them. Bahrain is also majority Shi'a and so is Iraq. Iraq definitely has cultural connections to Iran even through ancient history.65% of Iraq is Shi'a I believe?

                      Why does it matter if someone is Shi'a or not?


                      I am not supporting Iran but I am saying, the reasons Saudis are against Iran is because they want power, not because Iran are evil, Saudi are even more evil. Iran can't be any worse than Saudi rule. At least Iran does NOT have American bases.
                      Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 05-08-2012, 12:44 PM.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                        iran shouldnt even rule the sunnis in that country let alone the Ummah.

                        you must be out of your freaking mind.


                        should Sunnis in Afghanistan rule Shi'a in Afghanistan then?
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #13
                          @ Al--Arab

                          These stories don't impress me because Shi'a killed Sunnis and Sunnis killed Shi'a

                          and the reason this happened is because of the Saudis funding suicide attacks against Shi'a in Iraq nd then Shi'a got angry and retaliated.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shadowgoverner
                            yes and they have.
                            the majority of ummah are ahle sunnah dont play ignorant with me.
                            Than again Sunnah is Islam shia is deviation.


                            so what if the majority of the Ummah is Sunni, why should Sunni rule the Shi'a , and not vice versa, why does one side have the right of authority?
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by al-arab
                              I found English language clip of this video which tell you how the situation is in Iraq form the current Irani puppets.

                              .

                              Ok well Marginalizations happen , Iraq is majority Shi'a; the same sort of marginalization happens in Saudi with Shi'a and also with Afghanistan.

                              I think Sunnis (remember I am also from a Sunni background) need to stop being so arrogant and strt thinking if we mistreat others others will do the same in return. It's about reciprocity we need to start treating others fairly if we want to be treated fairly.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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