Enduring strategic partnership agreement

[Khostai]

Hallo everyone here is the document that was signed by Karzai and Obama for peopel who are interested

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2012.06.01u.s.-afghanistanspasignedtext.pdf

[Khostai]

^did he congratulated you too?

[Khostai]

Oh is that the reason that you have a picture of cranky man on your profile?

[abassinafghan]

this durrand agreement 2.0 was nothing unexpected , but consider napakistan did this in 1947 !!!! saudi arabia in the 50s/60s so did the gulf ....

even if the american leave , the talibs will respect this this treatry ,even if they bark against it now !!!!


and for me there is no difference between ,offical signed durrand 2.0 or mullah omars inofficial isi jasousie .

[Afghanistan2010]

Wow,foreigner came to our country,threatend and killed us,raped our females,destroyed our villages,and while we have nothing left except lying in blood,they continue to force us and threaten us by weapon to accept their laws on our soil in our country,for our people they decide,if we live or die ?

Humanity ?
Human rights ?
Equality ?

If americans were allowed to fight the british,to declare their freedom.
if the frenchs fought for their freedom.

why can an afghan man not fight for his freedom,rights,peace.

have we stolen the land of anyone,as the europeans did to the red indians ?
have we stolen the ressources as the europeans did to africa and central asia?
have we killed anyone as the europeans did in two world wars.

what is the matter with us ?
are we not judged by the same laws as your are judged or you write laws specialized for us because we are not equal,backward, like animals ?

think about it,

if any afghan accep this ....i remember the words of our forefathers,
the word of the words is the word of the sword.

[abassinafghan]

there more than enough afghans and pashtuns who would be glad to recognize the durrand line , and there more than enough muslim brothers who tell you that its nationalism if you ask your haq .

and the same it will be with this piece of toilett paper , and even if the americans go home , and the fighting is over and perfect shariat will come like in the old days , we will be still not free....

just then for the simple and stuoid it wont be sooo obvious like now , just look over to saudi arabia and the rest .... thats their plan .

and i can gurantee you that taliban will hold on to this treatry , they are not better than germany , france , england , saudi arabia or pakistan , let alone capable .

even if you double and triple the numbers no more than 10 000 deads on their side , and most of those individuals were considerd **** in their societies , mean while the killed civilians on our side goes into the hundred thousands if not milion .


besides if money talks , you will see alot of people changing their mind ... the mujahedin of yesterday are the traitors of today .

people dont get corrupted , if they were not corupt and rotten from the begining

what is the matter with us ?

the matter is we dont sent our children to school , the matter is we dont care about ourself , but cry pseudo tears about the poor palestinians and the bad jews , the matter is we prefer strangers

who seek their own interessts instead of our own people , the matter is if an uneducated arab comes by , talking some arabic we regard him higher than our own aliman .

the matter is we dont judge people by their acts , by their lagecy , by their history , but if they are regarded as good muslims or not , if they fasted and prayed 5 times a day , regardless meanwhile they

were selling their own brothers and land for some cash .


thats the matter , all our suffering would have not occoured if we would realize that we as a society are broken down , that not communist nor echaune muslimin or taliban or neo "democrats" found a solution or has the solution for our problems !!!!

[Shah-i-Kot]

Happy to disappoint you Khostai,

but the tissue paper pact is meaningless without Pakistan supply routes to NATO/Karzai. Pakistan can not politically afford to have another major war with FATA, nor can they poltically afford to support the NATO war/Karzai regime anymore.


As I guessed all the grandstanding and signing ceremonies were specifically aimed at "sending a message" to Afghans and the regional countries. What message can be sent by signing a pact with a lame duck/puppet? I mean everyone knew Karzai was going to sign a pact with the US, India, Germany, etc.

Well, if you look at how angry this dude is below, it actually all starts to become quite a laugh

"U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker, the diplomat who spearheaded the difficult strategic talks with the Afghans, said Wednesday that the 10-year plan signed by Mr. Obama was intended, in part, to send a message to Pakistan.
"I would hope that Pakistan would take a look at this agreement and say, 'Whoa, the Americans are not going to cut and run this time. We don't need to hedge our bets,' " he told reporters at the U.S. Embassy.
Should the diplomatic message fail, Mr. Crocker indicated that the agreement keeps open the possibility that the U.S. could seek to use military bases in Afghanistan to launch deadly drone strikes on Pakistan-based insurgents. That is likely to fuel resentment in Pakistan, where drone strikes have whipped up extreme anti-American sentiments.
"Attacks planned and launched from Pakistan target civilians, international forces and Afghan security forces, and we have the right under the United Nations charter to respond to those attacks—and we will," Mr. Crocker said."

[Shah-i-Kot]

the irony of the Durrand line is that it has come back to bite the British.

Again, celebrate the "pact" while you can, but rest assured it means nothing.

You will see !!

[NokiaWnW]

Wow,foreigner came to our country,threatend and killed us,raped our females,destroyed our villages,and while we have nothing left except lying in blood,they continue to force us and threaten us by weapon to accept their laws on our soil in our country,for our people they decide,if we live or die ?

Humanity ?
Human rights ?
Equality ?

If americans were allowed to fight the british,to declare their freedom.
if the frenchs fought for their freedom.

why can an afghan man not fight for his freedom,rights,peace.

have we stolen the land of anyone,as the europeans did to the red indians ?
have we stolen the ressources as the europeans did to africa and central asia?
have we killed anyone as the europeans did in two world wars.

what is the matter with us ?
are we not judged by the same laws as your are judged or you write laws specialized for us because we are not equal,backward, like animals ?

think about it,

if any afghan accep this ....i remember the words of our forefathers,
the word of the words is the word of the sword.

What have you done? Bringing foreigners, raping women, killing and looting. Now people ask for payback-day. That´s why the war is only lead by one group against NATO. Once NATO withdraw you think Taliban can fight on the wider area or reconquer Afghanistan? Stop pointing the fialures of others when you are full of failures. You get what you deserves! You support Taliban and Afghan killing or the war against those who financed you? Than don´t cry when ''foreigners'' come and rape, look and kill you.