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  • Australia to begin Afghan exit a year early

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...83G00X20120417




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    By Maggie Lu YueYang
    CANBERRA | Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:58am BST

    (Reuters) - Australia will start withdrawing troops from Afghanistan this year and expects all international forces there to be playing a supporting role for Afghan forces by mid-2013, Prime Minister Julia Gillard said on Tuesday.
    Gillard will take her timetable for Australia's troop withdraw a year earlier than planned to a NATO conference on Afghanistan in Chicago in May.
    "I am now confident that Chicago will recognise mid-2013 as a key milestone in the international strategy," Gillard said in a speech to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in Canberra.
    "A crucial point when the international forces will be able to move to a supporting role across all of Afghanistan."
    All foreign combat troops are due to be out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014 and Australia had been expected to withdraw then too.
    U.S. President Barack Obama and other NATO leaders are expected to define more clearly Western withdrawal plans at the Chicago conference and outline measures to ensure Afghanistan does not collapse into civil war when foreign troops go home.
    Gillard rejected suggestions the faster timetable was being driven by Obama and his desire to have withdrawal plans finalised before the November U.S. presidential election, saying it was reliant on progress agreed by Afghan and international forces.
    A major assault in Kabul by the Taliban this week has raised questions about whether Afghan forces will be able to control security after foreign troops withdraw.
    A spokesman for NATO's Afghan force said its members were drawing up plans for handing over responsibility for security to Afghan forces and Gillard's announcement would be taken into account.
    "We are at the stage where all nations are discussing their plans and their role in transition," the spokesman, Brigadier General Carsten Jacobson, told Reuters.
    "This will be carefully orchestrated with the government of Australia," Jacobson said. "This is nothing that is in any way out of what we are all doing."
    U.S. forces number about 90,000 of the 130,000-strong NATO-led force. France has 3,600 troops in Afghanistan and Britain 9,500. Australia has about 1,550.
    "FAIR SHARE"
    Jacobson said 2013 would be decisive for Afghanistan's transition and the aim was for Afghan forces to take over responsibility for security for the entire country by the end of that year.
    Gillard said she expected President Hamid Karzai to make an announcement on the transition in the coming months, and that it would take twelve to eighteen months to complete the pull-out.
    Australia would argue at the Chicago summit for broad and substantial international support in Afghanistan, Gillard said.
    "I will go to Chicago prepared for Australia to pay our fair share. Australia will also be prepared to provide niche training to the Afghan national security forces after 2014," she said.
    More than 10 years after the Taliban government was toppled following the September 11 attacks in 2001, the U.S. administration appears settled on a steady withdrawal of most of its troops by the end of 2014, leaving only a small U.S. force to advise Afghan forces and conduct targeted strikes against militants.
    French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who is facing a difficult re-election campaign, has announced he would pull French troops out of Afghanistan by the end of 2013.
    With 32 Australian soldiers killed and hundreds wounded, the Australian government is under mounting pressure to withdraw troops, and faces an expected election next year which Gillard is forecast to lose.
    (Additional reporting by Jack Kimball in KABUL; Editing by Michael Perry and Robert Birsel)

  • #2
    lol why the hell were they there in the first place?
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    • #3
      racism and anglo-saxon brotherhood twas the reason

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      • #4
        good.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lynx View Post
          racism and anglo-saxon brotherhood twas the reason
          this is actually a very poignant remark
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #6
            i get the whole "we might be in the armpit corner of the world, but we still matter" thing that country has, but they have set the precedent. in 200 years when muslims are "fighting terrorism" in far off lands and aussies want to know why there are nigerians, chechens, afghans, arabs, berbers, and kurds occupying sydney, despite the fact that aussies never did anything to them...we can say hey remember afghanistan a couple centuries ago?
            There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

            Sayyid Qutb

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            • #7
              australia has some defence pact with america and the fact that our prime minister happened to be in the u.s. when 9/11 happened.
              lot of people here asking the same question, about us sticking with the yanks like glue, even when the direction they are taking us is destruction.
              we now have a couple of thousand american military dudes ensconced in the north. they just arrived. who knows for what.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                i get the whole "we might be in the armpit corner of the world, but we still matter" thing that country has, but they have set the precedent. in 200 years when muslims are "fighting terrorism" in far off lands and aussies want to know why there are nigerians, chechens, afghans, arabs, berbers, and kurds occupying sydney, despite the fact that aussies never did anything to them...we can say hey remember afghanistan a couple centuries ago?
                haha..listen to you, you bloody americans. what are your puppets doing in afghanistan?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lynx View Post
                  racism and anglo-saxon brotherhood twas the reason
                  is that why you americns are there, pussycat?

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                  • #10
                    I would hope that world consciousness has evolved 200 years from now to a point that this "you invade our country so now we must invade yours to get back at something your ancestors did ages ago" mentality has been transcended. However, I agree that there should be some forsight into the sentiment of empathy that people should consider the gravity and implications of their actions. including invasion.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #11
                      there is also the fact that afghanistan under the taliban, was said to be housing al quaeda, that is said to have planned attacks on western countries from there. something like that.
                      see, we are loyal friends to you americans. don't you love us?;-)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by faye View Post
                        haha..listen to you, you bloody americans. what are your puppets doing in afghanistan?

                        america has direct interests in afghanistan, no matter how rotten. aussies have no political or military interests in afghanistan except trying to be a player in euro-american imperialist adventures and trying to stay relevant.

                        its like indians who are being proud of fighting under the british banner in ww2 in europe or north africa, its pathetic and their sacrifices are laughable.
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          this is actually a very poignant remark
                          It is unfortunate but true. If the one takes history, they have been responsible for a long list of crimes which is unprecedented, and yet they try to pit other people against each other along racial/religious lines to serve their own interests.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                            america has direct interests in afghanistan, no matter how rotten. aussies have no political or military interests in afghanistan except trying to be a player in euro-american imperialist adventures and trying to stay relevant.

                            its like indians who are being proud of fighting under the british banner in ww2 in europe or north africa, its pathetic and their sacrifices are laughable.
                            tribal, randolph. no matter how rotten.

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                            • #15
                              Furthermore, this Western interference in the Middle East and other parts of Asia has been happening for a long time before any supposed singular event. This is the problem

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