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    DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan — Dozens of French Muslims are training with the Taliban in northwestern Pakistan, raising fears of future attacks following the shooting deaths of seven people in southern France allegedly by a man who spent time in the region, Pakistani intelligence officials said Saturday.

    Authorities are investigating whether Mohamed Merah, the Frenchman of Algerian descent who is suspected of killing three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three French paratroopers in Toulouse this month, was among the training group, the officials said.

    Merah was killed in a dramatic gunfight with police Thursday after a 32-hour standoff at his Toulouse apartment. The 23-year-old former auto body worker traveled twice to Afghanistan in 2010 and to Pakistan in 2011, and said he trained with al-Qaida in the Pakistani militant stronghold of Waziristan.

    Approximately 85 Frenchmen have been training with the Pakistani Taliban in the North Waziristan tribal area for the past three years, according to the intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media. Most of the men have dual nationality with France and North African countries.

    The Frenchmen operate under the name Jihad-e-Islami and are being trained to use explosives and other weapons at camps near the town of Miran Shah and in the Datta Khel area, the officials said. They are led by a French commander who goes by the name Abu Tarek. Five of the men returned to France in January 2011 to find new recruits, according to the officials. It's unclear whether Merah was among that group.

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy promised a crackdown on French citizens found to have trained in terror camps abroad.

    "Anyone who goes abroad to follow ideological courses that lead to terrorism will be criminally punished. The response will be prison," he said in a campaign speech Saturday.

    A senior French official close to the investigation into the shootings told The Associated Press on Friday that despite Merah's claims of al-Qaida links, there was no sign he had "trained or been in contact with organized groups or jihadists."
    A militant commander, Ahmed Marwat, claimed in a phone call with the AP on Saturday that Merah was affiliated with the Pakistani Taliban in Waziristan, but provided no details. Marwat said he was part of the Jundullah wing of the Pakistani Taliban.

    The claim could not be independently verified.
    The Pakistani Taliban, which is closely allied with al-Qaida, has carried out hundreds of attacks in Pakistan over the past several years that have killed thousands of people. Taliban leaders say they want to oust the U.S.-backed government and install a hardline Islamist regime. They also have international jihadi ambitions and trained the Pakistani-American who tried to detonate a car bomb in New York City's Times Square in 2010.
    The main sanctuary for the Pakistani Taliban is the restive tribal region along the Afghan border, especially North and South Waziristan. Despite a large military offensive in South Waziristan in 2009, the government has very little control over the area.
    Western officials have been concerned for years about Muslim militants with European citizenship visiting northwestern Pakistan, possibly training for missions that could include terror attacks in Europe where they would act as "lone wolves" or on the orders of others. In 2010 alone, dozens were believed to be there.
    Merah told police during the standoff that he was trained "by a single person" when he was in Waziristan, not in a training center, so as not to be singled out because he spoke French," the director of the DCRI intelligence service, Bernard Squarcini, told the Le Monde newspaper.
    Merah was questioned by French intelligence officers last November after his second trip to Afghanistan, and was cooperative and provided a USB key with tourist-like photos of his trip, the French official close to the investigation told the AP.
    While he was under surveillance last year, Merah was never seen contacting any radicals and went to nightclubs, not mosques, the official said. People who knew him confirmed that he was at a nightclub in recent weeks.
    Merah told negotiators during the police standoff that he was able to buy a large arsenal of weapons thanks to years of petty theft, the official said.
    French prosecutors said Merah filmed himself carrying out the three shooting attacks in Toulouse that began March 11.
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    Associated Press writers Jamey Keaten, Elaine Ganley and Angela Charlton in Paris and Sarah DiLorenzo in Toulouse contributed to this report.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1377284.html

  • #2
    I have been stressing over this fact for years, that the Arabs and other terrorist supporters are based in Miram Shah, I have seen it with my own eyes, foreigners with weapons patrolling and hanging about there, Pakistan army is stationed there with a large force but remains idle to their presence by purpose.

    Its time for a full fledge clearance of all foreigners and their supporters from Waziristan. Waziristan is no longer a peaceful Pashtun place its a staging ground for terrorists to attack western and other countries and bring too much consequences to the naitves through drone attacks etc etc etc

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    • #3
      how do you know that he self identifies as "Berber" He may in fact well identify himself as Arab.


      It doesn't appear that Soldat Amr is making an assault against all Arabs, but just the extremists who come to Afghanistan and Pakistan region motivating suicide attacks and brutalities against the civilians in the region
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #4
        i thought you and 2010 were also enjoying the pictures and articles about the death of shia iraqis, al-arab.

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        • #5
          well then you really can't say he is either way; you don't know his genetics, furthermore all we have is how he would identify himself and Algeria is considered n Arab country these days, Just as Majority of Iraq are Arabized Mesopotamians. Algerians are Arabized berbers. None the less they're known as Arabs today. We'd have to conclude he is Arab by that account.

          I don't agree with Soldat's views but I understand where he comes from; if you see a bunch of Arabic speaking people telling members of your own culture that the way they practice Islam is wrong because they dance and play music, practice Spirituality and that they should strap bombs to their chest in open markets; then people will naturally associate that with Arabs.

          Soldat's judgement is wrong of course but I can see how people could make that conclusion. The same way Many Arabs think ALL or even MOST Jews are bad because of Israel; ignoring the fact that some of the most vehement Anti Zionists are Jews themselves and that most Jewish people just want to live a regular life. Same we think everyone from America must be war mongering hegemonic imperialist just because the U.S. Military are in Afghanistan

          Soldat is however hypocritical when it comes to Russia; he waves a Green light on Russians even though Russians killed nearly 40 times more Afghans than all the Arab extremists combined.

          So that's where his flaw really is; his hypocrisy, he's right that this extremists who claim to be fighting for Islam but do evil things are bad reflections on us all.
          Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 04-12-2012, 10:49 AM.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #6
            Soldat should never be banned on this account; because banning him means we're afraid of him and can't rebuttal his claims.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by al-arab

              I have nothing more to add in this discussion but he should not lie about Islam and about Arabs from Saudi Arabia and Iraq because otherwise I will confront him which is normal when somebody says something that is not right.
              Actually he's made some pretty derogatory comments about Pashtuns too.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #8
                how do you know iran wants to divide the arab world? i thought it is already divided.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by al-arab
                  The worst with all this is now he has bigger audience who will believe his lies and they will hate Arabs and Islam more because of him.

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                  well rest assured that his arguments are bogus enough that simple logic and fact checking will make them dissipate with ease. That's why he doesn't need to be banned.
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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